What they don't tell you legit steroids

[oldtimer1]

When you take steroids to bodybuild  you realize quickly how effective they are. They can transform a physique really quickly.  Those that dispute this are buying crap on the black market from the trunk of a pusher's car. Legit steroids work amazing.  I defy any gym rat that never used to try one real Anadrol 50 a day and not see a drastic difference in four weeks. Making a point. No I'm not advocating taking drugs.

Having said this we have to talk about the mental aspects of using.  When on you feel confident and aggressive. It has an anti depressant effect and your sense of well being will be apparent. Every drug has both a positive and a negative. The negative is that when you go off you will start to feel meek, nervous and maybe even depressed. Guys know this is coming and try to counter it with low dose steroids. Some even use stuff like clomid and HCG.  The negative problems are further compounded by your own testosterone being shut down. The flood of exogenous hormones causes the pituitary to shut down LH hormone. LH hormone is the hormone that signals your balls to make testosterone. Another problem is that your body can increase estrogen though aromatase.

We all know bodybuilding is a sport based on drug use. Users like to rationalize their own use away by saying all sports use. That's not true but it makes their ego feel better.  The health problems alone should make a rational man pause and say, " Is this really worth it? Is the risk to health for temporary muscles a fair trade?"  We all know guys that go from a zero to a hero through the syringe in 5 weeks then in the same year look like crap.  

Three major problems with steroids is the increased risk of cardio vascular disease, prostate enlargement and damage to tendons due to rapidly increased strength.  One study on testosterone hormone replacement found an increase risk of hearth attacks and strokes. Preliminary scientific speculation was that it was changing the viscosity of the blood making it thicker. Steroids can also increase blood pressure. After that study came out I speculate there were studies disputing it no doubt paid for by the testosterone replacement pharmaceutical companies.  Getting back to prostate enlargement prior to the making of the first anabolic steroid dianabol the Russian Olympic lifters were injecting straight testosterone in doses so high some had to use catheters to pee.   Dianabol was created to get the anabolic effects of testosterone while minimizing the androgen effects.

The reason why I am writing this is put some sense into some of you young guys. Spending 2K on drugs to place 3rd in some two bit contest that will give you a piece of crap on your shelf is foolish. Taking steroids, anti estrogen, GH, insulin, speed, HCG, diuretics  and other stuff is insanity to walk around with temporary muscles to scream to the little boy in your brain that, see, I'm a man. Do what you want. I remember in my early 20's going to a doctor for a throat infection and he looked at me and said you have a lot of muscle. Then he said that's more food for the worms when you die. I was really pissed off that this pencil neck doctor who was a runner insulted me. Now with maturity I think I understand what he was trying to say. If health isn't a consideration then the illusion of health with muscles is a lie.

Train naturally. You won't be able to win 9th place in a Mr. Podunk contest but it will be real. You actually can be in shape year round with some peaks here and there. Maybe when you reach 55 you won't be pulling a wrinkled picture out of your wallet of yourself on stage in your hero days showing someone while they look at your pot belly fat body in front of them. Most of the guys I knew that competed in the early 1980's quit training.  One said that training without the assist is a waste of time. That is sad.  Most quit due to health, finances and even arrest.

 

[kreator]

Exactly. This guy comes to my gym, does some Mickey Mouse exercises and kardio and leaves after 45 mins not even breaking a sweat. He trains like shit while natties are huffing and puffing, doing some heavy shit and end up walking around with 15 inch arms at most yet his physique smokes them. You can literally train like a girl and with legit gear you’ll hold far more muscle than any natty.

[sarcafago]

[Wiggs]

When you take steroids to bodybuild  you realize quickly how effective they are. They can transform a physique really quickly.  Those that dispute this are buying crap on the black market from the trunk of a pushers car. Legit steroids work amazing.  I defy any gym rat that never used to try one real Anadrol 50 a day and not see a drastic difference in four weeks. Making a point. No I'm not advocating taking drugs.

Having said this we have to talk about the mental aspects of using.  When on your feel confident and aggressive. It has an anti depressant effect and your sense of well being will be apparent. Every drug has both a positive and a negative. The negative is that when you go off you will start to feel meek, nervous and maybe even depressed. Guys know this is coming and try to counter it with low dose steroids. Some even use stuff like clomid and HCG.  The negative problems are further compounded by your own testosterone being shut down. The flood of exogenous hormones causes the pituitary to shut down LH hormone. LH hormone is the hormone that signals your balls to make testosterone. Another problem is that your body can increase estrogen though aromatase.

