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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #675 on: March 28, 2020, 04:35:35 AM »
Sure let’s believe the guy leading the charge who lied about Cholera break outs on two different occasions. 

Did I named someone who to believe? Just stay with facts, and you will be ok. In these days internet is filled with tons of completely futile crap about this virus, so it is better to listen facts than fiction. First you should start to understand what is the difference between claim, opinion and the fact. I can give you a littel hint: Facts comes always with evidence..

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« Reply #676 on: March 28, 2020, 04:41:20 AM »
Did I named someone who to believe? Just stay with facts, and you will be ok. In these days internet is filled with tons of completely futile crap about this virus, so it is better to listen facts than fiction. First you should start to understand what is the difference between claim, opinion and the fact. I can give you a littel hint: Facts comes always with evidence..

No,’you didn’t name anyone in particular but you did mention scientists as a source of truth.  I can decipher between fact and opinion pretty well, thanks.   You strike me as someone who believes whatever MSM tell him and that’s okay.  Put on your critical thinking hat for a minute and instead of believing “facts” draw your own conclusions. 

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #677 on: March 28, 2020, 08:05:46 AM »
Just another media-controlled slavetard. Quick to talk/parrot and slow to listen.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #678 on: March 28, 2020, 06:34:06 PM »
    Global case total tops 600k
    Global COVID-19 death toll tops 30k
    US death toll tops 2k
    After Trump earlier said he was weighing enforceable quarantine order for all the tri-state area, late on Sunday he said that "on the recommendation of the White House CoronaVirus Task Force, and upon consultation with the Governor’s of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut" he would not be imposing a quarantine.
    Japan fast-tracks approval of treatment drug for COVID-19
    Third UK minister self-quarantines after showing symptoms of virus
    Calif. death toll tops 100
    Trump tells NBC reporter that quarantines of New York, NJ & Conn. were "possible"
    Axios reports infant dies in Chicago after testing positive for COVID-19
    Italy case total surpasses China
    Spain reports deadliest day yet
    UK case total climbs north of 17k
    France reports another 5k cases
    Navy hospital ships leave for New York, LA
    Abe says he's "just barely avoiding" declaring a national emergency
    Yale University slammed for denying aid to city of New Haven
    Shinzo Abe promises unprecedented stimulus package
    Trump gives Pentagon power to call up retired soldiers and reservists
    NYPD detective dies from COVID-19
    Italian centennarian survives battle with COVID-19







The above chart is showing about 4.5% mortality rate worldwide, which is abysmal. How accurate is it? Who knows?


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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #680 on: March 28, 2020, 06:53:26 PM »
WELL PLAYED CHINA....

Horribly played China.

They are economically screwed after this because it just exposed how vulnerable it is having China make everything.

Someparts just said it, QE cuts off China at the knees. The world doesn't need China to buy their debt anymore.

China pegs the yuan to the USD so when the rest of us devalue the currency, Chin must follow otherwise they appreciate and become expensive. China is now a passenger.

If anything, India will be a big winner as business shifts investment away from China.

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« Reply #681 on: March 28, 2020, 07:53:41 PM »

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« Reply #682 on: March 28, 2020, 09:32:02 PM »
   Global case total tops 600k
    Global COVID-19 death toll tops 30k
    US death toll tops 2k
    After Trump earlier said he was weighing enforceable quarantine order for all the tri-state area, late on Sunday he said that "on the recommendation of the White House CoronaVirus Task Force, and upon consultation with the Governor’s of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut" he would not be imposing a quarantine.
    Japan fast-tracks approval of treatment drug for COVID-19
    Third UK minister self-quarantines after showing symptoms of virus
    Calif. death toll tops 100
    Trump tells NBC reporter that quarantines of New York, NJ & Conn. were "possible"
    Axios reports infant dies in Chicago after testing positive for COVID-19
    Italy case total surpasses China
    Spain reports deadliest day yet
    UK case total climbs north of 17k
    France reports another 5k cases
    Navy hospital ships leave for New York, LA
    Abe says he's "just barely avoiding" declaring a national emergency
    Yale University slammed for denying aid to city of New Haven
    Shinzo Abe promises unprecedented stimulus package
    Trump gives Pentagon power to call up retired soldiers and reservists
    NYPD detective dies from COVID-19
    Italian centennarian survives battle with COVID-19







The above chart is showing about 4.5% mortality rate worldwide, which is abysmal. How accurate is it? Who knows?


