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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #100 on: March 10, 2020, 11:43:36 PM »
Around the turn of the century I worked out at Gold's Gym Hollywood.

On occasion one of the bros used to come in to workout.  From reading this thread it must have been Peter.

The guy always wore the same clothes:  long sleeve flannel shirt, tight blue jeans, and heavy workboots.

He had long hair which covered most of his face.  But, in looking at his face, it looked odd, like something was wrong.  It also looked like there was a lot of heavy make-up on it.

All-in-all, he struck me as being mega weird.  Way too weird to even speak to.  Which I never did.

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« Reply #101 on: March 11, 2020, 06:16:53 AM »


Here's an example of his rant...
(Only 1 paragraph out of about 5)

HOPE THIS LETTER TO LETTER!! HELPS ALL OF YOU !! WE REALLY DO! ME DP AND PT AND GT!! NO MATTER HOW SURREAL WHY RUN FROM THIS BEYOND SURREAL REAL-IT-T! BUT FOR IT YOU HAVE TO LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE G FOR COME -KING HERE HEAR WITH BLATANT OBVIOUS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND TAKE A MEGA HUGE GIGANTIC LOVE-KING INTEREST! COME ON NOW!! WHO DONT WANT TO SEE FEEL AND HEAR GOD! NO MATTER HOW SURREAL! JUMP INTO A HUMANS SKIN ALL THEE WAY FROM HEAVEN. AND TELL US ALL IN FUNNY ASZZZ WAYS WHERE WE COME FROM WHERE WE GO WHAT WE DO THERE WHAT WE LOOK LIKE THERE . HOW LONG WE STAY THERE. WHAT IF UR MEAN DOWN HERE! AND DONT PASS UR LIFETIME TEST VS IF YOU DO!! WHY GOD HAD TO COME IN THIS BEYOND DISGUSTING PLANET EMERGENCY!! ETC ETC ETC. SO FOR THOSE IGNORE-KING THEE ONE AND ONLY ALL MORAL BLATANT OBVIOUS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE GOD ALL MIGHT T GO ON YOU TUBE “GOD THRU PETER PALPIN” START WITH “THE 1&ONLY LION KING!” OR IS IT ON THERE AS THE ONE AND ONLY LION KING” WE GAVE THAT TO ATHEISTS IN RHODE ISLAND TWO GIRLS!! NOT MAD JUST A MATTER OF FACTLY, “OK FINE!! HERE IS A DVD! PLEASE WATCH IT AND NEXT TIME WE SEE YOU TELL US WHAT YOU THINK!! ONLY ONE OF 100’S OF GOD ALL MIGHT T REAL TIME HUMANLY impoSible MOVE-THEES! SO A FEW DAYS LATER WE BUMPED INTO THEM!! AND WAS SAID, “SO WHAT DID YOU THINK?” AND BOTH SAID ITS FUCK-KING OBVIOUS GOD IS ENTERING U FROM HEAVEN” AND ME PETER THATS ALL I REMEMBER AND I WAS SO HAPPY. CUZ THEY GOT IT IN JUST ONE! NOT EVEN TONS!! BUT THEY ARE ALL VERY FUN NO ONE IS NEAR AS FUNNY OR ENTER-TAIN-KING AS G!! IT FUCK-KING AINT ME NOT ONE SINGLE FRAME EVEN WHEN YOU JUST SEE ME STAND-ING THERE OR WALKING THE NOT HUMANLY impoSible STuff!! SO START TRY-KING TO GIVE THE LIGHT 30 MINUTES A NIGHT! WHY NOT! WHY WOULD ANY ONE NOT WANT TO WATCH ALL THEY CAN OF GOD THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU. ENTER SOME ONES SKIN AND TALK TO US!FUCK ITS AMAZING!! FUNNY!! SO SO SO BEYOND SURREAL INTERESTING!! WHAT BETTER FAKE NEWS!! LOL AS †RUMP WOOD SAY!! IN OTHER WORDS FAKE GOD STORYS LIKE BRUCE ALL MIGHT T THAT MADE BILLIONS FOR UNIVERSAL NBC MAYBE THATS WHY THEY HATE WE SO MUCH! OR IS IT JUST PURE WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT!!

