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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2020, 01:18:52 AM »
I guess you have never run a business.

I guess you rather people die then.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2020, 01:25:19 AM »

Train outside, there must be good Outdoor gym close to you . Pullups,dips,pushups & pistols can replace everything else.Bad luck for fat/heavy guys

who can't do bodyweights . Salty air kills germs + you live in tropics  8)


There are no outdoor gyms in my area or anywhere that I know of. Even if there is, you still would not be able to use them. I'm sure Coach would be at the outdoor gym in Venice if he could.

Of course, I adapt. I'm using the same equipment: dumbbells, bands (which are great) and bodyweight exercises, that I used when I was stuck at home during my knee replacement recovery. But this is all just fill in stuff and can't replace a decent equipped gym.

I bought three boxes of these bands. You can combine them to get some decent weight.
I also got a couple of these pull-up bars, one on the top and one of the bottom. You can do decent upper body movements with good resistance. If you stack enough bands (remember
I bought three boxes) you can even do some challenging stiff leg deads. For legs, I'm trying out Coach's 100 rep routine. I still can't do 100 reps of bodyweight squats so it's challenging for me.



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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2020, 01:39:37 AM »
I guess you rather people die then.


Oh brother. Really? Are you one of these "if we could save only one life" then it all would be worth it? How many people die from communicable diseases every year? Think of all the lives we could save if we permanently close all businesses permanently?
(Not taking into account all the lives lost and ruined due to not being able to support themselves and their families).

An adult who has some experience in life realizes there are always trade-offs in life. And often it's not between good and bad but between bad and worse. If personal safety is your number one concern in life then you can cower in your man cave for the rest of your life if you have someone else that will support you.

The survival rate of the coronavirus is over 99%. The number of people with the virus currently here in Hawaii 1/100th of one percent. Say that number goes up to ten times that amount that is still less than than a fraction of one percent. The chances of a healthy person dying from it is minuscule. The chances of you catching it here in Hawaii is even far less likely.

I'll take my chances and be responsible for my own protection and take the appropriate protection strategies.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2020, 01:49:50 AM »
Oh brother. Really? Are you one of these "if we could save only one life" then it all would be worth it? How many people die from communicable diseases every year? Think of all the lives we could save if we permanently close all businesses permanently?
(Not taking into account all the lives lost and ruined due to not being able to support themselves and their families).

An adult who has some experience in life realizes there are always trade-offs in life. And often it's not between good and bad but between bad and worse. If personal safety is your number one concern in life then you can cower in your man cave for the rest of your life if you have someone else that will support you.

The survival rate of the coronavirus is over 99%. The number of people with the virus currently here in Hawaii 1/100th of one percent. Say that number goes up to ten times that amount that is still less than than a fraction of one percent. The chances of a healthy person dying from it is minuscule. The chances of you catching it here in Hawaii is even far less likely.

I'll take my chances and be responsible for my own protection and take the appropriate protection strategies.

How old are you?

Hopefully young for your own sake.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2020, 02:33:50 AM »
How old are you?

Hopefully young for your own sake.

How old are you and do you still have a job?

It really doesn't matter because it wouldn't change my response because this illustrates the divide in this country and a person's world view. You have people on one side that likes to be told what to do and be controlled and taken care of by the government (which never works out) then you have the other group that believes in personal responsibility and prefers to make decisions for his own life. I weight the odds and make an educated decision that is not based on fear. I was in Walmart today and every single person that entered that store wiped their hands and cart with those sanitizer wipes the store provides. The vast majority had face masks and or some kind of covering on their face. Beginning next week Walmart is going to limit the amount of people allowed into the store at one time. People's behavior has changed and they kept their distance. Even standing in line people kept their distance from each other. People like never before protect themselves from all diseases which in turn protects others. It is unprecedented in history that people from all walks of life have taken such dramatic changes in their behavior and personal hygiene. We are safer than ever from all communicable diseases than ever before. The people working at that store are in far more danger than I am but still they are there. Do you think they should stay home, too? That the much more substantial risks to their health are not as important to you so that people like you can shop and get the stuff you need?

Not everybody lives their lives based on fear and I take the necessary precautions to limit my risks such as wearing face masks, and always keeping my hands clean and not touching my face. I am also very aware of my surroundings and keep my distance from other people.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2020, 03:14:10 AM »
Oh brother. Really? Are you one of these "if we could save only one life" then it all would be worth it? How many people die from communicable diseases every year? Think of all the lives we could save if we permanently close all businesses permanently?
(Not taking into account all the lives lost and ruined due to not being able to support themselves and their families).

An adult who has some experience in life realizes there are always trade-offs in life. And often it's not between good and bad but between bad and worse. If personal safety is your number one concern in life then you can cower in your man cave for the rest of your life if you have someone else that will support you.