How accurate is a 4% death rate? I think I have answered this before. But I will explain again. The "confirmed cases" are largely people who were already so sick that they were already in hospital and then tested. So yes of those who are already sick enough to be hospitalized, and then take those of that segment who are actually tested and confirmed positive, you will see a far far higher "death rate" than the death rate of actual total infected vs death rate. The actual total infected is in the hundreds of millions globally at this point and most of the planet will have been exposed over the next 3 months, so the real death rate is far far lower - likely 1/10000 dying (and of those of us dying here in New York the vast majority are elderly, in poor health, or smokers) as was the same in other countries).

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #683 on: March 28, 2020, 09:56:53 PM »
You couldn't make this stuff up. This video is dated February 4th...stands now as proof that virtue signaling can get you killed.


"Mayor of Florence Dario Nardella has suggested residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in the fight against the novel coronavirus. Meanwhile, a member of Associazione Unione Giovani Italo Cinesi, a Chinese society in Italy aimed at promoting friendship between people in the two countries, called for respect for novel coronavirus patients during a street demonstration. "I'm not a virus. I'm a human. Eradicate the prejudice." "












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« Reply #684 on: March 29, 2020, 01:07:03 AM »
No,’you didn’t name anyone in particular but you did mention scientists as a source of truth.  I can decipher between fact and opinion pretty well, thanks.   You strike me as someone who believes whatever MSM tell him and that’s okay.  Put on your critical thinking hat for a minute and instead of believing “facts” draw your own conclusions. 

So you are an idiot, aren't you? You trust your dimwit conclusions made by the crap you have read from the internet, and that is your critical thinking? You drop the ball in the first sentence, because most of the facts in this reality comes from the science, presented to you by scientists. Instead of accusing that they are lying, why don't you prove they are? This is the point which make the difference between realistic homo sapiens, and tin foil hat moron.

So if the scientist are lying about the fact that covid 19 isn't a man made virus, what would be their motive? To protect that idiot who let it loose? Why group of international scientist who has make this conclusion, would have this motive? To protect US whose virus it is, those chinese, japanese french etc. scientist will do absolutely anything? Or was it chinese virus? Or russian?? You don't have a clue, but you know it is man made by your critical thinking, which is ruled by your prejudices: Government by it whole organisation exists only for spreading lies to the people.

How about his: This virus born from crap in chinese marketplace, and shit happens? This has happen every other year as long as there has been humans on this earth, and our history is filled with this kind of epidemic, and much worst ones. So shut the fuck up, follow orders, take your pills and all is fine  ;D

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« Reply #685 on: March 29, 2020, 02:26:05 AM »
Better not spread to Europe!



Hopefully no Europeans travel to China this year.



unfortunately, it didn't work out this way.
 So strange to look back, even just a couple of months.

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« Reply #686 on: March 29, 2020, 02:29:04 AM »
Just think a second: what would be the motive for this, while it is one fucking enermous economic disaster for all and every country in this planet? Who want to fuck around with virus, which cost tens of thousands of lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars per country, including country which spread it? Who would be stupid enough to do this kind of extended suicide?

Do you somehow find comfort from the thought, that it could be man made virus? That's only because you need someone to blame this, because you start to understand how fucking serious this is. In reality, scientists has study the virus, and it is not man made. How come? Because technique how it has been build, would reveal it because there are only certain ways to do certain things. Nature has unlimited amount of  ways, man made has to follow certain route. This is among the first facts about the virus, because there is plenty of parties who want to know that.

Trumplandia has now 104 661 covid-19 cases, and 1706 deaths. Speed has been rising instead of slowing down during the week, so it is obvious that people out there still doesn't take this seriously. They get warning examples all over the world, but haven't learn a bit, and now it is time to pay. How long it take change that 104661 to million? 5 - 6 days?

The virus is man made technically though it already existed in nature. It was synthesized from sars I believe for the purpose of studying and figuring out how we could beat it if it jumped species. the world was warned the virus could escape and it did. none of this should surprise you and before you demand I cite sources look it up your damned self. google Chinese researcher warned of corona virus or something and go from there.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #687 on: March 29, 2020, 03:56:29 AM »
So you are an idiot, aren't you? You trust your dimwit conclusions made by the crap you have read from the internet, and that is your critical thinking? You drop the ball in the first sentence, because most of the facts in this reality comes from the science, presented to you by scientists. Instead of accusing that they are lying, why don't you prove they are? This is the point which make the difference between realistic homo sapiens, and tin foil hat moron.

So if the scientist are lying about the fact that covid 19 isn't a man made virus, what would be their motive? To protect that idiot who let it loose? Why group of international scientist who has make this conclusion, would have this motive? To protect US whose virus it is, those chinese, japanese french etc. scientist will do absolutely anything? Or was it chinese virus? Or russian?? You don't have a clue, but you know it is man made by your critical thinking, which is ruled by your prejudices: Government by it whole organisation exists only for spreading lies to the people.