Maybe he's on to something and we're the dumb ones? He's been ranting about the exact same thing for 11+ years now


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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #102 on: March 11, 2020, 06:22:24 AM »
 6 reps.  it was most likely david you seen in golds. peter hadnt been in a gym in years . i used to see david in there often. he was approachable and actually very friendly. but yes he wore the same type of outfit in there all the time. was lean not huge anymore ., he was more into photography

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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #103 on: March 11, 2020, 06:32:15 AM »


Maybe he's on to something and we're the dumb ones? He's been ranting about the exact same thing for 11+ years now



this is called word salad...might be pointing to schizophrenia
 

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« Reply #104 on: March 11, 2020, 06:54:50 AM »
Here's an example of his rant...
(Only 1 paragraph out of about 5)

HOPE THIS LETTER TO LETTER!! HELPS ALL OF YOU !! WE REALLY DO! ME DP AND PT AND GT!! NO MATTER HOW SURREAL WHY RUN FROM THIS BEYOND SURREAL REAL-IT-T! BUT FOR IT YOU HAVE TO LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE G FOR COME -KING HERE HEAR WITH BLATANT OBVIOUS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND TAKE A MEGA HUGE GIGANTIC LOVE-KING INTEREST! COME ON NOW!! WHO DONT WANT TO SEE FEEL AND HEAR GOD! NO MATTER HOW SURREAL! JUMP INTO A HUMANS SKIN ALL THEE WAY FROM HEAVEN. AND TELL US ALL IN FUNNY ASZZZ WAYS WHERE WE COME FROM WHERE WE GO WHAT WE DO THERE WHAT WE LOOK LIKE THERE . HOW LONG WE STAY THERE. WHAT IF UR MEAN DOWN HERE! AND DONT PASS UR LIFETIME TEST VS IF YOU DO!! WHY GOD HAD TO COME IN THIS BEYOND DISGUSTING PLANET EMERGENCY!! ETC ETC ETC. SO FOR THOSE IGNORE-KING THEE ONE AND ONLY ALL MORAL BLATANT OBVIOUS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE GOD ALL MIGHT T GO ON YOU TUBE “GOD THRU PETER PALPIN” START WITH “THE 1&ONLY LION KING!” OR IS IT ON THERE AS THE ONE AND ONLY LION KING” WE GAVE THAT TO ATHEISTS IN RHODE ISLAND TWO GIRLS!! NOT MAD JUST A MATTER OF FACTLY, “OK FINE!! HERE IS A DVD! PLEASE WATCH IT AND NEXT TIME WE SEE YOU TELL US WHAT YOU THINK!! ONLY ONE OF 100’S OF GOD ALL MIGHT T REAL TIME HUMANLY impoSible MOVE-THEES! SO A FEW DAYS LATER WE BUMPED INTO THEM!! AND WAS SAID, “SO WHAT DID YOU THINK?” AND BOTH SAID ITS FUCK-KING OBVIOUS GOD IS ENTERING U FROM HEAVEN” AND ME PETER THATS ALL I REMEMBER AND I WAS SO HAPPY. CUZ THEY GOT IT IN JUST ONE! NOT EVEN TONS!! BUT THEY ARE ALL VERY FUN NO ONE IS NEAR AS FUNNY OR ENTER-TAIN-KING AS G!! IT FUCK-KING AINT ME NOT ONE SINGLE FRAME EVEN WHEN YOU JUST SEE ME STAND-ING THERE OR WALKING THE NOT HUMANLY impoSible STuff!! SO START TRY-KING TO GIVE THE LIGHT 30 MINUTES A NIGHT! WHY NOT! WHY WOULD ANY ONE NOT WANT TO WATCH ALL THEY CAN OF GOD THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU. ENTER SOME ONES SKIN AND TALK TO US!FUCK ITS AMAZING!! FUNNY!! SO SO SO BEYOND SURREAL INTERESTING!! WHAT BETTER FAKE NEWS!! LOL AS †RUMP WOOD SAY!! IN OTHER WORDS FAKE GOD STORYS LIKE BRUCE ALL MIGHT T THAT MADE BILLIONS FOR UNIVERSAL NBC MAYBE THATS WHY THEY HATE WE SO MUCH! OR IS IT JUST PURE WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT!!
This is some whacky stuff wtf

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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2020, 07:00:10 AM »
Around the turn of the century I worked out at Gold's Gym Hollywood.

