Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.

[Al-Gebra]

Enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Who gives a rats arse if its real or fake, He still looks like shit.

You can come out of the closet now.

[snatch_clean]

They aren't full reps, which makes a huge difference in how much weight you can use. It is impossible to compare lifts performed with a different range of motion.

Anyone with a high 500's bench could probably press around 400 behind the neck if they trained for it. Even Ed Coan supposedly did a 400 BNP.

Serge Redding (Vasily Alexeev's brides maid) reputedly did 2 full reps @ 180 kg in behind the neck seated press (full ROM). Since then records have progressed. The clean and jerk WR was pegged around 525lbs (when Alexeev retired it had climbed to over 550lbs but I am talking about the time when Redding was competing). Currently the WR stands at 580lbs (approx after converting from kg). Roughly 10% increase. Assuming a BNT press was trained the WR today might be around 220kg = 490lbs (20 kg for the fact that if it was trained as a main lift rather than an accessory and another 20 to account for the progress in 25 years.  220kg= 485 lbs (approx). In other words this guy is pressing a weight that is olympic gold-worthy.

Except that no one knows how real the weights are, he is untested, his ROM is not complete.

[Dnizneer]

You can come out of the closet now.

Shouldn't I let your mom get dressed first

[Al-Gebra]

Currently the WR stands at 578lbs (approx after converting from kg).

Try again. Taranenko had done over 585 lbs.

[brianX]

Once again, they aren't full reps. Lots of people can do partial reps with extremely heavy weight. He's very strong, but there is no way he can do full reps with that weight. Look at how high the pins are set.

[alexxx]

Once again, they aren't full reps. Lots of people can do partial reps with extremely heavy weight. He's very strong, but there is no way he can do full reps with that weight. Look at how high the pins are set.

Imbecile those are full reps! You don't actually go all the way down on  behind the neck presses. Just goes to show that you never lifted anything heavy in your life you ab shooter!

[Dingleberry]

actually, it's been determined in another thread that Brian is a glute-shooter.

[alexxx]

actually, it's been determined in another thread that Brian is a glute-shooter.

lol that explains it

[tommywishbone]

I'd like to see the entire seated-behind-the-neck-press workout. I'm guessing the entire rep & set scheme would be:

1 x 12 x 135 lbs
1 x 8  x  225 lbs
1 x 8  x  315 lbs
1 x 6  x  365 lbs
1 x 6  x  405 lbs
3 x 5  x  484 lbs
2 x 15 x 225 lbs 

I'd pay $20 for that DVD alone.

[brianX]

Imbecile those are full reps! You don't actually go all the way down on  behind the neck presses. Just goes to show that you never lifted anything heavy in your life you ab shooter!

 
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidAnterior/BBBehindNeckPress.html

[alexxx]

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidAnterior/BBBehindNeckPress.html

lol you been following al simmons workout tapes?

[snatch_clean]

Try again. Taranenko had done over 585 lbs.

Correct, the biggest official clean and jerk is Leonid Taranenko's 266 kg (I hate converting into pounds because everyone uses a slightly different conversion factor, I use the usual 2.2*value_in_kg=value_in_lbs) roughly 585lbs. However it isnt a official world record. When the IWF reclassified the weight classes after the embarrasing 1988 Games where everyone and his mother tested positive, the old "drug-tainted" world records lapsed out. A world standard was applied which is what happens when a new weight class is created or reclassified and anyone breaking the standard is given the highest honors. Currently Rezazadeh is 0wns the record with 263.5 kg in the C&J, about 580 lbs. He is easily stronger than Taranenko. The current testing is incredibly rigorous (all medalists tested after each meet, random unscheduled testing throughout the year). In addition there is the new retroactive testing procedures. Some of the urine is stored for future more advanced tests to catch any designer drugs that might previously have escaped undetected. Syzmon Kolecki was caught in this manner. I believe all the IWF athletes are clean (for practical purposes). While they might not have been lifetime naturals they do not have the liberty of juicing with impunity.

