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Re: Ronnie now 5ft6
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2020, 02:59:01 PM »
Come on. Do I really have to do this?

He FAR exceeded, with drugs and hormones, his structural tolerance to withstand heavy, heavy weight training.

Now he’s almost in a wheelchair.

Elite strength athletes, the TRUE greats (Kaz, Coan, etc.), also use copious amounts of drugs and hormones, but they, to varying degrees, do NOT experience the shocking bodily destruction as is now displayed by Coleman.

His muscles’ ability to exert force (again, by using and abusing) far, far, far exceeded his “architectural” blueprint.

And too much stress was applied, for a considerable amount of time.

In short, his engine (muscles) was too powerful for his chassis (spine, connective tissues, etc.).



A few power lifting elites lifted more than Ronnie but none of them have done following a bodybuilding program. It's truly inhuman what he did and he destroyed his body doing it.  I can't imagine any of the great powerlifters around Ronnie's weight doing four exercises a body part twice a week with inhuman weights. Most power lifters are lucky if they do 3 or 5 exercises a training session. Yates is another. The list is long of bodybuilders with destroyed bodies.   

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Re: Ronnie now 5ft6
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2020, 03:37:36 PM »
A few power lifting elites lifted more than Ronnie but none of them have done following a bodybuilding program. It's truly inhuman what he did and he destroyed his body doing it.  I can't imagine any of the great powerlifters around Ronnie's weight doing four exercises a body part twice a week with inhuman weights. Most power lifters are lucky if they do 3 or 5 exercises a training session. Yates is another. The list is long of bodybuilders with destroyed bodies.   

This could go ‘round and ‘round forever. Not interested.

But I respect your opinion.

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Re: Ronnie now 5ft6
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2020, 04:26:32 PM »
This could go ‘round and ‘round forever. Not interested.

But I respect your opinion.

You are correct about Ronnie exceeding what his body could handle, but the brunt of his injuries came from his post-Olympia training stupidity, rather than his training during his Olympia reign.

I hate to say that - I like Ronnie - but that's the way I see it.

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Re: Ronnie now 5ft6
« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2020, 04:53:12 PM »
The man lifted inhuman weights for volume day in day out, on top of cardio/diet, up until his mid 40's.  No major injuries or tears while he was training (maybe a left lat tear depending on who you ask).  Well-balanced strength, no weakpoint lifts.  Hell, the guy even competed in powerlifting for a while. 

Calling his intelligence or judgement into question I could see, but I dont understand how anyone could call his physical structure anything less than "top-flight".  Care to elaborate?

He said he injured his back squatting, heard what sounded like a gun shot sound, but didn't have any pain and continued training. The next day he realised he had injured his back. This apparently caused nerve damage which led to his lat atrophying.

If he modified his training after the injury, he could have probably avoided a lot of his problems.

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Re: Ronnie now 5ft6
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2020, 01:14:47 AM »
Such a healthy “sport”. Why is Cormier holding a purse?

it's not a purse,it's EUROPEAN
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Re: Ronnie now 5ft6
« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2020, 01:53:35 AM »
Such a healthy “sport”. Why is Cormier holding a purse?

Coleman has the same "accessory" in the same photo

except with a strap to keep his hands free for crutches.

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Re: Ronnie now 5ft6
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2020, 02:34:50 AM »
Come on. Do I really have to do this?

He FAR exceeded, with drugs and hormones, his structural tolerance to withstand heavy, heavy weight training.

Now he’s almost in a wheelchair.

Elite strength athletes, the TRUE greats (Kaz, Coan, etc.), also use copious amounts of drugs and hormones, but they, to varying degrees, do NOT experience the shocking bodily destruction as is now displayed by Coleman.

His muscles’ ability to exert force (again, by using and abusing) far, far, far exceeded his “architectural” blueprint.

And too much stress was applied, for a considerable amount of time.

In short, his engine (muscles) was too powerful for his chassis (spine, connective tissues, etc.).

From some of the stories I’ve heard from the Westside Barbell guys, they’re in no better shape.  Dave Tate’s injury list is probably longer than Ronnie’s.  Are you gonna say that he wasn’t cut out for strength sports either?

Pushing your body to the limit is gonna take its toll, no matter who you are.

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Re: Ronnie now 5ft6
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2020, 06:48:46 AM »
From some of the stories I’ve heard from the Westside Barbell guys, they’re in no better shape.  Dave Tate’s injury list is probably longer than Ronnie’s.  Are you gonna say that he wasn’t cut out for strength sports either?

Pushing your body to the limit is gonna take its toll, no matter who you are.

It's not worth it a second imo....

The body tells you when it's had enough, pushing and pushing a body that's already saying stop is what got ronnie and these other guys where they are, stupidity....