On occasion one of the bros used to come in to workout.  From reading this thread it must have been Peter.

The guy always wore the same clothes:  long sleeve flannel shirt, tight blue jeans, and heavy workboots.

He had long hair which covered most of his face.  But, in looking at his face, it looked odd, like something was wrong.  It also looked like there was a lot of heavy make-up on it.

All-in-all, he struck me as being mega weird.  Way too weird to even speak to.  Which I never did.
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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2020, 07:02:07 AM »
I am expecting a Mentzer brother situation in the next few days.
Dude...wtf...

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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2020, 08:17:18 AM »
this is called word salad...might be pointing to schizophrenia
 

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« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2020, 09:20:49 AM »
As said, I have spent time with both.

My best memory is sitting with David out back Gold’s Venice in his car. His GIANT dog was in the back seat and he was slobbering all over the back of my head as David jammed him and his brothers’ latest music on the stereo.

That one song, “War With the Weights”, was among them.

David was literally singing/screaming along, fists clenched ... “War ... with .. the weights!”

(Or sitting in a restaurant and they were trying to mix a protein shake with a portable mixer they’d built. Kid you not, protein powder was flying everywhere and they were howling just like they’d do it their movies. It WAS NOT an act. I was just sitting there, thinking, This is AWESOME!)

They were hilarious guys. But clearly David was the more “with it” of the two.

To me, it’s painfully obvious Peter’s (I believe some used to call him Pee Wee, as he was the smaller of the two) situation is legitimate mental illness. It’s not an act. He’s gone off his rocker.

As others say, I, too, imagine he will sink even deeper now that David’s gone.

Totally sucks.

They treated me very well the times we hung and were colourful, beyond funny and, yes, intelligent (in their own way).

At one time they were seriously impressive physical specimens, as well.




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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #109 on: March 11, 2020, 09:44:45 AM »
Dude...wtf...
Dude.....it's what I expect....not what I wish to happen.....Dude.

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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #110 on: March 11, 2020, 09:51:09 AM »
As said, I have spent time with both.

My best memory is sitting with David out back Gold’s Venice in his car. His GIANT dog was in the back seat and he was slobbering all over the back of my head as David jammed him and his brothers’ latest music on the stereo.

That one song, “War With the Weights”, was among them.

David was literally singing/screaming along, fists clenched ... “War ... with .. the weights!”

(Or sitting in a restaurant and they were trying to mix a protein shake with a portable mixer they’d built. Kid you not, protein powder was flying everywhere and they were howling just like they’d do it their movies. It WAS NOT an act. I was just sitting there, thinking, This is AWESOME!)

They were hilarious guys. But clearly David was the more “with it” of the two.

To me, it’s painfully obvious Peter’s (I believe some used to call him Pee Wee, as he was the smaller of the two) situation is legitimate mental illness. It’s not an act. He’s gone off his rocker.

As others say, I, too, imagine he will sink even deeper now that David’s gone.

Totally sucks.

They treated me very well the times we hung and were colourful, beyond funny and, yes, intelligent (in their own way).

At one time they were seriously impressive physical specimens, as well.




I read all your posts word for word with respect,love those stories.

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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #111 on: March 11, 2020, 09:56:00 AM »
this is called word salad...might be pointing to schizophrenia
 

You are correct. As someone who is trained in psychology (among other things), yes, this is a very common symptom in what we would call classic schizophrenia. The rhyming, the absolute belief in messages from God etc, combined with a total detachment from reality. Hard to know if he also had an paranoid or depressive aspect (I suspect he did). And I am pretty sure it was worsened by use of drugs (most likely simply marijuana). Some would say meth for sure, but cannabis induced schizophrenia can actually produce truly manic and prolonged energetic bursts that can last for many weeks on end.

So yes, that is my diagnosis, and it seems very very obvious to me from the video clips and the rants posted here.

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« Reply #112 on: March 11, 2020, 10:10:47 AM »
FORTRESS, I've also spent some time with David and Peter and first met them when they joined Gold's in the Santa Monica location which I think that Ken Sprague owned at that time.

