Covid 19 - We are all screwed - discuss

[pellius]

Everyone ought take a moment to really understand exponential growth.

Imagine a petri dish with a bacteria culture. This culture doubles every minute. If I tell you this bacteria will have spread to the entire dish in 60 minutes at what time will the dish be half full?

59 minutes.

The symptoms can be severe enough to demand intensive care, and where you still have half your beds one day, the next day you will be exceeding capacity.

ASSUMING everyone had perfect access to medical care, respirators, etc, yeah, maybe it could be handled.

Once hospitals are swamped however, it won't just be corona killing people.

How fatal is this disease? The vast majority that died were the elderly and those that had preexisting conditions just like the flu. Everyone that they featured on TV that tested positive seemed fine and said they felt OK. How bad can a disease be when so many that have it don't even have symptoms? I've never seen anyone with the flu that didn't have symptoms. A good friend of mine got the flu bad about three months ago. He was out for about ten days. He's fine now. His wife and kids didn't move out or isolate him. They just were careful when around him. Just like everybody is now. More so than at any time in history.

[Hypertrophy]

Everyone ought take a moment to really understand exponential growth.

Imagine a petri dish with a bacteria culture. This culture doubles every minute. If I tell you this bacteria will have spread to the entire dish in 60 minutes at what time will the dish be half full?

59 minutes.

The symptoms can be severe enough to demand intensive care, and where you still have half your beds one day, the next day you will be exceeding capacity.

ASSUMING everyone had perfect access to medical care, respirators, etc, yeah, maybe it could be handled.

Once hospitals are swamped however, it won't just be corona killing people.

We can tell who skipped the lessons on differential equations and integral calculus at school- you. Exponential growth of viral infections is always the case in the beginning, followed by a plateau and then a decline. I’ll bet you are the kind of guy who sees an increase in strength on the bench press of 10 pounds a week in the beginning and figures in 50 weeks you’ll have the world record, lol

[TheGrinch]

Temporary bill of privileges... not constitutional rights

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/doj-wants-suspend-constitutional-rights-205444026.html

 

[friedchickendinner]

Bad news for americans:

Albania: an obese 43-year-old man has died.

The National Center for Health Statistics estimates that, for 2015-2016 in the U.S., 39.8% of adults aged 20 and over were obese.

[mazrim]

Many Americans are just begging for their rights to be squashed. Embracing it. You literally have people in authority in Dallas that say 480,000 will die in their state. What is wrong with them and you people in this thread that have nothing of actual substance to back up what you are saying? I don't care about your false models/fake estimates, etc. None of what you are purporting has been true.

So stupid and destructive. Its disgusting how quickly we give in and so many want the government to shut down businesses, etc. and effectively shut down lives. Biggest stupidity of my lifetime.

[pellius]

Many Americans are just begging for their rights to be squashed. Embracing it. You literally have people in authority in Dallas that say 480,000 will die in their state. What is wrong with them and you people in this thread that have nothing of actual substance to back up what you are saying? I don't care about your false models/fake estimates, etc. None of what you are purporting has been true.

So stupid and destructive. Its disgusting how quickly we give in and so many want the government to shut down businesses, etc. and effectively shut down lives. Biggest stupidity of my lifetime.

X2

Our Governor here showed a graph where in the next couple of months all the hospitals will be overrun and we'll be doomed. Isn't the fact that all the businesses here are close, all public events canceled, people are isolating themselves, and everyone is a hygiene freak now is not going to have any effect at all?

[fredrollon]

Hardly a surprise is it?


"According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, the country’s mortality rate is far higher due to demographics - the nation has the second oldest population worldwide - and the manner in which hospitals record deaths.

The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older - the median is 67, while in China it was 46,” Prof Ricciardi says. “So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality.”

A study in JAMA this week found that almost 40 per cent of infections and 87 per cent of deaths in the country have been in patients over 70 years old.

And according to modelling the majority of this age group are likely to need critical hospital care - including 80 per cent of 80-somethings - putting immense pressure on the health system.