The survival rate of the coronavirus is over 99%. The number of people with the virus currently here in Hawaii 1/100th of one percent. Say that number goes up to ten times that amount that is still less than than a fraction of one percent. The chances of a healthy person dying from it is minuscule. The chances of you catching it here in Hawaii is even far less likely.

I'll take my chances and be responsible for my own protection and take the appropriate protection strategies.

Well said^

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2020, 03:19:58 AM »
Well said^

I forgot to mention that only three people thus far have died. Two were elderly and had preexisting conditions and one of them was not from Hawaii but came from the mainland. Three people out of a population of almost a million.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2020, 03:21:27 AM »
How old are you and do you still have a job?

It really doesn't matter because it wouldn't change my response because this illustrates the divide in this country and a person's world view. You have people on one side that likes to be told what to do and be controlled and taken care of by the government (which never works out) then you have the other group that believes in personal responsibility and prefers to make decisions for his own life. I weight the odds and make an educated decision that is not based on fear. I was in Walmart today and every single person that entered that store wiped their hands and cart with those sanitizer wipes the store provides. The vast majority had face masks and or some kind of covering on their face. Beginning next week Walmart is going to limit the amount of people allowed into the store at one time. People's behavior has changed and they kept their distance. Even standing in line people kept their distance from each other. People like never before protect themselves from all diseases which in turn protects others. It is unprecedented in history that people from all walks of life have taken such dramatic changes in their behavior and personal hygiene. We are safer than ever from all communicable diseases than ever before. The people working at that store are in far more danger than I am but still they are there. Do you think they should stay home, too? That the much more substantial risks to their health are not as important to you so that people like you can shop and get the stuff you need?

Not everybody lives their lives based on fear and I take the necessary precautions to limit my risks such as wearing face masks, and always keeping my hands clean and not touching my face. I am also very aware of my surroundings and keep my distance from other people.

So, all these experts in the medical field and Dr Fauci are all wrong to panic? It’s just all a hoax, an agenda and they are just exaggerating the extent of all this? I mean people do everyday die from illnesses, right?

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2020, 03:54:04 AM »
Kenneth Cooper?? Lol...he was debunked years ago. You look at a marathon runner and then look at a lean Olympic lifter who nails his diet. Duh....
http://corporate.concept1010.com/the-myth-of-aerobic-training/
Interesting article and website that I half agree with.  I agree that we don't need nearly as much exercise as we are told but I disagree with the part about cardio being totally unnecessary. 

For some anecdotal evidence I look at my results from cardio.  A few years ago my blood pressure was ticking up so I decided to start up a cardio routine.  I did cardio everyday until my BP was back to where I wanted it.  I then dropped back to 3 days a week of cardio.....then 2 days.....then just 1 day a week and my BP stayed the same.  Recently I took a couple months off from cardio and my BP started ticking up again.  This time I just started doing cardio 1 day a week and soon my BP was back down.  For me doing cardio just 1 day a week is all I need but it definitely does effect my BP.

I have also experimented with lifting and the frequency needed.  Lifting only once every 10-15 days seems to have no effect on me maintaining all of my gains.  I enjoy lifting weights so I lift more anyway but it's not required.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2020, 04:22:24 AM »
So, all these experts in the medical field and Dr Fauci are all wrong to panic? It’s just all a hoax, an agenda and they are just exaggerating the extent of all this? I mean people do everyday die from illnesses, right?

Yes, people do die from illness every day. Why would you think I believe this disease is a hoax? Did you miss the part when I said I wore a mask, keep hand sanitizer with me at all times, and I'm very aware of my surroundings? Where exactly has Dr. Fauci said to panic? We are taken precautions like never before.

Are you still working? Many people aren't and can't support themselves. That will cause more problems than the disease itself. How long should we shut down the economy? If you're so concerned about other people don't you think people who work in grocery stores and drug stores that are in far more danger than the average person should also be locked down? Or maybe the only people who should, according to you, put themselves in danger are those that can provide for you so that you can live comfortably?

Not every state is New York. I've given you the situation here in Hawaii. We are more isolated being in the middle of the Pacific ocean. We have quarantined the state. Everybody is taking unprecedented precautions. We don't have to shut down the entire state here for months on end. Three people have died here due to the virus, two of them were elderly and had preexisting conditions. That's out of a million people. There are far more dangers to a person's life here than the coronavirus. I took a bigger risk just driving to Walmart today than catching the virus. And even if I do, there is over a 99% chance I will survive. I like those odds. I am willing to take some risks and not shut down my entire life on the off chance that I will catch the virus which is a fraction of one percent. I take much greater risks every day just living a normal life.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2020, 04:25:13 AM »
Yes, people do die from illness every day. Why would you think I believe this disease is a hoax? Did you miss the part when I said I wore a mask, keep hand sanitizer with me at all times, and I'm very aware of my surroundings? Where exactly has Dr. Fauci said to panic? We are taken precautions like never before.