How about his: This virus born from crap in chinese marketplace, and shit happens? This has happen every other year as long as there has been humans on this earth, and our history is filled with this kind of epidemic, and much worst ones. So shut the fuck up, follow orders, take your pills and all is fine  ;D


Their motive would be to not cause mass panic - as a “Natural” Virus is much easier sold
& Acceptable To General population- Man Made = Bio weapon = Panic

And also the Chinese have had these shit hole markets forever & been eating weird
& Dead / Alive / rotten / Diseased food sources for thousands of years - or do you Think
They just started this crap Behaviour/ eating in 2019. 🙄

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« Reply #688 on: March 29, 2020, 03:59:48 AM »
Horribly played China.

They are economically screwed after this because it just exposed how vulnerable it is having China make everything.

Someparts just said it, QE cuts off China at the knees. The world doesn't need China to buy their debt anymore.

China pegs the yuan to the USD so when the rest of us devalue the currency, Chin must follow otherwise they appreciate and become expensive. China is now a passenger.

If anything, India will be a big winner as business shifts investment away from China.

Agreed.

South-East Asian countries could also benefit from this.

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« Reply #689 on: March 29, 2020, 05:30:08 AM »
So you are an idiot, aren't you? You trust your dimwit conclusions made by the crap you have read from the internet, and that is your critical thinking? You drop the ball in the first sentence, because most of the facts in this reality comes from the science, presented to you by scientists. Instead of accusing that they are lying, why don't you prove they are? This is the point which make the difference between realistic homo sapiens, and tin foil hat moron.

So if the scientist are lying about the fact that covid 19 isn't a man made virus, what would be their motive? To protect that idiot who let it loose? Why group of international scientist who has make this conclusion, would have this motive? To protect US whose virus it is, those chinese, japanese french etc. scientist will do absolutely anything? Or was it chinese virus? Or russian?? You don't have a clue, but you know it is man made by your critical thinking, which is ruled by your prejudices: Government by it whole organisation exists only for spreading lies to the people.

How about his: This virus born from crap in chinese marketplace, and shit happens? This has happen every other year as long as there has been humans on this earth, and our history is filled with this kind of epidemic, and much worst ones. So shut the fuck up, follow orders, take your pills and all is fine  ;D

You got all this for me saying don’t believe MSM and draw your own conclusions?  Lmao you’re pathetic.  Did I cite any sources or who/what I’m getting my information from or did you just assume like the asshole you are?  How about this, you’re a jackass who is clearly unhappy with himself to make a baseless comment like you did :).  I’ll continue to draw my own conclusions while you get spoon fed by MSM the typical bullshit, enjoy.

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« Reply #690 on: March 29, 2020, 10:20:06 AM »
The virus is man made technically though it already existed in nature. It was synthesized from sars I believe for the purpose of studying and figuring out how we could beat it if it jumped species. the world was warned the virus could escape and it did. none of this should surprise you and before you demand I cite sources look it up your damned self. google Chinese researcher warned of corona virus or something and go from there.

And you know this to be a fact exactly how? Because these completely unproved claims are just what you want to hear. There is plenty of information about this virus, and why it's can't be man made, but did you read it? No, because these foil hats has much more exiting news to you. "Just think with your own brains", why in the name of god nature could want to kill humans? Just ignore the fact that this has happen over and over again through the history of the mankind from the beginning of the time. ;D

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« Reply #691 on: March 29, 2020, 10:49:59 AM »
You got all this for me saying don’t believe MSM and draw your own conclusions?  Lmao you’re pathetic.  Did I cite any sources or who/what I’m getting my information from or did you just assume like the asshole you are?  How about this, you’re a jackass who is clearly unhappy with himself to make a baseless comment like you did :).  I’ll continue to draw my own conclusions while you get spoon fed by MSM the typical bullshit, enjoy.

Dear cry baby, in this country media will provide a link to the source, and you can read what these scientists has wrote in their report. If you have any kind of brains, you will understand that there is quite plain and simple logic how they read these viruses. I don't know if I am able to simplify this enough to your level, so sorry if this goes over your head:

When scientist look at this virus, what they see is random components thrown together in random order. It look like someone has drop this piece of shit from his ass, steps on it and then it has been on the rain few days. If it would be man made, there would be some kind of logic to be seen; because if you know what you are looking, you see what is done and why it has been done. Laboratories doesn't make viruses by throwing random crap to the wall just to see what sticks and what not. They have a goal what they try to reach, and only limited means to get there. If you know those means, you see if there is marks of them in the virus. Quite simple?