But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.

“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says. "


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

http://www.euro.who.int/en/data-and-evidence/evidence-informed-policy-making/european-advisory-committee-on-health-research-eachr/committee-members/professor-walter-ricciardi-italy

[SF1900]

Who could pull of a hoax on the entire world? Seems quite unlikely to me.

Well, getbiggers said this is all a hoax, so it must be a hoax.

I have posed the question of what do we do now, since getbiggers have established its a hoax. What are the next steps? I have yet to receive an answer.

[harmankardon1]

Everyone ought take a moment to really understand exponential growth.

Imagine a petri dish with a bacteria culture. This culture doubles every minute. If I tell you this bacteria will have spread to the entire dish in 60 minutes at what time will the dish be half full?

59 minutes.

The symptoms can be severe enough to demand intensive care, and where you still have half your beds one day, the next day you will be exceeding capacity.

ASSUMING everyone had perfect access to medical care, respirators, etc, yeah, maybe it could be handled.

Once hospitals are swamped however, it won't just be corona killing people.

Bacteria don't grow that fast brah...

[harmankardon1]

X2

Our Governor here showed a graph where in the next couple of months all the hospitals will be overrun and we'll be doomed. Isn't the fact that all the businesses here are close, all public events canceled, people are isolating themselves, and everyone is a hygiene freak now is not going to have any effect at all?

They don't know fuck all, they're in a flustered panic...

[harmankardon1]

We can tell who skipped the lessons on differential equations and integral calculus at school- you. Exponential growth of viral infections is always the case in the beginning, followed by a plateau and then a decline. I’ll bet you are the kind of guy who sees an increase in strength on the bench press of 10 pounds a week in the beginning and figures in 50 weeks you’ll have the world record, lol

Lol, good zinger at the end. 

[The Scott]

I hope for the end of the turd world.  Civilized nations should band together against the Coronavirus and the  viruses of islime, liberalism, cuckoldry, Hollyweird and the greenies, et al as well as other degenerates.  Cast them out to be on their own and let them work to become civilized and industrious or fade away as they should.

Otherwise, we are all screwed. 

We are not gonna get screwed.  Fuck the "if it feeeeels good, do it" people.  Fuck the muslime BS.  Fuck Hollyweirdos.  They are not fooling anyone with their #BS.  They went along with Weinstein, Epstein and anything goes to further their own careers and coffers. 

Let 'em choke on their woke.  Real people can fight back and get through this.

[Army of One]

We can tell who skipped the lessons on differential equations and integral calculus at school- you. Exponential growth of viral infections is always the case in the beginning, followed by a plateau and then a decline. I’ll bet you are the kind of guy who sees an increase in strength on the bench press of 10 pounds a week in the beginning and figures in 50 weeks you’ll have the world record, lol

Only needs to be exponential to the point of filling hospitals, ive said this for over a month.Its more like the bench press record only being 150 pounds.The plateau and decline could still be many many times more than what hospitals can handle.

[French]

this guy will be the world Hero of this crisis.

https://www.en24.news/a/2020/03/hydroxychloroquine-would-be-effective-according-to-professor-raoult-of-the-ihu-in-marseille-after-a-first-limited-test.html

[chaos]

Well, getbiggers said this is all a hoax, so it must be a hoax.

I have posed the question of what do we do now, since getbiggers have established its a hoax. What are the next steps? I have yet to receive an answer.

Resume your normal life.

[TheGrinch]

wooooosh?


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832/?fbclid=IwAR39SfqFXBIBnnuVAMaH51K_tSZmsLa8k6lZiE3ocDNOj2ipKH-6vKxWm_Q

[chaos]

wooooosh?


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832/?fbclid=IwAR39SfqFXBIBnnuVAMaH51K_tSZmsLa8k6lZiE3ocDNOj2ipKH-6vKxWm_Q

Shut down the country!!! Hide the bodies!!

