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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2019, 09:43:12 AM »
How about those MFers just go straight to the NFL out of high school and try and make the cut?  They do it in the NBA and MLB.

When they go to an nfl camp and get their asses handed to them along with losing their eligibility, let us see them crying about their likeness on a badge at Costco or Target. 



Can you name one high schooler that has made it to the NFL? LOL!

The NFL has a rule that a person must be 3 years removed from his graduating class before he can be eligible to play in the league.


This new law is fair. Elite players are being paid, and have been, under the table. Make everything on the up and up. The NCAA has been making money long enough. These kids are going to get a cut of jersey and other memorabilia sales. That is fair.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2019, 09:45:01 AM »
How does sport improve our lives? I mean how does watching other people play sports improve the society? Being paid to play sports is one of the saddest things

Agreed; watching men in glitter thongs shave, tan, oil up, and pose for a room full of screaming men is much more respectable.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2019, 09:45:41 AM »
Allowing them to earn money is a good thing and the way this is supposed to be instituted is beyond reasonably measured. Sports programs are the lifeblood of the majority of US colleges. There's nothing ethical about keeping the athletes from earning money. Why are the coached allowed to make multi-million dollar contracts? Why are the schools allowed to profit in the 10s to hundreds of millions?

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2019, 09:47:42 AM »
How about those MFers just go straight to the NFL out of high school and try and make the cut?  They do it in the NBA and MLB.

When they go to an nfl camp and get their asses handed to them along with losing their eligibility, let us see them crying about their likeness on a badge at Costco or Target. 


True but that has nothing to do with them getting paid or not getting paid in college .. and a lot of guys drafted straight out of school into the pros is rare, and the coaches will train and work with them in order to bring them up to speed and they are making bank while they are their and if they get cut in a year or two someone will pick them up
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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2019, 09:59:06 AM »
How about those MFers just go straight to the NFL out of high school and try and make the cut?  They do it in the NBA and MLB.

When they go to an nfl camp and get their asses handed to them along with losing their eligibility, let us see them crying about their likeness on a badge at Costco or Target. 



No one nowadays that I’ve heard of goes straight to the NFL. Maybe back in the 30’s

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2019, 10:32:04 AM »
No one nowadays that I’ve heard of goes straight to the NFL. Maybe back in the 30’s

The only difference between a gold medalist boxer going to Emanuel Steward (you don't tell manny to pay you to become the next lennox or vlad) or a 5-star athlete going to a powerhouse university (the univ is preparing you for the nfl if you have the goods) is a promoter, so let the boosters pay the fools.  If they aren't on the campus to learn something, then give them an 18 yr old pass and see if they can make it in the nfl out of high school. i played 8 yrs from joe brown - st aug in Louisiana so i have crossed paths with the honey badgers, fournettes of the world.        

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2019, 10:43:58 AM »
The only difference between a gold medalist boxer going to Emanuel Steward (you don't tell manny to pay you to become the next lennox or vlad) or a 5-star athlete going to a powerhouse university (the univ is preparing you for the nfl if you have the goods) is a promoter, so let the boosters pay the fools.  If they aren't on the campus to learn something, then give them an 18 yr old pass and see if they can make it in the nfl out of high school. i played 8 yrs from joe brown - st aug in Louisiana so i have crossed paths with the honey badgers, fournettes of the world.        

G you're still in your 20's after all these years?

That's great bro!

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2019, 10:56:48 AM »
G you're still in your 20's after all these years?

That's great bro!

Kordell Stewart was an SR @ John Ehret when I was on 8th grade JV St Aug. I hope this helps.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2019, 11:07:43 AM »
Scenario #1 - Guess they know the boomer boosters will be dying off and later generations aren't going to have the stroke to fund this stuff sideways.

Scenario #2 - Pay them to ward off eternal CTE lawsuits.


A majority of these players graduate with a degree(around 70-75% surprisingly...only 5% go pro) so I wonder about the demographic of the 20% of players are that don't get a degree and don't go pro? That's who this caters to IMO.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2019, 11:33:46 AM »
None of this matters anyway because the NCAA is not going to allow California universities to do this while still being part of the NCAA.  Teams across the country are already backing down from scheduling USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, etc for fear they will be punished.  The networks aren't going to favor a handful of Pac 12 teams over Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, etc if it means they loose the t.v. contract with the NCAA.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2019, 11:53:06 AM »
The only difference between a gold medalist boxer going to Emanuel Steward (you don't tell manny to pay you to become the next lennox or vlad) or a 5-star athlete going to a powerhouse university (the univ is preparing you for the nfl if you have the goods) is a promoter, so let the boosters pay the fools.  If they aren't on the campus to learn something, then give them an 18 yr old pass and see if they can make it in the nfl out of high school. i played 8 yrs from joe brown - st aug in Louisiana so i have crossed paths with the honey badgers, fournettes of the world.        

Regardless, the NCAA and especially the NFL won’t allow even a walk on out of HS for at the very least, safety sake. The youngest one that I can recall going into the NFL is JuJu Smith at 19 coming out of USC. He did, however come from a football powerhouse at Long Beach Poly. They prepared him for college and USC is a great program for preparing for the NFL. But straight out of HS is a no way.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2019, 11:55:16 AM »

You don’t watch bodybuilding competitions?

