Covid 19 - We are all screwed - discuss

[che]

I'm not so sure that what Trump said was taken out of context as you claim it was.
No matter how you look at it, it seems he said something really stupid.

Trumptards  trying to spin the unspinnable.
He said something very stupid ,they don't have to defend it ,just admit it and move on.

[illuminati]

Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Bleach is considered by many to be the ultimate disinfectant because it kills every virus and every germ and doesn't require the dwell time other disinfectants do to work. He did say something about injecting a disinfectant. That's probably just enough to encourage some idiots to run out and buy some household bleach and some syringes so they can self medicate. After all, one couple drank fish tank cleaner because it contained chloroquine phosphate which is also found in an antimalarial medication that Trump suggested could be used to fight COVID-19.

Regardless of who said it - If any retards just go act on using Hazardous Chemicals without verifying exact facts they deserve all they get. What’s it going to get to if every thing has to be spelt out in baby language so Stupid idiots don’t go harm themselves. If they’re that totally stupid they going to do themselves serious harm one way or another sooner or later.  It’s just nature acting to cull the thick ones out of the gene pool,
Like it or not Medical science / is going against nature by constantly keeping the sick / weak etc alive & allowing them to reproduce which just goes against nature completely.
Only The Strongest Survive in Nature .

[friedchickendinner]

Regardless of who said it - If any retards just go act on using Hazardous Chemicals without verifying exact facts they deserve all they get. What’s it going to get to if every thing has to be spelt out in baby language so Stupid idiots don’t go harm themselves. If they’re that totally stupid they going to do themselves serious harm one way or another sooner or later.  It’s just nature acting to cull the thick ones out of the gene pool,
Like it or not Medical science / is going against nature by constantly keeping the sick / weak etc alive & allowing them to reproduce which just goes against nature completely.
Only The Strongest Survive in Nature .

Science goes against nature in a lot of ways.

You probably would not be alive if they didn't.

So with your own logic, you should be dead.

[el numero uno]

I'm not so sure that what Trump said was taken out of context as you claim it was.
No matter how you look at it, it seems he said something really stupid.

I guess I wasn't clear enough.

Trump did say something stupid. But to me it sounded like he was inferring things and asking for confirmation from his advisers.

He did not explicitely say "you need to inject bleach" or something like that. He literally said "Is there a way we can do something like that?" before his comment about the desinfectant, and "it'd be interesting to check that" and "sounds interesting"afterwards. So that's what I think it's been taken out of context.

For the record, I'm not a Trump supporter.

[Primemuscle]

Soon my friends.. TPTB will win the ultimate war and you will be at their mercy

Money paper and coins are so laden with germs, there is no way you'd want to handle it right now. Plastic requires minimal touching and the scanner and stylist can be disinfected between users. This is what is happening at the grocery stores in my town. COVID-19 will probably change how commerce is conducted forever.

Yesterday, I wanted a Subway sandwich. The ordering, delivery and transaction involved a minimal of human contact. Ordered and paid for it online, picked it up at the store at the scheduled time. Signed the receipt with my own pen. When I got home I unwrapped it onto a plate and then washed my hands really well before eating it. The store clerks make the sandwich wearing disposable gloves. The opportunity for a transfer of germs was almost totally minimized. 

[TheGrinch]

[Hypertrophy]

Trumptards  trying to spin the unspinnable.
He said something very stupid ,they don't have to defend it ,just admit it and move on.

Fuck off Chetard, lol.

[Primemuscle]

What's really going on is that scientists/virologist/doctors are being pressured by the government leadership to provide answers that are as yet unknown. Couple that with people who have no idea what they are talking about with regards to this issue are giving the public completely asinine and false information which is often completely contrary to what little scientific knowledge is available, Trump is one great example of this stupidity. And since many people believe everything he says is the truth are eating it up.

[Big Karma]

Basically it’s an economic war with the US, Japan and Europe against China. The investment side of China’s economy is a disaster as a result of failed central planning for the last 10 years. Their banking sector is 4 times the size of GDP and is loaded with bad loans. As a result, the currency is way overvalued.

The shutdown and devaluation is going to kill the other half of China’s economy, the export sector. The economic pain is the “sacrifice” we have to make for this war. Interesting, how this crisis occurred almost immediately after trade talks between the US and China broke down.

The other option would’ve been to allow the dollar, Euro and Yen to appreciate dramatically against the Yuan. The problem with that is that it would increase the real value of debt for countries that already have high Debt loads and also make exports not competitive with China. It’s really a race to the bottom.

