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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2019, 10:51:12 AM »
3.5 hours? WTF. I'll watch in a couple of installments I guess.
Much too long to sit down and watch in one sitting.

Yes, "Ghey Bob DiQueero" is quite the turd, but I would never see a movie or TV show again if all whiny libtard actors are boycotted.
He's fine playing someone else, when he's himself, that's when it unwatchable.

Di Nero's father was a bender (toe toucher, Ned Beatty, wide receiver, etc) wonder if that screwed with his mental stability a bit.
Might be a closet "naked leap frog contender" himself?  ???

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2019, 12:12:29 PM »
https://www.the123movies.gdn/the-irishman-2019/

You'll enjoy every bit of the 3:30.  :)

Great actors but this movie is sooooo BORING, I turned it off half way thru.

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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2019, 12:56:04 PM »
 BB. JOSwift ...Based on my recall after reading the book ... Chuck O'Brian drove the car with Sheeran and Hoffa in the back seat with another guy seated in the front passenger seat (whose name I have forgotten) after picking up Hoffa at the restaurant parking lot (30 minutes late) thinking that he (O'Brian) was dropping Hoffa and Sheeran at the house for a meeting ... upon which O'Brian and the other guy drove off leaving Hoffa and Sheeran to enter the empty house.

And as shown in the movie Hoffa entered the front door first with Sheeran diretly behind him ... and seeing that the house was empty, HOFFA  turned swiftly to go back outside .... but was immediately shot in his head behind his right ear and fell dead immediately.

THe movie shows Sheeran pulling the dead Hoffa a coiple of feet which I assume to have him bleed out in the space which was previously prepared for Hoffa to do so.

As mentioned earlier many investigators including FBI personnel do not believe that Sheeran killed Hoffa, but the author who is convinced thay Sheeran killed Hoffa believes that Sheeran was definitely  the killer because Sheeran  apparently confessed to a priest in an effort to make spiritual ammends before he died as most of them bad Italian guys were
in fact of the Catholic faith and would go straight to hell if they did not proclaim their sorrow prior to their death.

I believe that that confession scene is in the movie..

(That in itself is an interesting topic to discuss,)

I did watch the closing credits and was somewhat disappointed that there was no mention about the principal individuals prior to their death.

And there was no mention of "An offer you cannot refuse" nor .... a dead horse-head beneath the sheets!



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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2019, 12:58:31 PM »
I won’t spend one cent on a Robert DeNiro movie.

That liberal crybaby can eat shit.


THIS  ;)

It's very easy to get nicely pirated DVD's  :D

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2019, 06:17:22 PM »
DeNiro can barely walk. The movie is pathetic. I would walk out of that movie if it were being shown in an airplane.
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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2019, 06:41:23 PM »
DeNiro can barely walk. The movie is pathetic. I would walk out of that movie if it were being shown in an airplane.

Pretty much, lol.
Deniro and Pesci are 76 and Pacino is 79!  :o

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2019, 06:47:13 PM »
I just finished watching it , 6/10

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2019, 03:58:03 AM »

THIS  ;)

It's very easy to get nicely pirated DVD's  :D

It’s on Netflix
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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2019, 09:22:31 AM »
Martin Scorsese's newest film was almost a recycling of some of his old films and with the same three stock actors. . . Watched it and it was like watching bits of Goodfellow's, Casino and even Mean Streets all rolled into one. Which is not to say that in a negative way, but seeing one Scorsese mafia movie..pretty much not surprise by anything from him. But they are all film classics, of course. DeNero was too old for the Irishman role. Which put a damper on the whole movie for me. That fact kept running through my mine watching. Only time DeNero seemed to fit was when he was in that wheelchair. Can make a young actor look old, but not a old actor look young with any great success. Even though DeNero's father was half Italian and half Irish, and his mother was mostly Angel-Saxon/German, DeNero still looked ethnic Italian, far from that Irish look that was needed in the movie. Three hours long, by about a half an hour. Good movie by Scorses, but not a perfect movie, because you really knew want to expect. No shocker, for me anyway. Al Pacino outstanding and he held his at times his over acting in check in this film. What really helped make the movie was all the talented character actors.

