Covid 19 - We are all screwed - discuss

[Kwon]

Donny, 34, died of Corona
https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/brookfield/2020/04/09/coronavirus-new-york-brookfield-parents-mourn-son-who-died/5121289002/


Chris Trousernake, 34, died of Corona
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/music/singer-actor-chris-trousdale-death-coronavirus-at-34-6442560/

[loco]

The points regarding the WHO and CDC means very little  to me as I stopped paying attention to them very early on.

It was very obvious from the start they were either full of BS or completely clueless (The former more likely than the latter). Remember they once claimed that there was no human to human transmission.

Masks can work if everyone wears them, but not everyone can or will wear them, so it's pointless and can even be detrimental if you're a healthy person. I stated a month back I wasn't wearing one.

The asymptomatic reporting has always been wrong so means nothing. The way the media reported things has most people confused between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread.

The WHO have actually always said asymptomatic spread is unlikely. It's the media that misled people on this one. They were labelling people spreading virus as asymptomatic during the few days before they went on to develop symptoms. They should have been calling them presymptomaic.

The bigger question is given the WHO have always said asymptomatic spread is likely rare, why is it suddenly making the news now and in this way.

WHO walks back statement on 'very rare' asymptomatic spread as infectious disease experts say it is 'not accurate'

Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, says that the statement left epidemiologists “scratching their heads” afterward. “We were all confused,” says Schaffner. “What’s clear is that they’ve made things less clear.”

He says WHO’s stating that asymptomatic spread is rare “undercuts” the organization’s earlier messages on the importance of masks. “When you translate science to the real world, you’ve got to adhere to the KISS admonition: keep it simple, stupid,” says Schaffner. “You’ve got to boil it down. If the messages get too nuanced, you create confusion. And that’s exactly what happened. If highly sophisticated infectious disease doctors were confused about the message, you can be sure that John and Jane were also confused.”

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/who-walks-back-statement-very-rare-asymptomatic-spread-infectious-disease-experts-not-accurate-193933330.html

[Thin Lizzy]

Same thing happened when a Fox host let the truth sneak out. The main stream fake news media immediately jumped in to cover it up:


Video misrepresents journalists’ comments in White House briefing room


https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8795340022

In the video, Mills greets Roberts. “What do you know, buddy?” Mills asks Roberts, who responds, “You can take off the mask, the case fatality rate is 0.1 to 0.3, according to USC.”

[Flexacon]

WHO walks back statement on 'very rare' asymptomatic spread as infectious disease experts say it is 'not accurate'

Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, says that the statement left epidemiologists “scratching their heads” afterward. “We were all confused,” says Schaffner. “What’s clear is that they’ve made things less clear.”

He says WHO’s stating that asymptomatic spread is rare “undercuts” the organization’s earlier messages on the importance of masks. “When you translate science to the real world, you’ve got to adhere to the KISS admonition: keep it simple, stupid,” says Schaffner. “You’ve got to boil it down. If the messages get too nuanced, you create confusion. And that’s exactly what happened. If highly sophisticated infectious disease doctors were confused about the message, you can be sure that John and Jane were also confused.”

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/who-walks-back-statement-very-rare-asymptomatic-spread-infectious-disease-experts-not-accurate-193933330.html

When are you lot gonna learn  You are falling for media spin and agendas. If I were to defend them I'd say they were only saying this to try protect people from themselves as most people seem unable to understand the difference between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread, so they are just trying to keep things simple.

However this is the WHO and as I  have said they have shown the can't be trusted and have their own agendas and puppet masters. Here is what they said over 2 months ago when there was no media spot light on this.

"An asymptomatic laboratory-confirmed  case is  a person  infected with COVID-19 who  does  not develop symptoms. Asymptomatic transmission refers to transmission of the virus from a person, who does not develop symptoms.There are few  reports of  laboratory-confirmed  cases who  are truly  asymptomatic, and  to date, there has been  no documented asymptomatic transmission. This does not exclude the possibility  that it may occur. Asymptomatic cases have been reported as part of contact tracing efforts in some countries.  WHO regularly monitors all emerging evidence about this critical topic and will provide an update as more information becomes available."

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=5ae25bc7_2

Try looking away from mainstream media and think for yourself if you want to understand the virus and the reality of the situation.

[loco]

When are you lot gonna learn  You are falling for media spin and agendas. If I were to defend them I'd say they were only saying this to try protect people from themselves as most people seem unable to understand the difference between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread, so they are just trying to keep things simple.