Years later we were at the present day Gold's location and  Peter asked me to go on a search for Grymkowski because he was worried that Peter was not feeling well due to some serious ailment.

So the search began and after knocking on a number of doors .... we eventually ended up at some restaurant similar to the old bodybuilding hangout called Zucky's where we found Peter in a deep discussion over lunch with a doctor from South America.

We joined in the 20 minute conversation and once that Peter was assured that Pete G. was well and in good hands ... we departed and headed back to Gold's .... but Peter wanted to stop  in the vicinity of the original Santa Monica Muscle Beach location and take a short stroll down the beach-walk.

Then he asked me if I realize that he/they had made a recording ... and I said, "Nope!".

And as soon as I said, "Nope!' .... he started singing.Very Loudly!

And a decent size crowd gathered around and gave him a loud ovation when he was done.

And then we headed back to Gold's, but before I departed .. he gave me a copy of that record which I eventually listened to ... and was damn impressed, but somehow it got losted!

I believe I may have mentioned this many years ago on this board, but Keith who was a close friend with each of them would often complain about not receiving return phone calls from one of them and once said that it was a dip-lep-sia problem. (I have no idea what that is .... and can't even spell it correctly.)

Peter G. once said that the best thing he ever did at Gold's (SM location) was .... placing a wooden bench inside the gym right in front of the window ..... as people would come in and sit on that bench and watch the "Barbarian brothers" and many  other crazy, hard-core lifters .... and then leave after buying a Gold's Gym T-shirt.

And ... back then ... it was those T-shirt sales which kept the gym in business.

FORTRESS .... Do you have a copy of that recording mentioned above? Or are you aware of some sort of puppet on a string that one of the bros sold to Disney? (I forgot that story long ago.)

Great memories of those good old days when the world knew just about nothing that was bodybuilding related.

Back in them good old days, I would run into the brothers frequently and it was always a memorial experience.





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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #113 on: March 11, 2020, 10:50:48 AM »
FORTRESS, I've also spent some time with David and Peter and first met them when they joined Gold's in the Santa Monica location which I think that Ken Sprague owned at that time.

Years later we were at the present day Gold's location and  Peter asked me to go on a search for Grymkowski because he was worried that Peter was not feeling well due to some serious ailment.

So the search began and after knocking on a number of doors .... we eventually ended up at some restaurant similar to the old bodybuilding hangout called Zucky's where we found Peter in a deep discussion over lunch with a doctor from South America.

We joined in the 20 minute conversation and once that Peter was assured that Pete G. was well and in good hands ... we departed and headed back to Gold's .... but Peter wanted to stop  in the vicinity of the original Santa Monica Muscle Beach location and take a short stroll down the beach-walk.

Then he asked me if I realize that he/they had made a recording ... and I said, "Nope!".

And as soon as I said, "Nope!' .... he started singing.Very Loudly!

And a decent size crowd gathered around and gave him a loud ovation when he was done.

And then we headed back to Gold's, but before I departed .. he gave me a copy of that record which I eventually listened to ... and was damn impressed, but somehow it got losted!

I believe I may have mentioned this many years ago on this board, but Keith who was a close friend with each of them would often complain about not receiving return phone calls from one of them and once said that it was a dip-lep-sia problem. (I have no idea what that is .... and can't even spell it correctly.)

Peter G. once said that the best thing he ever did at Gold's (SM location) was .... placing a wooden bench inside the gym right in front of the window ..... as people would come in and sit on that bench and watch the "Barbarian brothers" and many  other crazy, hard-core lifters .... and then leave after buying a Gold's Gym T-shirt.

And ... back then ... it was those T-shirt sales which kept the gym in business.

FORTRESS .... Do you have a copy of that recording mentioned above? Or are you aware of some sort of puppet on a string that one of the bros sold to Disney? (I forgot that story long ago.)

Great memories of those good old days when the world knew just about nothing that was bodybuilding related.