[onlyme]

No matter what that is allot of weight.  As to having fake weights.  I think the use of fake weights was biiger back in the 70's and 80's when really all there was was photos.  Easier to fake.  I know they are still used today but for a guy of this size and he is a huge huge dude to use fake weights and post it on the internet would just take away from whatever aura he may have as being a strong and huge guy.  That would put him in a position with fellow gym members friends and such that he is a fake bigtime.  I think this guy s just strong as hell.  I also think my opinion is allot different from others and I am so open to believing this kind of lift because I do see so many strong guys lift all the time. I mean if you come here and watch people at Gold's either here or in Honolulu you are going to see guys lift incredible weight all day long.  Seeing a guy over 400 at most gyms would stop everyone.  Here it is nothing.  Even guys doing 500 doesn't cause much more than a quick glance. We got guys here under 200 benching 500 all the time.  A guy weighing under 150 benches over 400 here.  I admit this guy does this very easy and it looks unreal but I have to keep an open mind and think it's real.  I do know one thing the guy has the back and shoulders to it.

And I do not consider those full reps.  His extension is fine but when I do BNP I go all the down and in fact rest the bar on my shoulders for a full second and more then press.  Not everyone does it this way.  And in fact 90% of the guys I train with and have seen only go down just below the head.  I just like to get a full stretch and people seem to enjoy watching me press from a dead stop 315 for reps.

[onlyme]

And everytime a lift like thiscomes up it reminds me of Joe Onasai on live TV on the news here doing 500 BNP for reps, no spotter on a regular BNP bench.  I wish I could get a video of it.  You guys would freak out.  At 6'5 460 pounds he made it look like candy

[Dingleberry]

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidAnterior/BBBehindNeckPress.html

That type of range is fine if you're lifting for reps, but no one in their right mind goes that deep with heavy weight. You would completely destroy your shoulders.

[alexxx]

That type of range is fine if you're lifting for reps, but no one in their right mind goes that deep with heavy weight. You would completely destroy your shoulders.

Watch out Onlyme gonna post a picture of the barbarian brothers!

[onlyme]

I think thew range of motion is all relative.  What I might think is lighter weight and do full reps others may think is heavy weight and can't do full reps.  I personally won't do a heavyweight even once unless I know I can go down all the way.  I just won't even try it. I used tohave guys work in with me and try to do what I am doing but only go up and down half way.  I would get so pissed off at these guys.  Then they would go around telling people they lift with me.

I don't have that pic.

[alexxx]

....ok well here it is

[tommywishbone]

I wish that pic were a little lower so we could see David's calves.

[Dingleberry]

....ok well here it is

LOL.

Seriously though, I'm not talking about half or quarter reps. I go down to the bottom of my ears with the bar, any further and I am out of the natural range of motion and just asking for something to rip.  If you choose to go deeper, that's cool. I'm just not going to risk a shoulder injury for a couple more inches.

[Petrucci]

if that video is legit, so thats a f*cking brutal BNP with extremely monster weights!!!!!
the guy is a BEAST!
 i can only dream to have that kind of strenght one day...

[HERACLES]

you lost all credibility in that post..

Exxactly..

It cant be real. Tha tlooked entirely TOO EASY. SO how much can he really press, if he was getting those so easily, and no spotter?

Definately foney baloney.

But cool 

[LuciusFox]

Exxactly..

It cant be real. Tha tlooked entirely TOO EASY. SO how much can he really press, if he was getting those so easily, and no spotter?

Definately foney baloney.

But cool 

 I can't believe the thread is this long when it is obviously fake

[kyomu]

I think thew range of motion is all relative.  What I might think is lighter weight and do full reps others may think is heavy weight and can't do full reps.  I personally won't do a heavyweight even once unless I know I can go down all the way.  I just won't even try it. I used tohave guys work in with me and try to do what I am doing but only go up and down half way.  I would get so pissed off at these guys.  Then they would go around telling people they lift with me.

I don't have that pic.

Mmmmmmm.....As always,Onlyme is showing his long long experience in this sports. Me my self,I have been in this sports 15 years and i have seen many incredible natural monster who dont care bodybuilding nor powerlifting and they eat junk food everyday and thats all.. But Ogawa has been always standing out in my mind.

[kyomu]

By the way, I want somebody(Ex:Ronnie,Mgnus...etc) challenge him in his Gym.Because, He dont like to travel by now.