Is low-volume training correlated with mental instability?

[BBSSchlemiel]

It is clear to me that science has neglected or avoided doing research on very large muscles. I believe Arthur Jones was mistaken about intensity. It is a factor in hypertrophy but not a sufficient one. There are thresholds re intensity that are sufficient to make gains. Arthur was also mistaken about how muscles contract. The sliding filament theory is more accurate than box cars on a track.

The missing factor in hypertrophy is volume. If we reduce the factors to the minimum we find that one must stimulate a muscle with a certain amount of mechanical tension for a certain amount of time. In practice this is best achieved, and safely, by doing many, many sets with a significant resistance. Large muscles are capable of repetitive efforts of medium reps with significant resistance. That is what we find in practice if we look at how the pros train. You don't have to go to the absolute limit in each set because more sets will get the job done....namely, more mechanical tension of a sufficient amount.

Yeah...but like... I’m talking about their mental dispositions.

[Vince B]

Yeah...but like... I’m talking about their mental dispositions.

Good luck!

[pellius]

Mike Mentzer conceded that 100% intensity may not be required to stimulate muscle hypertrophy. Maybe 85%, 90%... is sufficient. But how do you measure it? How do you know you are at 85% or 95% intensity? One can only reasonably and somewhat accurately (motivation, force of will, being driven, cognitive effort, are also variables that affect performance) measure only two states of intensity: 0% intensity and 100% intensity.

[m8]

Both dead, 3 days later

[Humble Narcissist]

Both dead, 3 days later

And they looked like shit for decades before their deaths.

[ponal]

Training 1x a year for big gainz. You See the secret is plenty of recovery

[Humble Narcissist]

Training 1x a year for big gainz. You See the secret is plenty of recovery

Peter Sisco and John Little created Static Contraction Training in the 90's where they had you just doing isometric holds for 60 seconds per exercise.  They advocated taking more and more time off as you got stronger.  Eventually you were taking months off between workouts 

BTW, Sisco and Little both looked like total shit while promoting this scam and the "science" behind it.  They even had Tony Robbins promoting this to his customers as the maximum strength training program.

[ponal]

Peter Sisco and John Little created Static Contraction Training in the 90's where they had you just doing isometric holds for 60 seconds per exercise.  They advocated taking more and more time off as you got stronger.  Eventually you were taking months off between workouts 

BTW, Sisco and Little both looked like total shit while promoting this scam and the "science" behind it.  They even had Tony Robbins promoting this to his customers as the maximum strength training program.

People will believe any shit.

[Humble Narcissist]

People will believe any shit.

I did for a couple months.

[ponal]

I did for a couple months.

It's like routines of the Champs how many Kids believe their shit?

[Humble Narcissist]

It's like routines of the Champs how many Kids believe their shit?

Not as many as before the internet.  The internet with the ability to reach anyone has crushed so many industries like bodybuilding, religion, etc.

[a_pupil]

I did for a couple months.

I kind of miss the innocent days when I used to fall for these overhyped training programmes and supplements.

I remember as a kid believing this shit like "secret routine/supplement of the bulgarian powerlifting team", "soviet secret finally discovered" 

[Humble Narcissist]

I kind of miss the innocent days when I used to fall for these overhyped training programmes and supplements.

I remember as a kid believing this shit like "secret routine/supplement of the bulgarian powerlifting team", "soviet secret finally discovered"  

Me too.  I think I bought them all.  Some had some decent info but most were trash.  They all left out the real secret ingredient (steroids).

[_bruce_]

Both dead, 3 days later

Only watch if you want to die.
I remember watching it with a buddy of mine years ago and we couldn't stop laughing at how Ray Mentzer came across... tragic.

[IroNat]

Mike thought he was better than Arnold.

[tres_taco_combo]

did any of the late 1990s 2000s guys use these principles?

we know Mentzer and we know Dorian did... but any 1990s guys?

[Humble Narcissist]

did any of the late 1990s 2000s guys use these principles?

we know Mentzer and we know Dorian did... but any 1990s guys?

Aaron Baker and David Dearth did for a while in the 90's.  It was all the rage for a short while after Dorian hit the scene.  It gave Mentzer a big boost to his business I'm sure.

[a_pupil]

Aaron Baker and David Dearth did for a while in the 90's.  It was all the rage for a short while after Dorian hit the scene.  It gave Mentzer a big boost to his business I'm sure.

It'd be interesting to know how much they were making from their HIT advices, as they seemed to be living shitty quality lives at the end.

[Humble Narcissist]

It'd be interesting to know how much they were making from their HIT advices, as they seemed to be living shitty quality lives at the end.

I don't know if they ever trained others I just saw them advocating HIT in some magazine articles.  I doubt they kept up with it long.  They fell apart anyway regardless.

[tres_taco_combo]

bad self esteem and meth did the Mentzers in

[Humble Narcissist]

bad self esteem and meth did the Mentzers in

And alcohol and cigarettes and bad diet and..........

[Titus Pullo]

Haha, any pictures of this Nobel prize beast who tell men of muscle how to train because I bet you he a pencil neck pumpkin head who look like he never pick a weight or see the inside of a gymnasium in his life.

Am I right?

Don't be stupid.  Attack the idea, not the man. 

[tres_taco_combo]

I will say... a low volume Giant set feels amazing when you are done. so pumped up and fired up.

[JuicedKangaroo]

Mike Mentzer conceded that 100% intensity may not be required to stimulate muscle hypertrophy. Maybe 85%, 90%... is sufficient. But how do you measure it? How do you know you are at 85% or 95% intensity? One can only reasonably and somewhat accurately (motivation, force of will, being driven, cognitive effort, are also variables that affect performance) measure only two states of intensity: 0% intensity and 100% intensity.

Intensity can be measured as a percentage of 1RM load. From memory, somewhere between 70% and 90% is optimal intensity for hypertrophy focused training.

[_bruce_]

Intensity can be measured as a percentage of 1RM load. From memory, somewhere between 70% and 90% is optimal intensity for hypertrophy focused training.

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