However this is the WHO and as I  have said they have shown the can't be trusted and have their own agendas and puppet masters. Here is what they said over 2 months ago when there was no media spot light on this.

"An asymptomatic laboratory-confirmed  case is  a person  infected with COVID-19 who  does  not develop symptoms. Asymptomatic transmission refers to transmission of the virus from a person, who does not develop symptoms.There are few  reports of  laboratory-confirmed  cases who  are truly  asymptomatic, and  to date, there has been  no documented asymptomatic transmission. This does not exclude the possibility  that it may occur. Asymptomatic cases have been reported as part of contact tracing efforts in some countries.  WHO regularly monitors all emerging evidence about this critical topic and will provide an update as more information becomes available."

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=5ae25bc7_2

Try looking away from mainstream media and think for yourself if you want to understand the virus and the reality of the situation.

You've missed my point yet again.

If you read all my posts in this and other threads regarding this pandemic, you'll see that I trust neither the MSM nor the WHO, which I believe are useless and corrupt.

Except for what you posted above about the WHO, it seemed up until now you believed them and were defending them.

[Flexacon]

You've missed my point yet again.

If you read all my posts in this and other threads regarding this pandemic, you'll see that I trust neither the MSM nor the WHO, which I believe are useless and corrupt.

Except for what you posted above about the WHO, it seemed up until now you believed them and were defending them.

Maybe cos you aren't actually making a point and keep missing my point and trying to engage me with WHO posts, when I clearly said the WHO are full of BS, but on the point of asymptomatic spread they had been consistent (until today, backing up my point that they are actually full of BS)

The points regarding the WHO and CDC means very little  to me as I stopped paying attention to them very early on.

It was very obvious from the start they were either full of BS or completely clueless (The former more likely than the latter). Remember they once claimed that there was no human to human transmission.

Masks can work if everyone wears them, but not everyone can or will wear them, so it's pointless and can even be detrimental if you're a healthy person. I stated a month back I wasn't wearing one.

The asymptomatic reporting has always been wrong so means nothing. The way the media reported things has most people confused between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread.

The WHO have actually always said asymptomatic spread is unlikely. It's the media that misled people on this one. They were labelling people spreading virus as asymptomatic during the few days before they went on to develop symptoms. They should have been calling them presymptomaic.

The bigger question is given the WHO have always said asymptomatic spread is likely rare, why is it suddenly making the news now and in this way.

[loco]

Maybe cos you aren't actually making a point and keep missing my point and trying to engage me with WHO posts, when I clearly said the WHO are full of BS, but on the point of asymptomatic spread they had been consistent (until today, backing up my point that they are actually full of BS)

I never did "engage" you.  You replied to my post below, defending the WHO.  If they can't be trusted, then who cares if they were consistent on anything until now?

That plus this from May 21.  What's next?  CDC and WHO say CORRECTION: "It's just the flu, bro."

Virus ‘does not spread easily’ from contaminated surfaces or animals, revised CDC website states

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/

[Flexacon]

I never did "engage" you.  You replied to my post below, defending the WHO.  If they can't be trusted, then who cares if they were consistent on anything until now?

It's one page back, surely it's not that had to check.

That plus this from May 21.  What's next?  CDC and WHO say CORRECTION: "It's just the flu, bro."

Virus ‘does not spread easily’ from contaminated surfaces or animals, revised CDC website states

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/

It will eventually be milder than seasonal flu.

But you don't want to sleep on this virus, it's not out for the count yet. It will catch it's second wind around October. Plenty of old people for it to still take out.

You missed my post.

The WHO is not saying now that "eventually" asymptomatic spread of coronavirus "will be" very rare.  They are saying now that it is rare, always has been, and that they were originally wrong about that.

The CDC is not saying now that "eventually" the virus "will not be" spread easily from contaminated surfaces or animals.   They are saying now that it is not spread easily from contaminated surfaces or animals, never was, and that they were wrong about that.

Same goes for "don't wear a face mask" to "you must wear a face mask" to "face masks aren't necessary."

I said nothing about the WHO until, you engaged me on it. I actually ignored the WHO stuff, until you asked me to check your post. Also I did not defend the WHO, I corrected misinformation.

Son, take a break and avoid making a bigger fool of yourself than you already have. Go clear your head as you're obviously not thinking straight.

[loco]

It's one page back, surely it's not that had to check.

I said nothing about the WHO until, you engaged me on it. I actually ignored the WHO stuff, until you asked me to check your post. Also I did not defend the WHO, I corrected misinformation.