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #692 on: March 29, 2020, 11:14:29 AM »
anytime I see or hear someone cough i semi freak out  :'( - makes me think - the hysteria!

I woke up with a semi sore throat (minor stuff) then it makes me think -   ??? ::) ???

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« Reply #693 on: March 29, 2020, 11:18:04 AM »

Their motive would be to not cause mass panic - as a “Natural” Virus is much easier sold
& Acceptable To General population- Man Made = Bio weapon = Panic

And also the Chinese have had these shit hole markets forever & been eating weird
& Dead / Alive / rotten / Diseased food sources for thousands of years - or do you Think
They just started this crap Behaviour/ eating in 2019. 🙄

I don’t really have a strong opinion about the man-made argument, but I do believe that the one of the reasons  for the dire predictions is to funnel money to the healthcare establishment:

Remember, AIDS was a death sentence back then and the two hundred thousand means that’s how many would die. The point of it back then was to get all types of funding for research and foundations. Same thing is going to happen with corona.


Follow the money!



https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-03-08-vw-591-story.html

“At a minimum, we estimate that 200,000 heterosexuals have been infected” with the AIDS virus, said Kolodny, medical director of the Behavioral Medicine Institute in New Canaan, Conn., and a board member of the Masters & Johnson Institute in St. Louis.




https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-28/nyc-quarantine-debated-italy-deaths-pass-10-000-virus-update


Deaths in the U.S. could reach 200,000, top infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci said, describing the estimate as a moving target. New York state’s fatalities are approaching 1,000.

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« Reply #694 on: March 29, 2020, 11:23:55 AM »
You even have the same scam artist at the Helm:




AIDS Warrior, Takes on Another Plague

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/nyregion/coronavirus-larry-kramer-aids.html

As his onetime foe and current friend, Dr. Anthony Fauci, confronts the coronavirus, the writer and activist watches history repeat itself.




Yeah, I’m watching it, too.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #695 on: March 29, 2020, 01:18:31 PM »
How accurate is a 4% death rate? I think I have answered this before. But I will explain again. The "confirmed cases" are largely people who were already so sick that they were already in hospital and then tested. So yes of those who are already sick enough to be hospitalized, and then take those of that segment who are actually tested and confirmed positive, you will see a far far higher "death rate" than the death rate of actual total infected vs death rate. The actual total infected is in the hundreds of millions globally at this point and most of the planet will have been exposed over the next 3 months, so the real death rate is far far lower - likely 1/10000 dying (and of those of us dying here in New York the vast majority are elderly, in poor health, or smokers) as was the same in other countries).

Correct. Most of Europe and the US to follow shortly are not that far off herd immunity. The Asians on the other hand will need to stay relatively closed off and manage the spread of the virus. Advantage the West. Hopefully they make the most of it.

Also the reason for the high death rates in Italy and Spain is because initially the Doctors and nurses were seeing covid19 patients without any protective equipment/procedures in place. This meant the majority of staff became infected and spread the infection on to all the elderly and sick already in hospitals and to all those who came to see them. Germany on the other hand managed to avoid this and the death rate is far lower there.

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« Reply #696 on: March 29, 2020, 01:30:01 PM »
Just think a second: what would be the motive for this, while it is one fucking enermous economic disaster for all and every country in this planet? Who want to fuck around with virus, which cost tens of thousands of lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars per country, including country which spread it? Who would be stupid enough to do this kind of extended suicide?

Do you somehow find comfort from the thought, that it could be man made virus? That's only because you need someone to blame this, because you start to understand how fucking serious this is. In reality, scientists has study the virus, and it is not man made. How come? Because technique how it has been build, would reveal it because there are only certain ways to do certain things. Nature has unlimited amount of  ways, man made has to follow certain route. This is among the first facts about the virus, because there is plenty of parties who want to know that.

Trumplandia has now 104 661 covid-19 cases, and 1706 deaths. Speed has been rising instead of slowing down during the week, so it is obvious that people out there still doesn't take this seriously. They get warning examples all over the world, but haven't learn a bit, and now it is time to pay. How long it take change that 104661 to million? 5 - 6 days?

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #697 on: March 29, 2020, 04:01:59 PM »
2300 dead in us so far , big deal or no?
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« Reply #698 on: March 29, 2020, 05:01:34 PM »
2300 dead in us so far , big deal or no?

It's a big deal if you knew any of them. 

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« Reply #699 on: March 29, 2020, 10:23:32 PM »
What a dickhead.