As an aside, I have to laugh at the tools who are calling people conspiracy theorists  because they have the nerve to question why  death rates from this virus are higher in black and Hispanic areas of new York city than they are in the area of China where the virus actually started.

I appreciate how you're taking a fairly optimistic view, when it comes down to it. 

As for the guys who receive media messages as some sort of guiding light of truth, while immediately attacking everything else as "conspiracy", I don"t know what to say.  Makes me wonder what'll become of us if that mindset wins out.

[B_B_C]

I guess I wasn't clear enough.

Trump did say something stupid. But to me it sounded like he was inferring things and asking for confirmation from his advisers.

He did not explicitely say "you need to inject bleach" or something like that. He literally said "Is there a way we can do something like that?" before his comment about the desinfectant, and "it'd be interesting to check that" and "sounds interesting"afterwards. So that's what I think it's been taken out of context.

For the record, I'm not a Trump supporter.

any one for chlorinated chicken ?

[Teutonic Knight 1]

I can’t stand Trump.  And I am not even American.

Jealous of Melania 

[Big Karma]

Best way to describe it from a my position of observation around studies and data i have read, Mortality rate when data is confirmed  same as the flu, but the numbers need to be looked at separate to the flu, so if 650,000 die annually from the flu and they are mainly the old and vulnerable, potentially another similar number 650,000 could be expected from corona again from the same identified group , both deaths are usually from pneumonia or underlying health issues that the virus exacerbates , the common flu pneumonia being bacterial and corona viral pneumonia which looks to be a hell of a lot more labour intensive from health perspective, pushing up the need for more medical attention.

Th global economic shutdown is an over reaction and needs to be called out as one. Just another crisis for the climate change end of world types to hijack.

Interesting post, honest.

[illuminati]

Best way to describe it from a my position of observation around studies and data i have read, Mortality rate when data is confirmed  same as the flu, but the numbers need to be looked at separate to the flu, so if 650,000 die annually from the flu and they are mainly the old and vulnerable, potentially another similar number 650,000 could be expected from corona again from the same identified group , both deaths are usually from pneumonia or underlying health issues that the virus exacerbates , the common flu pneumonia being bacterial and corona viral pneumonia which looks to be a hell of a lot more labour intensive from health perspective, pushing up the need for more medical attention.

Th global economic shutdown is an over reaction and needs to be called out as one. Just another crisis for the climate change end of world types to hijack.

Very good post sir.

I’d also guess that China know more about this Virus than they’re telling anyone.

[kevin25]

 

[Primemuscle]

I can’t stand Trump.  And I am not even American.

I am American and I concur. 

[Primemuscle]

Jealous of Melania 

I doubt it.

[TheGrinch]

People dying of conditions having nothing to do with COVID because they can’t get medical attention when they need it…

https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-coronavirus-crisis-heart-stroke-153340811.html

And read the comments! So many medical professionals laid off, empty hospitals all over the country, doctors’ offices shut down everywhere…

My uncle can’t get in to see his doctor for his severe kidney pain because those offices are closed.

My elderly mom can’t get in to see her doctor either — and these are people who really need access to medical care.

Amazing how blind one has to be to believe that this is all done for public health.

[booty]

Jealous of Melania 

It’s got nothing to do with her. He’s a narcissist and incompetent. I am so glad he’s not our president.

[Hypertrophy]

Jealous of Melania 

Like we give a shit what an Aussie thinks of America. Screw off Booty.

[booty]

Like we give a shit what an Aussie thinks of America. Screw off Booty.

It’s a public forum. I strongly dislike Trump.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

I am adopted American and I concur.

fixed 

obw, any pics of you in the 3rd Reich 1945-1948 

[Teutonic Knight 1]

It’s got nothing to do with her. He’s a narcissist and incompetent. I am so glad he’s not our president.

Yeah, real "narcists" who donates his presidential salary !.

We don't have a president , we have very "competent" :

- Prime Minister on annual salary of $ 549 250

- Governor General on a/s of $ 425 000  (this guy can fire elected Aussie PM)

- Queen Elizabeth on a/s of  + $ 97 000 000

[visualizeperfection]

I can’t stand Trump.  And I am not even American.

Why?

[booty]

Why?

For many reasons.

[pellius]

It’s got nothing to do with her. He’s a narcissist and incompetent. I am so glad he’s not our president.

What would be a couple of examples of his incompetence? What he did and what he should have done?