We all know bodybuilding is a sport based on drug use. Users like to rationalize their own use away by saying all sports use. That's not true but it makes their ego feel better.  The health problems alone should make a rational man pause and say, " Is this really worth it? Is the risk to health for temporary muscles a fair trade?"  We all know guys that go from a zero to a hero through the syringe in 5 weeks then in the same year look like crap.  

Two major problems with steroids is the increased risk of cardio vascular disease, prostate enlargement and damage to tendons due to rapidly increased strength.  One study on testosterone hormone replacement found an increase risk of hearth attacks and strokes. Preliminary scientific speculation was that it was changing the viscosity of the blood making it thicker. Steroids can also increase blood pressure. After that study came out I speculate there were studies disputing it no doubt paid for by the testosterone replacement pharmaceutical companies.  Getting back to prostate enlargement prior to the making of the first anabolic steroid dianabol the Russian Olympic lifters were injecting straight testosterone in doses so high some had to use catheters to pee.   Dianabol was created to get the anabolic effects of testosterone while minimizing the androgen effects.

The reason why I am writing this is put some sense into some of you young guys. Spending 2K on drugs to place 3rd in some two bit contest that will give you a piece of crap on your shelf is foolish. Taking steroids, anti estrogen, GH, insulin, speed, HCG, diuretics  and other stuff is insanity to walk around with temporary muscles to scream to the little boy in your brain that, see, I'm a man. Do what you want. I remember in my early 20's going to a doctor for a throat infection and he looked at me and said you have a lot of muscle. Then he said that's more food for the worms when you die. I was really pissed off that this pencil neck doctor who was a runner insulted me. Now with maturity I think I understand what he was trying to say. If health isn't a consideration then the illusion of health with muscles is a lie.

Train naturally. You won't be able to win 9th place in a Mr. Podunk contest but it will be real. You actually can be in shape year round with some peaks here and there. Maybe when you reach 55 you won't be pulling a wrinkled picture out of your wallet of yourself on stage in your hero days showing someone while they look at your pot belly fat body in front of them. Most of the guys I knew that competed in the early 1980's quit training.  One said that training without the assist is a waste of time. That is sad.  Most quit due to health, finances and even arrest.

 

Great post

[IroNat]

Excellent post.

[SF1900]

It’s sad, most people who use steroids are addicted.

They take it for their whole life and can’t get off because they cant look at their body without it being enhanced.

[balzac]

what are your thought about low dose test ( 150-200 mg) per week at 40 years old and upwards ?

[kreator]

It’s sad, most people who use steroids are addicted.

They take it for their whole life and can’t get off because they cant look at their body without it being enhanced.

What a man can not say “NO” to, he becomes a slave to it

[MAXX]

Yes you grow a mental depencancy on them as I understand. Not only for the size but like you said the change in confidence and well being feel. Steroids are very much addictive is my observation. My problem is the negative health aspects. Plus it doesn't seem to enhance your intelligence, it's the other way around, at a certain treshhold higher test seems to make you dumber. That would be my biggest concern, the mental effect.

[joswift]

Yes you grow a mental depencancy on them as I understand. Not only for the size but like you said the change in confidence and well being feel. Steroids are very much addictive is my observation. My problem is the negative health aspects. Plus it doesn't seem to enhance your intelligence, it's the other way around, at a certain treshhold higher test seems to make you dumber. That would be my biggest concern, the mental effect.

Christian Bale was quote as saying "the bigger my muscles got the more stupid I became" when getting ready for his first Batman

[dexitrim]

When you take steroids to bodybuild  you realize quickly how effective they are. They can transform a physique really quickly.  Those that dispute this are buying crap on the black market from the trunk of a pushers car. Legit steroids work amazing.  I defy any gym rat that never used to try one real Anadrol 50 a day and not see a drastic difference in four weeks. Making a point. No I'm not advocating taking drugs.

Having said this we have to talk about the mental aspects of using.  When on your feel confident and aggressive. It has an anti depressant effect and your sense of well being will be apparent. Every drug has both a positive and a negative. The negative is that when you go off you will start to feel meek, nervous and maybe even depressed. Guys know this is coming and try to counter it with low dose steroids. Some even use stuff like clomid and HCG.  The negative problems are further compounded by your own testosterone being shut down. The flood of exogenous hormones causes the pituitary to shut down LH hormone. LH hormone is the hormone that signals your balls to make testosterone. Another problem is that your body can increase estrogen though aromatase.

We all know bodybuilding is a sport based on drug use. Users like to rationalize their own use away by saying all sports use. That's not true but it makes their ego feel better.  The health problems alone should make a rational man pause and say, " Is this really worth it? Is the risk to health for temporary muscles a fair trade?"  We all know guys that go from a zero to a hero through the syringe in 5 weeks then in the same year look like crap.  