[Notomorrow]

Media hiding the young, healthy people that get it because they know they'll be talking to someone with the flu. Just random reports of "bodies". No one has a YouTube channel called "Living with Corona" or some shit? The few media reports of a young healthy person that had it, show someone that has the flu. But that doesn't fit the terror narrative.

[illuminati]

Media hiding the young, healthy people that get it because they know they'll be talking to someone with the flu. Just random reports of "bodies". No one has a YouTube channel called "Living with Corona" or some shit? The few media reports of a young healthy person that had it, show someone that has the flu. But that doesn't fit the terror narrative.

I’m not really sure of what is & isn’t going on.
I do believe Their is a Virus & Probably a Horrible One at that,
Though it’s fairly clear there is a lot of miss information & Scaremongering Going On
And there’s very little being said about the Drugs that are showing potential in helping
People - I’d of thought that would be main headline everywhere- Instead it’s just Constantly
Doom & Gloom.
Is There a sinister ulterior motive ? And if so what the hell could it Be ?

[illuminati]

We can tell who skipped the lessons on differential equations and integral calculus at school- you. Exponential growth of viral infections is always the case in the beginning, followed by a plateau and then a decline. I’ll bet you are the kind of guy who sees an increase in strength on the bench press of 10 pounds a week in the beginning and figures in 50 weeks you’ll have the world record, lol

I’m sure Army means well - not so sure all the doom & gloom is helping anyone or doing any good.
And I’m most certainly no math wizard so I can’t really comment on the Exponential growth business.
Though your analogy is amusing.
To me from what I’ve read & heard from various sources the Figures just don’t add up with the Doom & Gloom End of the Human Race predictions -
I’d much rather see & hear of drugs / things to help sort this out - Some much Needed Positivity
Would be Good.

[Army of One]

I’m sure Army means well - not so sure all the doom & gloom is helping anyone or doing any good.
And I’m most certainly no math wizard so I can’t really comment on the Exponential growth business.
Though your analogy is amusing.
To me from what I’ve read & heard from various sources the Figures just don’t add up with the Doom & Gloom End of the Human Race predictions -
I’d much rather see & hear of drugs / things to help sort this out - Some much Needed Positivity
Would be Good.

You HAVE to be doom and gloom to get the point across.Putin came out today and said you either spend 14 days in isolation or spend 5 years in prison.You can't do the softly softly approach in a once in a lifetime pandemic, it just doesn't work.People are too selfish.Thats why I was doom and gloom a month go, hopefully some here listened and were able to avoid the food rush etc, avoided getting themselves infected and maybe prevented a death of them or their relatives.

Everyone here was saying well there's nothing we can do, so why talk about it, which was insane to me.The thing that will save millions of lives, our economy etc, is strict social distancing, isolation, preparing etc.The very opposite of doing nothing, and exactly what every government in the world right now is trying to drill in to the heads of the selfish assholes who believe they are above the law, above catching it, spreading it etc.

[fredrollon]

Is There a sinister ulterior motive ? And if so what the hell could it Be ?

Very simple.

China has 4 times the population of the US .It is almost an arithmetic certainly that ,in a couple of decades, its per capita nominal GDP about a half that of America's and ,consequently , it will have twice the nominal GDP of America.

China is becoming a world leader in semiconductors, mobile technology, AI, and supercomputers and seems to have mastered the metallurgy for jet engines and is building up tis own aircraft carrier fleet

It is also doing well from global warming with rising CO2 increasing crop yields in China . The permafrost In Siberia, in China's ally country ,Russia, will in few years melt .freeing up vast tracts of land for agriculture. Global warming will also melt ice in the Arctic waters and open up the Northeast/ Northwest  Passage , opening up shorter trade routes from Europe to Asia and vice versa This will also allow Chinese shipping to bypass the US Pacific Fleet and allow  Chinese warship to pass through the Bering Strait, between Russia and Canada, and converge on the northern flanks of Europe and the Americas .