Are you still working? Many people aren't and can't support themselves. That will cause more problems than the disease itself. How long should we shut down the economy? If you're so concerned about other people don't you think people who work in grocery stores and drug stores that are in far more danger than the average person should also be locked down? Or maybe the only people who should, according to you, put themselves in danger are those that can provide for you so that you can live comfortably?

Not every state is New York. I've given you the situation here in Hawaii. We are more isolated being in the middle of the Pacific ocean. We have quarantined the state. Everybody is taking unprecedented precautions. We don't have to shut down the entire state here for months on end. Three people have died here due to the virus, two of them were elderly and had preexisting conditions. That's out of a million people. There are far more dangers to a person's life here than the coronavirus. I took a bigger risk just driving to Walmart today than catching the virus. And even if I do, there is over a 99% chance I will survive. I like those odds. I am willing to take some risks and not shut down my entire life on the off chance that I will catch the virus which is a fraction of one percent. I take much greater risks every day just living a normal life.
Great post.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2020, 04:37:02 AM »
Wuhan is about to open back up, I’m sure gyms over there will to, you can always go over there

To and too. Look into it.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2020, 05:04:25 AM »
Franco's Corona training tips...


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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2020, 08:12:31 AM »

Yeah we can see it's SO important to them...give me a break. ::)

Yeah I can play the google image game as well, gimmick.


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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2020, 08:26:28 AM »
How old are you?

Hopefully young for your own sake.

If you were born in 86 you are a child. Children always have liberal attitudes. Obviously youve not done much in life yet.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2020, 09:36:12 AM »
If you were born in 86 you are a child. Children always have liberal attitudes. Obviously youve not done much in life yet.

Why are you making it political?

Gyms should be closed as long as there is social distancing. Life and death, not political affiliations.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2020, 09:43:32 AM »
Running, walking, bodyweight exercise and basic home gym items until this thing is over with.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2020, 10:21:11 AM »
Why are you making it political?

Gyms should be closed as long as there is social distancing. Life and death, not political affiliations.

While we are at it we should ban sodas, there is absolutely no nutritional value in them and they lead to medical complications. They are not essential to life. Nor is any refined sugar. So in the interest of life that should be eliminated as well.

Let’s use this thread to create a deeper list of non-essentials, like any car that can go over 85 mph. Keeping lives safe is our focus everyone.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2020, 10:22:05 AM »
So, all these experts in the medical field and Dr Fauci are all wrong to panic? It’s just all a hoax, an agenda and they are just exaggerating the extent of all this? I mean people do everyday die from illnesses, right?

No one is saying it’s a hoax but what people are skeptical of is that the numbers don’t add up and a lot of this media driven and doesn’t warrant shutting down the entire countries economy.

Will Brink posted a video yesterday where average people and a couple of journalists went to different hospitals around the country just videoing where the media are calling “war zones” and there simply was no lines, no packed ER’s no packed ER waiting rooms. There was even a video that went viral showing a US hospital packed with sick people but the video was really of an Italian hospital. Why?

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2020, 10:24:15 AM »
There are no outdoor gyms in my area or anywhere that I know of. Even if there is, you still would not be able to use them. I'm sure Coach would be at the outdoor gym in Venice if he could.

Of course, I adapt. I'm using the same equipment: dumbbells, bands (which are great) and bodyweight exercises, that I used when I was stuck at home during my knee replacement recovery. But this is all just fill in stuff and can't replace a decent equipped gym.

I bought three boxes of these bands. You can combine them to get some decent weight.
I also got a couple of these pull-up bars, one on the top and one of the bottom. You can do decent upper body movements with good resistance. If you stack enough bands (remember
I bought three boxes) you can even do some challenging stiff leg deads. For legs, I'm trying out Coach's 100 rep routine. I still can't do 100 reps of bodyweight squats so it's challenging for me.




I still have some of my elite FTS bands in the garage, TRX, farmers walks handles and some full kegs. I’ll resort to some strongman work. Won’t help for bodybuilding but it’s better than nothing.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2020, 10:28:03 AM »
No, gyms are not essential businesses and they should remain closed.

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
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« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2020, 10:39:08 AM »


When you get your info from the likes of a Trevor Noah you should leave the country and head for Italy

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Re: A gym should be a "necessary" business
« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2020, 10:44:43 AM »
Meltdown.

Workout at home to keep healthy, if you’re going that crazy after 2 weeks you probably have very bad body dysmorphia.