Son, take a break and clear your head as you're obviously not thinking straight.

LOL   

Whatever you say, WHO apologist.

[Flexacon]

LOL   

Whatever you say, WHO apologist.

Apology accepted.

Still waiting for Armyofone to show some balls and post in here. He's owed a bitch slapping.

**Just so I can qoute this. Army will show his face as soon as there is a sign of a second with some BS like I told you.

[IroNat]

serious question - what do we call people who don't have it

Unsymptomatic non-spreaders?

[Flexacon]

serious question - what do we call people who don't have it

Susceptible

[Bindare_Dundat]

Are we all still screwed?

[joswift]

Are we all still screwed?

we have been screwed, its all over now though, might get a few more cases in the winter again, but its gone now

[illuminati]

we have been screwed, its all over now though, might get a few more cases in the winter again, but its gone now

We’re still getting screwed By MSM / Loopy Liberal Leftists / BLM PC Brigade Etc
It’s long overdue a Big war sort it out - It fucking mayhem out there now - Either that lot win or
Us Centre Right / Right wingers do - This ever increasing Bollocks is Ridiculous.

As For China Flu that was an almighty over Reaction to a Man Manipulated Virus. 

[joswift]

We’re still getting screwed By MSM / Loopy Liberal Leftists / BLM PC Brigade Etc
It’s long overdue a Big war sort it out - It fucking mayhem out there now - Either that lot win or
Us Centre Right / Right wingers do - This ever increasing Bollocks is Ridiculous.

As For China Flu that was an almighty over Reaction to a Man Manipulated Virus.

people who encourage the BLM movement will soon have them burning down their house..

[Primemuscle]

Well, thats something we may never know, one things for sure it this pandemic was a lot more than a virus.

They are now claiming the chances of passing the virus on if you are asymptomatic are very low indeed, which begs the question why bother locking down people with no symptoms?

One can hardly keep up with the claims. The WHO claimed those who are asymptomatic have little chance of passing on the virus. The claim made sense since the virus is supposedly airborne. The very next day, I read that the WHO was backing off that claim. There is a lot more speculation than knowledge in the information we are given.

[joswift]

One can hardly keep up with the claims. The WHO claimed those who are asymptomatic have little chance of passing on the virus. The claim made sense since the virus is supposedly airborne. The very next day, I read that the WHO was backing off that claim. There is a lot more speculation than knowledge in the information we are given.

Its best to use your own judgement and stop listening to the "experts"

[Primemuscle]

Let's suppose we've been trolled by the corona virus. For what reason then? Why the economies will shut down and everybody will loose alot of money?
The lockdown was not even so long to destroy small business. So why they'll make this virus up?

Who made the virus up? Nobody, that's who. The virus is real. Those folks that think the whole world is being conspired against should ask themselves, who has enough power over the entire planet to do that? Only God does as far as I can tell. Unless of course, it is some alien power who has yet to reveal themselves. 

[Primemuscle]

If by "they" you mean the WHO then they always made a point of asymptomatic spread being unlikely. It was certain parts of the media who have and are confusing the issue.

Also how do you know if you're an asymptomatic non spreader or presymptomatic spreader?

Unless everyone gets tested and retested on a regular basis, they cannot know that they are spreading the virus. This is why social distancing only works if everyone practices it.

[Primemuscle]

serious question - what do we call people who don't have it

Healthy.

[Primemuscle]

There have been trillions of dollars printed as a result of this. That’s not an opinion. It’s fact. Do you not think some of that money is going to the medical establishment?

Not sure why that makes a difference except that it helps pay for the financial cost the virus has on medical insurance coverage, hospitals and doctors. People who get sick and don't have medical insurance still get treated. 

[illuminati]

people who encourage the BLM movement will soon have them burning down their house..

Ha ha - Yes that’s one of the Few Positives about it.

[Primemuscle]

Bodybuilder with Covid-19
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-birmingham-52651620/coronavirus-birmingham-bodybuilder-s-road-to-recovery

Good for you. Getbig is after all a bodybuilding and fitness forum.

[Primemuscle]

You've missed my point yet again.

If you read all my posts in this and other threads regarding this pandemic, you'll see that I trust neither the MSM nor the WHO, which I believe are useless and corrupt.

Except for what you posted above about the WHO, it seemed up until now you believed them and were defending them.

Who do you trust? Do you trust conspiracy theorist on an internet board?