America has to reset, retool, restructure its economy and industries to deal with the Chinese challenge to its hegemon status. And now I guess is as good as time as any to do it.



Elon Musk ,last month, give an idea of the sort of thinking that goes on among the top generals and industrialists, in the US.

"A thing that will feel pretty strange is that the Chinese economy is probably going to be at least twice as big as the United States' economy, maybe three times," Musk said during a fireside chat with U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. John Thompson at the Air Warfare Symposium in Orlando, Florida. with U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. John Thompson at the Air Warfare Symposium in Orlando, Florida.

"The foundation of war is economics," Musk said. "If you have half the resources of the counterparty then you better be real innovative, if you're not innovative, you're going to lose."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/musk-says-chinese-economy-will-surpass-the-us-by-two-or-three-times.html

[tommywishbone]

"...the permafrost in Seberia is going to melt..."


    I've got nothing for that.

This thread is now closed.  Good bye citizens. 

[illuminati]

Very simple.

China has 4 times the population of the US .It is almost an arithmetic certainly that ,in a couple of decades, its per capita nominal GDP about a half that of America's and ,consequently , it will have twice the nominal GDP of America.

China is becoming a world leader in semiconductors, mobile technology, AI, and supercomputers and seems to have mastered the metallurgy for jet engines and is building up tis own aircraft carrier fleet

It is also doing well from global warming with rising CO2 increasing crop yields in China . The permafrost In Siberia, in China's ally country ,Russia, will in few years melt .freeing up vast tracts of land for agriculture. Global warming will also melt ice in the Arctic waters and open up the Northeast/ Northwest  Passage , opening up shorter trade routes from Europe to Asia and vice versa This will also allow Chinese shipping to bypass the US Pacific Fleet and allow  Chinese warship to pass through the Bering Strait, between Russia and Canada, and converge on the northern flanks of Europe and the Americas .

America has to reset, retool, restructure its economy and industries to deal with the Chinese challenge to its hegemon status. And now I guess is as good as time as any to do it.



Elon Musk ,last month, give an idea of the sort of thinking that goes on among the top generals and industrialists, in the US.

"A thing that will feel pretty strange is that the Chinese economy is probably going to be at least twice as big as the United States' economy, maybe three times," Musk said during a fireside chat with U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. John Thompson at the Air Warfare Symposium in Orlando, Florida. with U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. John Thompson at the Air Warfare Symposium in Orlando, Florida.

"The foundation of war is economics," Musk said. "If you have half the resources of the counterparty then you better be real innovative, if you're not innovative, you're going to lose."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/musk-says-chinese-economy-will-surpass-the-us-by-two-or-three-times.html

Ok - Clearly I would expect China’s economy to surpass the USA’s as they have such a vast population.
Only what has all that to do with this Virus Going About & Many Countries shutting down.

[illuminati]

You HAVE to be doom and gloom to get the point across.Putin came out today and said you either spend 14 days in isolation or spend 5 years in prison.You can't do the softly softly approach in a once in a lifetime pandemic, it just doesn't work.People are too selfish.Thats why I was doom and gloom a month go, hopefully some here listened and were able to avoid the food rush etc, avoided getting themselves infected and maybe prevented a death of them or their relatives.

Everyone here was saying well there's nothing we can do, so why talk about it, which was insane to me.The thing that will save millions of lives, our economy etc, is strict social distancing, isolation, preparing etc.The very opposite of doing nothing, and exactly what every government in the world right now is trying to drill in to the heads of the selfish assholes who believe they are above the law, above catching it, spreading it etc.

Fair points. - Though I’m not with you on the doom & gloom business.
People will do what people will do. Like it or Not were All going to die at some point - some sooner
Than others - Perhaps Some Just Take that view & think what will Be will Be.
No I’m not advocating that.
From the figures so far it appears an awfully Big Hammer to Crack a rather small nut.

It still doesn’t answer why they’re not Pushing the Drugs that are showing good promise
And Letting them be circulated to all who need them.