Good reddit post on this
"For everyone else looking for the actual videos and more information, here are the three videos released as well as detailed information. This is all that's got released. [The dates of the events have been disclosed officially](
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/u-s-navy-releases-dates-of-three-officially-acknowledged-encounters-with-phenomena/).
* **[FLIR1](
)**, filmed in 14 November 2004, showing a white tic tac shaped UFO with no wings and no exhaust encountered by the Nimitz crew, which is able to avoid tracking as it speeds out to the left. This is not very impressive on video, but apparently it's very impressive technically considering the tracking gear. The other apparent movements throughout the video are due to movements in the lens assembly (zoom adjustments).
* This object had visual confirmation by the crew and pilots who engaged with it. The documentary [The Nimitz Encounters](
) features interviews and first-hand accounts from those involved. [Here's another video of Dave Fravor](
) explaining in detail what he observed with his own eyes. Note that there's also accounts of something the size of a 747 disturbing the water.
* Some more accounts:
* [Kevin Day, USS Nimitz Senior Chief Operations Specialist and Witness to 2004 Tic Tac Events](
)
* [Jason Turner—Witness to F-18 Tic Tac FLIR Video in 2004 While Aboard the USS Princeton
](
)
* [PJ Hughes—Witness to Confiscation of E-2 Hawkeye Electronic Tic Tac Data from USS Nimitz 2004](
)
* (Note: Dave has distanced himself from these guys due to some wackier claims, but they have been confirmed to be present, and at the claimed capacities.)
* **[Gimbal](
)** and **[Go Fast](
)**, both filmed in 21 January 2015 by the same crew (but different from the 2004 case), and so presumably part of the same event.
* "Gimbal" shows the plane tracking some object (according to the audio, part of a fleet) which appears to "rotate". However, the video shows what is consistent with an infrared flare (from say, an exhaust plume) rotating as the Raytheon FLIR pod lens assembly rotates to track the object. This is a well-known phenomenon. The "aura" seen around is also due to sharpening filters applied to infrared imagery. It's conceivable that the remarks heard are in reference to the FLIR image, not direct visual by the pilots, so this event is murkier. The recent History Channel documentary "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation" features an interview with one of the people involved in this video, where he confirms he had visuals on the object, and that it was saucer shaped and it actually rotated.
* "Go Fast" shows a tracking of a fast moving object. Some people have claimed this is a balloon and the apparent movement is due to parallax. This is not entirely inconsistent with what is seen, but it's incompatible with first-hand accounts by those involved, and doesn't make sense. These people and their equipment can distinguish a static object from a moving object: this is crucial information here.
So there are two separate events with very different backstories. These videos and events should not be lumped into the same thing and a lot of confusion is happening because of this.
By far, the Nimitz case has the most background and first-hand accounts to it, even though the video seems underwhelming. Dismissing the Nimitz case as a simple "drone" is ignoring the circumstances of the video, what it is showing and accounts of many people who have gone on record about it. Nobody who has gone on record about it seems to think this is our technology, simply because of how baffling it all seems.
We're talking about a *white, smooth, windowless, wingless, tic-tac shaped object the size of a fighter jet which can accelerate instantly, can go up down and hover at will, and moves erratically and at hypersonic speeds*, easily outmaneuvering the most advanced jets in the most advanced military in existence. And this was seen by highly trained and qualified Navy personnel with their own eyes, tracked by radar, etc.
It's important to emphasize this. This is not just a mere advanced engineering feat we can conceivably imagine. It's something our current understanding of physics and aerodynamics says its *impossible* to achieve. This type of scientific breakthrough requires an international open research community, because you cannot pre-select and fully control the minds and resources you'll require to tackle the problem. You need the best mathematicians, physicists and engineers in the world under total and absolute control. It's not something an unlimited budget can address, and not even the Manhattan Project worked like this: the MP expanded upon known physics at the time with public scientific figures in the field. This would be many thousands of times more difficult to achieve than the Manhattan Project.
So please, get the three stories separated and don't dismiss this shit so easily. There's much more happening here and you cannot simultaneously invoke military ultra-incompetence and godlike competence to quickly dismiss these as secret drones with physics beyond our public understanding, being experienced by incompetent military personnel."