Two major problems with steroids is the increased risk of cardio vascular disease, prostate enlargement and damage to tendons due to rapidly increased strength.  One study on testosterone hormone replacement found an increase risk of hearth attacks and strokes. Preliminary scientific speculation was that it was changing the viscosity of the blood making it thicker. Steroids can also increase blood pressure. After that study came out I speculate there were studies disputing it no doubt paid for by the testosterone replacement pharmaceutical companies.  Getting back to prostate enlargement prior to the making of the first anabolic steroid dianabol the Russian Olympic lifters were injecting straight testosterone in doses so high some had to use catheters to pee.   Dianabol was created to get the anabolic effects of testosterone while minimizing the androgen effects.

The reason why I am writing this is put some sense into some of you young guys. Spending 2K on drugs to place 3rd in some two bit contest that will give you a piece of crap on your shelf is foolish. Taking steroids, anti estrogen, GH, insulin, speed, HCG, diuretics  and other stuff is insanity to walk around with temporary muscles to scream to the little boy in your brain that, see, I'm a man. Do what you want. I remember in my early 20's going to a doctor for a throat infection and he looked at me and said you have a lot of muscle. Then he said that's more food for the worms when you die. I was really pissed off that this pencil neck doctor who was a runner insulted me. Now with maturity I think I understand what he was trying to say. If health isn't a consideration then the illusion of health with muscles is a lie.

Train naturally. You won't be able to win 9th place in a Mr. Podunk contest but it will be real. You actually can be in shape year round with some peaks here and there. Maybe when you reach 55 you won't be pulling a wrinkled picture out of your wallet of yourself on stage in your hero days showing someone while they look at your pot belly fat body in front of them. Most of the guys I knew that competed in the early 1980's quit training.  One said that training without the assist is a waste of time. That is sad.  Most quit due to health, finances and even arrest.

 

This entire post should be hanging on the wall inside every LA Fitness men's locker room.

I have a close, personal friend who's been running gear for the last 32 years.  He's 52yo.  Even though his BP is always normal, and his blood work comes back looking fairly good, I'm really afraid he's not going to live past his 80's if he continues this self-destructive path.  I'm going to to show this to him, and see if I can get him to come off before it's too late.

[Dokey111]

This entire post should be hanging on the wall inside every LA Fitness men's locker room.

I have a close, personal friend who's been running gear for the last 32 years.  He's 52yo.  Even though his BP is always normal, and his blood work comes back looking fairly good, I'm really afraid he's not going to live past his 80's if he continues this self-destructive path.  I'm going to to show this to him, and see if I can get him to come off before it's too late.

 

[Purge_WTF]

 Once again...

 

[oldtimer1]

This entire post should be hanging on the wall inside every LA Fitness men's locker room.

I have a close, personal friend who's been running gear for the last 32 years.  He's 52yo.  Even though his BP is always normal, and his blood work comes back looking fairly good, I'm really afraid he's not going to live past his 80's if he continues this self-destructive path.  I'm going to to show this to him, and see if I can get him to come off before it's too late.

Blood work isn't everything. How about stuff like resting heart rate and how quick your heart rate comes down after exertion?  The heart is one muscle no bodybuilder cares about. Casey Viator told me all his blood work came back great. A few short years after our correspondence he was dead of a heart attack.

Will all users have problems? I will answer no. It's like the smoker that rationalizes using  his uncle who smoked till he died at 83 as an example how the threat to health is over blown. Is it a risk to health? Damn straight it is.

[Tennisballz]

When you take steroids to bodybuild  you realize quickly how effective they are. They can transform a physique really quickly.  Those that dispute this are buying crap on the black market from the trunk of a pusher's car. Legit steroids work amazing.  I defy any gym rat that never used to try one real Anadrol 50 a day and not see a drastic difference in four weeks. Making a point. No I'm not advocating taking drugs.

Having said this we have to talk about the mental aspects of using.  When on your feel confident and aggressive. It has an anti depressant effect and your sense of well being will be apparent. Every drug has both a positive and a negative. The negative is that when you go off you will start to feel meek, nervous and maybe even depressed. Guys know this is coming and try to counter it with low dose steroids. Some even use stuff like clomid and HCG.  The negative problems are further compounded by your own testosterone being shut down. The flood of exogenous hormones causes the pituitary to shut down LH hormone. LH hormone is the hormone that signals your balls to make testosterone. Another problem is that your body can increase estrogen though aromatase.