Read your comment in this thread...


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=656501.0

How does looking at a couple of pics translate into watching BB shows? I’ve been to a couple of shows in the past amd have watched a couple of Olympias and Arnolds ... in the PAST. Couldn’t care less about watching any sports, even soccer which i used to watch religiously but i refuse to watch and promote some low IQ dummies chase after a ball and get paid millions. Good for them but I’ve decided not to support this. Simple as that. To each their own. HTH.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2019, 12:14:55 PM »
As long as they take a class in financial planning before they get a check.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2019, 01:36:41 PM »
As long as they take a class in financial planning before they get a check.
True, over 70% of NFL players file bankruptcy within 2 years after retirement.  Adrian Peterson made 99 million and is 5 million in debt so he has to keep playing past his prime.  There is no amount of money that can fix stupid.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2019, 05:39:22 PM »
They’ve already been getting paid under the table by boosters for decades. I guess living rent-free, tuition-free, and free clothes doesn’t cut it for the ‘brews, so they’re finally “paying” them. Oh brother!

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2019, 06:05:12 PM »
I fell like they have a good deal already.  As a father of a daughter who went to college on a full ride for basketball, I think this is not right.  My daughter got a free education, room and board, and got to travel all over with the team on the schools budget.  I know the boys get fed a lot better than the girls and get a lot more nice gear.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2019, 02:43:06 AM »
They’ve already been getting paid under the table by boosters for decades. I guess living rent-free, tuition-free, and free clothes doesn’t cut it for the ‘brews, so they’re finally “paying” them. Oh brother!
Yeah, everybody is bitching about the cost of a university education and these clowns get free everything and they still complain.  If they don't like the sweet deal they are getting have them go to work in the real world like everyone else making $10 an hour.  That one NCAA commercial says college athletes have a higher graduation rate than non college athletes.  Of course they do, they get free everything plus have tutors to push, pull and drag them to the finish line.  They don't know how lucky they are but yet they complain about not making millions in college. ::)

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2019, 03:53:21 AM »
Yeah, everybody is bitching about the cost of a university education and these clowns get free everything and they still complain.  If they don't like the sweet deal they are getting have them go to work in the real world like everyone else making $10 an hour.  That one NCAA commercial says college athletes have a higher graduation rate than non college athletes.  Of course they do, they get free everything plus have tutors to push, pull and drag them to the finish line.  They don't know how lucky they are but yet they complain about not making millions in college. ::)

Exactly! Student debt is such a hot topic recently but for some reason when it’s mentioned in the paid college athlete debate, it doesn’t seem that important to the people in favor of paying the athletes.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2019, 04:30:32 AM »
I'm all for separate companies paying the athletes to use their likeness.  These guys can't even make money off of signing a jersey until they leave the school.  EASports pays the University but not the player but we all know who number 15 for the florida gators is that's left handed, 6'3" 245 and unstoppable at the goal line.  

Now the Universities paying them on top of a scholarship is another story.  Thanks to Title 9 there are an equal amount of male and female athletes.  When you think of college athletes getting paid, you think of football players.  What about the girls swimming program or girls tennis?  What do you think it costs to recruit these girls?  What do you think it costs to coach these girls?  What do you think it costs to have an event?  Have you been to one of these events?  Who besides the family is there?  Most other programs besides football lose money.  If the justification is that money is made off of the athlete so the university should pay up, what about the money that it costs the program?  Then do you do away with just the programs that turn a profit?  I'm not sure what college athletics is supposed to be about but do away with all but 3 female basketball programs in the nation and I'm sure we'd get many people with compelling arguments of what it isn't.
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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2019, 10:31:49 AM »
I'm all for separate companies paying the athletes to use their likeness.  These guys can't even make money off of signing a jersey until they leave the school.  EASports pays the University but not the player but we all know who number 15 for the florida gators is that's left handed, 6'3" 245 and unstoppable at the goal line.  

Now the Universities paying them on top of a scholarship is another story.  Thanks to Title 9 there are an equal amount of male and female athletes.  When you think of college athletes getting paid, you think of football players.  What about the girls swimming program or girls tennis?  What do you think it costs to recruit these girls?  What do you think it costs to coach these girls?  What do you think it costs to have an event?  Have you been to one of these events?  Who besides the family is there?  Most other programs besides football lose money.  If the justification is that money is made off of the athlete so the university should pay up, what about the money that it costs the program?  Then do you do away with just the programs that turn a profit?  I'm not sure what college athletics is supposed to be about but do away with all but 3 female basketball programs in the nation and I'm sure we'd get many people with compelling arguments of what it isn't.
That's a good point about only football making money.  Once they start paying football and male basketball players you can bet a title 9 suit will become involved insisting the girls get paid as well even though their sports lose money hand over fist.

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2019, 05:51:26 AM »
Let the pro teams pay them. After all college sports is basically a minor league for the pro teams

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Re: NCAA to pay College Athletes
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2019, 10:35:42 AM »
Let the pro teams pay them. After all college sports is basically a minor league for the pro teams
But no one knows who will make it in the pros beforehand.  Fortune 500 companies don't pay for college business majors and future scientists for research and development while they are still students in college.  College is to train those students so they can get those jobs in the future and college athletics already does that.