Back in them good old days, I would run into the brothers frequently and it was always a memorial experience.







possibly dyslexia

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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #114 on: March 11, 2020, 11:01:05 AM »

possibly dyslexia

Yeah, in the article I linked, it mentioned both brothers had problems with dyslexia, David terribly so -

 "I couldn’t read for the first three years of school. So, I got teased a lot. So I took everything else physically. They didn’t know what was wrong with me. I had no hand/eye coordination. I couldn’t read. They put me in school with the retarded kids. In New York, they sent me to these doctors who said that I had the worst case of dyslexia they’d ever seen on the East Coast. So who knows what it really was. Peter didn’t have it as bad. He stayed in public school and got kicked out in 3rd grade. I couldn’t read a word. I went to this Catholic school where there were only five kids in the class. I had nuns for teachers. It was really good for me. There was only English and math. That’s it. No history and all that stuff. I didn’t miss out. I don’t know where anything is on the map, but I never used that anyway. (Laughing.) My mother understood my disability, so she just pushed me towards the arts. I spent a lot of time in art galleries. She got me a camera at 13, and I’d develop pictures in the basement. I was always doing art, building shit. I had a mother who understood."

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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #115 on: March 11, 2020, 11:10:38 AM »
How will Peter take this?


Will he manage?


Do you have any contact with him?

Brother I haven't seen Peter in five years.  Last time we spoke was at Golds Vencie 2015-ish and he was totally incoherent. He literally tied a sweatshirt around his head and walked east on Sunset Ave. towards Linclon Blvd. I never saw him again.
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« Reply #116 on: March 11, 2020, 12:41:32 PM »
You are correct. As someone who is trained in psychology (among other things), yes, this is a very common symptom in what we would call classic schizophrenia. The rhyming, the absolute belief in messages from God etc, combined with a total detachment from reality. Hard to know if he also had an paranoid or depressive aspect (I suspect he did). And I am pretty sure it was worsened by use of drugs (most likely simply marijuana). Some would say meth for sure, but cannabis induced schizophrenia can actually produce truly manic and prolonged energetic bursts that can last for many weeks on end.

So yes, that is my diagnosis, and it seems very very obvious to me from the video clips and the rants posted here.


Wow Abdulah, U have shrinks qualifications too  :o, + financial & biohazards "expertise" ................


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« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2020, 02:50:41 PM »

Wow Abdulah, U have shrinks qualifications too  :o, + financial & biohazards "expertise" ................



Of Course he has - He’s a Getbigger & Has everything & Knows Everyone & Everything To Know.

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Re: RIP David Paul
« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2020, 05:25:14 PM »

the reason why he did not stick with bodybuilding is that he'd be dead at 52 instead of 62. He made the right choice.

No!

Why didn't he continue to take photos of bodybuilders? He had talent and vision with photography.


What about the story that Mike Christian walked over to one of them and slapped him in the face? Anyone remember that one?




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« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2020, 05:51:37 PM »

Wow Abdulah, U have shrinks qualifications too  :o, + financial & biohazards "expertise" ................



Correct - medical science and finance are some of my key areas of my expertise. Never worked as a psychiatrist, but am qualified.

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« Reply #120 on: March 11, 2020, 06:06:27 PM »
Correct - medical science and finance are some of my key areas of my expertise. Never worked as a psychiatrist, but am qualified.

Have U ever been Commander in Chief of Somalian armed forces  !.

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« Reply #121 on: March 11, 2020, 09:14:16 PM »
Have U ever been Commander in Chief of Somalian armed forces  !.

Silly question. Ask sensible questions though and I will answer.

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Re: RIP David Paul - Barbarian Brother
« Reply #122 on: March 11, 2020, 09:19:10 PM »
Did Peter say that David’s Dog “Cowboy” recently passed away?

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« Reply #123 on: March 11, 2020, 09:44:21 PM »
Did Peter say that David’s Dog “Cowboy” recently passed away?

Yes, Peter said he need to be put to sleep because of some sort of sickness, and that David was stressed out and really sad because of it. I'm pretty sure the dog passed after David. It's a bit hard to read through Peter's posts.

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« Reply #124 on: March 12, 2020, 01:47:40 AM »
Correct - medical science and finance are some of my key areas of my expertise. Never worked as a psychiatrist, but am qualified.

You said psychology before. Which is not the same as psychiatry. Psychology is more of a pseudoscience. Which is it?