We all know bodybuilding is a sport based on drug use. Users like to rationalize their own use away by saying all sports use. That's not true but it makes their ego feel better.  The health problems alone should make a rational man pause and say, " Is this really worth it? Is the risk to health for temporary muscles a fair trade?"  We all know guys that go from a zero to a hero through the syringe in 5 weeks then in the same year look like crap.  

Three major problems with steroids is the increased risk of cardio vascular disease, prostate enlargement and damage to tendons due to rapidly increased strength.  One study on testosterone hormone replacement found an increase risk of hearth attacks and strokes. Preliminary scientific speculation was that it was changing the viscosity of the blood making it thicker. Steroids can also increase blood pressure. After that study came out I speculate there were studies disputing it no doubt paid for by the testosterone replacement pharmaceutical companies.  Getting back to prostate enlargement prior to the making of the first anabolic steroid dianabol the Russian Olympic lifters were injecting straight testosterone in doses so high some had to use catheters to pee.   Dianabol was created to get the anabolic effects of testosterone while minimizing the androgen effects.

The reason why I am writing this is put some sense into some of you young guys. Spending 2K on drugs to place 3rd in some two bit contest that will give you a piece of crap on your shelf is foolish. Taking steroids, anti estrogen, GH, insulin, speed, HCG, diuretics  and other stuff is insanity to walk around with temporary muscles to scream to the little boy in your brain that, see, I'm a man. Do what you want. I remember in my early 20's going to a doctor for a throat infection and he looked at me and said you have a lot of muscle. Then he said that's more food for the worms when you die. I was really pissed off that this pencil neck doctor who was a runner insulted me. Now with maturity I think I understand what he was trying to say. If health isn't a consideration then the illusion of health with muscles is a lie.

Train naturally. You won't be able to win 9th place in a Mr. Podunk contest but it will be real. You actually can be in shape year round with some peaks here and there. Maybe when you reach 55 you won't be pulling a wrinkled picture out of your wallet of yourself on stage in your hero days showing someone while they look at your pot belly fat body in front of them. Most of the guys I knew that competed in the early 1980's quit training.  One said that training without the assist is a waste of time. That is sad.  Most quit due to health, finances and even arrest.

 

Great line.  Couldn't have said it better myself!

[Marvin Martian]

Christian Bale was quote as saying "the bigger my muscles got the more stupid I became" when getting ready for his first Batman

That’s a moronic statement.

[IroNat]

Once again...

 

Romano looks very average.

Needs to up the dose.

So does the old guy.

Why are these guys even bothering?

[The Keto Kid]

Theres use and abuse.  I have to say starting trt has been one of the best "health" decisions I've made in my life. The quality of my life has dramatically improved.  Better recovery,  fuller/rounder muscles (specifically delts), more energy,  more agression in the gym, increased libido (I feel like a 22 year old), overall just more zest for life. This winter I added 100mg deca for 10 weeks and this summer I added 100mg of Anavar for 10 weeks, all prescribed all monitored by a doctor.  I feel amazing! Oh and 10mg edible marijuana before bed. This health/longevity cycle I will stay on for life. I'm not chasing a $5 trophy I'm chasing living my best possible life.

[IroNat]

Theres use and abuse.  I have to say starting trt has been one of the best "health" decisions I've made in my life. The quality of my life has dramatically improved.  Better recovery,  fuller/rounder muscles (specifically delts), more energy,  more agression in the gym, increased libido (I feel like a 22 year old), overall just more zest for life. This winter I added 100mg deca for 10 weeks and this summer I added 100mg of Anavar for 10 weeks, all prescribed all monitored by a doctor.  I feel amazing! Oh and 10mg edible marijuana before bed. This health/longevity cycle I will stay on for life. I'm not chasing a $5 trophy I'm chasing living my best possible life.

What's Anbar?

Isn't it a province in Iraq?

[Powerlift66]

what are your thought about low dose test ( 150-200 mg) per week at 40 years old and upwards ?

If needed, and monitored and healthy, I doubt there are many issues w/ it. The TRT studies that say "bad for heart" are done on older gen-pop, out of shape, unhealthy fat guys.
100-125 mg is more like TRT (rather than 200). Get bloods run, get cardiac calcium scoring done (arterial plaque x-rays), eat right, do your cardio, keep your test in "high normal" range, etc.

I think it was Joe or Shizzo who told me to "keep doing your steroids". Like I'm a druggie doing prescribed TRT. (It's like calling a 1 drink a week person an alcoholic).
I trained for 38 years natty before getting on TRT at age 50, gained zero weight, gained zero strength on it. (TRT). So just do your home-work, if youa re low and feeling like shite, go see a Dr. who's knowledgeable in TRT.