Really liked Joe Pesci in Casino and Good Fellows. That was perfect casting for Pesci, underplayed and all, in the Irishman. Still liked the God Father (1 & 2) as my favorite Mafia movie. The Bronx Tale , another underrated gangster movie. That curb scene, in front of the grocery store, really showed DeNero's age. He looked like an old may looking for his walker.

Over all,a very over hyped film, but enjoyable never the less.

(there was another Irishman mentioned in the film.  That was JFK and family. Adding the subtle hints that he was the victim of a planned Mafia hit. That Cuba thing was also very interesting and the fact that JFK did turn his back on support during the Bay of Pigs blunder. The Kennedy family did make their wealth from working with the Mafia way back in the day....that's easy to research for any one)

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2019, 10:12:01 AM »
Well done movie, hate the old actors being CG-ized...the technology is not yet there. I could not stop to think about De Niro's age. I thought he looked a 100 in the movie. Should have had young guys portray early life of Hoffa and Mafia members.   

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2019, 07:42:00 PM »
Finished watching it last night. Movie got better as it went on. Some good acting and suspense. A lot of the supporting cast made the film much better. Deniros performance got better as his character aged closer to his real age. Definitely worth a watch. It's the first good movie these guys have been in in well over 20 years.

I dont like when actors use their fame to broadcast their useless opinions. And deniros behavior over the years as well as his poor film choices have made him much less likable as a human being. But I dont  judge an actor on their political views, I judge an actor on their acting and it was nice to see him in a good movie again.

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« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2019, 08:14:38 PM »
problem for me with it, and ive only seen half so far, is that Tv has come so far since the glory days of goodfellas and casino.Stuff like Narcos and Gomorah can tell far better and more intricate stories with the same quality of cinematography, production etc now.Back in goodfellas and casinos day, best tv we had was seinfeld and friends.Tv is just flatout better than movies now, the depth of a book with the production of a mid 90s movie.What ive seen so far of The Irishman just feels rushed and souless.

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2019, 12:59:31 AM »
problem for me with it, and ive only seen half so far, is that Tv has come so far since the glory days of goodfellas and casino.Stuff like Narcos and Gomorah can tell far better and more intricate stories with the same quality of cinematography, production etc now.Back in goodfellas and casinos day, best tv we had was seinfeld and friends.Tv is just flatout better than movies now, the depth of a book with the production of a mid 90s movie.What ive seen so far of The Irishman just feels rushed and souless.

Can't argue with that. The mini-series and multi-year series have jumped past movies the last 20 years (especially the last decade). The Deadwood movie was a good example of that. I appreciate that they tried to close up loose ends, but it really needed at least a short series to tell the story the best.

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« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2019, 03:45:50 AM »
problem for me with it, and ive only seen half so far, is that Tv has come so far since the glory days of goodfellas and casino.Stuff like Narcos and Gomorah can tell far better and more intricate stories with the same quality of cinematography, production etc now.Back in goodfellas and casinos day, best tv we had was seinfeld and friends.Tv is just flatout better than movies now, the depth of a book with the production of a mid 90s movie.What ive seen so far of The Irishman just feels rushed and souless.
Very good observation.

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2019, 05:22:52 AM »
Yeah, you actually need many more hours than 3.5 to tell a story right.

That's why series are better these days, since series today can have the same quality / budget as some movies and are able to convey a much longer time period with much more time to build up character development.

3.5 hours isn't enough to tell a life story of ancient historical characters such as Alexander the Great, Al Capone, the Goodrum Vissy-lovestory etc
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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2019, 05:37:55 AM »
Joe Pesci kept this movie afloat.   Was hoping for a lot better. 

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2019, 06:16:50 AM »
It was an excellent movie.

Pesci especially.

It would have been better with someone else instead of de niro though. Not because he's a libtard, but because he didn't fit the role.

But he was the head of the project from what I remember, so it is what it is

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2019, 06:17:40 AM »
It was an excellent movie.

Pesci especially.

It would have been better with someone else instead of de niro though. Not because he's a libtard, but because he didn't fit the role.

But he was the head of the project from what I remember, so it is what it is

Are you saying the movie wouldn't have been made without him?
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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2019, 06:47:34 AM »
Are you saying the movie wouldn't have been made without him?

Robert De Niro "got the project underway" after reading a copy of the 2004 book I Heard You Paint Houses written by Charles Brandt,[5] with Martin Scorsese saying that De Niro "became rather emotional" as he told him about the lead character.

Film literally got made because of de niro's high estrogen levels

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2019, 06:52:39 AM »
It was an excellent movie.

Pesci especially.

It would have been better with someone else instead of de niro though. Not because he's a libtard, but because he didn't fit the role.

But he was the head of the project from what I remember, so it is what it is

Yeah, it wouldn't have gotten made without Deniro. I first heard they were going to make it around 2006. It probably would've been better years ago. Deniro also helped wrangle Pesci.

I can't think of another actor though that could easily slide into the Deniro part though, closest I could come up with is maybe Michael Shannon -

https://images.indianexpress.com/2016/04/michael-shannon-759.jpg?w=759&h=422&imflag=true .

All the other actors I thought of Joe Don Baker, Brian Dennehy, etc.... are old as fuck themselves.

Also I think the title "The Irishman" already sets people up thinking about the accent, etc.... But when you hear Sheeran on tape - he's definitely American, New York, Philly, NJish in accent.

Perhaps Getbig can brainstorm it, who does Getbig think he looks like -

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(facially and physically he looks closest to the character actor Mike Starr ( also old now ) ).

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2019, 09:43:26 AM »
The Italians were always soft compared to us

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2019, 10:34:41 AM »
The Italians were always soft compared to us
And sober.

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2020, 09:16:15 PM »
Just my opinion. Today's movie goers respond to action movies and instant gratification. This was a connoisseur type film paying homage to the films of the past. It could have been this or it could have been that, but frankly, I'm just glad they are still making films like this to at least have the option to watch. Pesci was on point, Pacino thank god had reined in his HOOHA! overacting tendency. Deniro I thought allowed others to take the lead, which speaks well for a leading actor. Overall, I thought it was a good flick.   

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2020, 09:18:49 PM »
BB. JOSwift ...Based on my recall after reading the book ... Chuck O'Brian drove the car with Sheeran and Hoffa in the back seat with another guy seated in the front passenger seat (whose name I have forgotten) after picking up Hoffa at the restaurant parking lot (30 minutes late) thinking that he (O'Brian) was dropping Hoffa and Sheeran at the house for a meeting ... upon which O'Brian and the other guy drove off leaving Hoffa and Sheeran to enter the empty house.

And as shown in the movie Hoffa entered the front door first with Sheeran diretly behind him ... and seeing that the house was empty, HOFFA  turned swiftly to go back outside .... but was immediately shot in his head behind his right ear and fell dead immediately.

THe movie shows Sheeran pulling the dead Hoffa a coiple of feet which I assume to have him bleed out in the space which was previously prepared for Hoffa to do so.

As mentioned earlier many investigators including FBI personnel do not believe that Sheeran killed Hoffa, but the author who is convinced thay Sheeran killed Hoffa believes that Sheeran was definitely  the killer because Sheeran  apparently confessed to a priest in an effort to make spiritual ammends before he died as most of them bad Italian guys were
in fact of the Catholic faith and would go straight to hell if they did not proclaim their sorrow prior to their death.

I believe that that confession scene is in the movie..

(That in itself is an interesting topic to discuss,)

I did watch the closing credits and was somewhat disappointed that there was no mention about the principal individuals prior to their death.

And there was no mention of "An offer you cannot refuse" nor .... a dead horse-head beneath the sheets!




I assumed it was to open the door to exit

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Re: The Irishman
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2020, 03:03:36 AM »
DeNiro can barely walk. The movie is pathetic. I would walk out of that movie if it were being shown in an airplane.

Yep^

The actors are all way past it except Pacino.

Deniro and Pesci can't carry lead roles anymore..... The CGI looked weird and deniro looked awkward and out of place in the role. The story was played out and flat trying to be an instant classic but missing all over the place.

6/10