Got my cardiac calcium scan done last week, waiting for results now... I think the misfit Andrew Collura said he just scored in the 600's. (Decades of d-bol use). Not good...

Zero: No plaque. Your risk of heart attack is low.
1 - 10: Small amount of plaque. You have less than a 10 percent chance of having heart disease, and your risk of heart attack is low.
11-100: Some plaque. You have mild heart disease and a moderate chance of heart attack. Your doctor may recommend other treatment in addition to lifestyle changes.
101 - 400: Moderate amount of plaque. You have heart disease and plaque may be blocking an artery. Your chance of having a heart attack is moderate to high. Your health professional may want more tests and may start treatment.
Over 400: Large amount of plaque. You have more than a 90 percent chance that plaque is blocking one of your arteries. Your chance of heart attack is high. Your health professional will want more tests and will start treatment.

[The Keto Kid]

What's Anbar?

Isn't it a province in Iraq?

Anavar.

[tommywishbone]

That’s a moronic statement.

Thank you.

But an important "actor" said it, so it must have some merit.   

[joswift]

That’s a moronic statement.

I know, he said it when he was bulked

[Purge_WTF]

Romano looks very average.

Needs to up the dose.

So does the old guy.

Why are these guys even bothering?

 Bob was in his 70's when that aired. How many guys look that good at that age?

[Earl1972]

When you take steroids to bodybuild  you realize quickly how effective they are. They can transform a physique really quickly.  Those that dispute this are buying crap on the black market from the trunk of a pusher's car. Legit steroids work amazing.  I defy any gym rat that never used to try one real Anadrol 50 a day and not see a drastic difference in four weeks. Making a point. No I'm not advocating taking drugs.

Having said this we have to talk about the mental aspects of using.  When on you feel confident and aggressive. It has an anti depressant effect and your sense of well being will be apparent. Every drug has both a positive and a negative. The negative is that when you go off you will start to feel meek, nervous and maybe even depressed. Guys know this is coming and try to counter it with low dose steroids. Some even use stuff like clomid and HCG.  The negative problems are further compounded by your own testosterone being shut down. The flood of exogenous hormones causes the pituitary to shut down LH hormone. LH hormone is the hormone that signals your balls to make testosterone. Another problem is that your body can increase estrogen though aromatase.

We all know bodybuilding is a sport based on drug use. Users like to rationalize their own use away by saying all sports use. That's not true but it makes their ego feel better.  The health problems alone should make a rational man pause and say, " Is this really worth it? Is the risk to health for temporary muscles a fair trade?"  We all know guys that go from a zero to a hero through the syringe in 5 weeks then in the same year look like crap.  

Three major problems with steroids is the increased risk of cardio vascular disease, prostate enlargement and damage to tendons due to rapidly increased strength.  One study on testosterone hormone replacement found an increase risk of hearth attacks and strokes. Preliminary scientific speculation was that it was changing the viscosity of the blood making it thicker. Steroids can also increase blood pressure. After that study came out I speculate there were studies disputing it no doubt paid for by the testosterone replacement pharmaceutical companies.  Getting back to prostate enlargement prior to the making of the first anabolic steroid dianabol the Russian Olympic lifters were injecting straight testosterone in doses so high some had to use catheters to pee.   Dianabol was created to get the anabolic effects of testosterone while minimizing the androgen effects.

The reason why I am writing this is put some sense into some of you young guys. Spending 2K on drugs to place 3rd in some two bit contest that will give you a piece of crap on your shelf is foolish. Taking steroids, anti estrogen, GH, insulin, speed, HCG, diuretics  and other stuff is insanity to walk around with temporary muscles to scream to the little boy in your brain that, see, I'm a man. Do what you want. I remember in my early 20's going to a doctor for a throat infection and he looked at me and said you have a lot of muscle. Then he said that's more food for the worms when you die. I was really pissed off that this pencil neck doctor who was a runner insulted me. Now with maturity I think I understand what he was trying to say. If health isn't a consideration then the illusion of health with muscles is a lie.

Train naturally. You won't be able to win 9th place in a Mr. Podunk contest but it will be real. You actually can be in shape year round with some peaks here and there. Maybe when you reach 55 you won't be pulling a wrinkled picture out of your wallet of yourself on stage in your hero days showing someone while they look at your pot belly fat body in front of them. Most of the guys I knew that competed in the early 1980's quit training.  One said that training without the assist is a waste of time. That is sad.  Most quit due to health, finances and even arrest.

 

you've been saying this for at least 10 years now

did you ever use?

E