More coronavirus patients testing positive again after recovery: report

[Thin Lizzy]

There could be many explanations, some have already been pointed out.

Also nasal swabs which return a negative covid19 result doesn't necessarily mean the body is clear of the virus. It can remain in the gi tract for much longer and weeks after testing negative for a nasal swab you can still test positive for a faecal/anal swab.

Another possible explanation is that some people are only able to produce IgM antibodies. This is the antibody the the body produces at the start of the infection and it only lasts a few weeks. The body later also needs to produce IgG antibodies to give you immunity. It's possible that not everyone can produce IgG antibodies so reinfection becomes a possibility.

“Faulty” testing also explains why there are so many cases without symptoms. Either that or we’re left to believe that this virus can be anything, everything or nothing at all:



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/05/have-i-already-had-coronavirus-how-would-i-know

Could I have had it and been asymptomatic?

Hillmann: Coronavirus is actually quite a significant spectrum of symptoms, from people who are entirely asymptomatic and would have no idea that they have it to people with very mild, cold-like symptoms – runny nose, congestion, sore throat – to people with more flu-like symptoms – high fevers, muscle aches, shortness of breath and cough. All the way up to people with severe illness, who we’re seeing in the hospital with respiratory failure, requiring ICU care. (Editor’s note: recent reports suggest that loss of smell and taste are also signs of Covid-19 infection.)

[harmankardon1]

you have been wrong on everything for nearly 2 months now. Keep it up, Champ

Keep telling yourself that. ^

Where's that exponential growth curve you were hysterically explaining to us all.... champ....

Keep sitting at home hoping for the worst so you can be "clever" and " right" on a forum, reading death stats hoping they go up.... Now that's sad.

[Thin Lizzy]

Keep telling yourself that. ^

Where's that exponential growth curve you were hysterically explaining to us all.... champ....

Keep sitting at home hoping for the worst so you can be "clever" and " right" on a forum, reading death stats hoping they go up.... Now that's sad.

The reason you’re seeing the projections go down is because this scam can’t be kept up forever. Eventually it will become apparent that people are no longer dying of heart disease, cancer, asthma and diabetes. For every death labeled as Corona it’s one less death labeled as something else.

[Army of One]

Keep telling yourself that. ^

Where's that exponential growth curve you were hysterically explaining to us all.... champ....

Keep sitting at home hoping for the worst so you can be "clever" and " right" on a forum, reading death stats hoping they go up.... Now that's sad.

keep it up, you are a winner!

There's some hysterical overreaction in this thread, maybe some WHO experts are getbiggers?

[Methyl m1ke]

The reason you’re seeing the projections go down is because this scam can’t be kept up forever. Eventually it will become apparent that people are no longer dying of heart disease, cancer, asthma and diabetes. For every death labeled as Corona it’s one less death labeled as something else.

Damn I love reading your posts.

[harmankardon1]

keep it up, you are a winner!

I still agree with that post, that there has been hysterical overreaction, in the thread and in general.

[Mayday]

There could be many explanations, some have already been pointed out.

Also nasal swabs which return a negative covid19 result doesn't necessarily mean the body is clear of the virus. It can remain in the gi tract for much longer and weeks after testing negative for a nasal swab you can still test positive for a faecal/anal

My wife had the nasal swab. Tested negative but we don't believe it. She had the same.symptoms and has had lingering chest/breathing issues since being sick which is exactly what is supposed to happen to those more heavily impacted. I got the same thing a week later, very mild and kicked it in 4 days.

It's BS testing. Countries have now changed the reporting to included non- positive patients providing their full history, notes and data is provided as backup. They know the testing isn't capturing enough.

[oldtimer1]

Some countries have bad testing. Case solved.

[Sissysquats]

On March 15, there were only 5 deaths. Then mass testing started and magically we’re in the thousands.



https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/03/15/de-blasio-nyc-schools-will-close-as-of-monday-may-not-reopen-this-year-1267141

As of Sunday afternoon, five New Yorkers have died from the coronavirus and 329 had been infected, de Blasio said.

   What they count as Chi-rona deaths in the stats skews things I think. Folks with multiple serious conditions as being counted as virus deaths if the virus is detected. Many were already at deaths doorstep from any number of thing but are counted as virus deaths

[Flexacon]

My wife had the nasal swab. Tested negative but we don't believe it. She had the same.symptoms and has had lingering chest/breathing issues since being sick which is exactly what is supposed to happen to those more heavily impacted. I got the same thing a week later, very mild and kicked it in 4 days.

It's BS testing. Countries have now changed the reporting to included non- positive patients providing their full history, notes and data is provided as backup. They know the testing isn't capturing enough.

[/b]

Yes, it seems flawed. If the Nasal swab doesn't go in deep enough into the nostril then it can return a false negative. Even if there is no virus in the nostrils then all that means is you won't spread the virus via coughing/sneezing. It doesn't mean your body is virus free.

Some countries have bad testing. Case solved.

I think I remember reading that the Spanish had tests which were only 70% accurate

[Mayday]

[/b]
Yes, it seems flawed.

I think I remember reading that the Spanish had tests which were only 70% accurate

Maybe it is a factor of why they decided to close things down? They figure their testing would.be so far behind the actual result it was better to shut it down?

Look at Italy. Didn't do anything and it's absolutely tearing them up. The rest of us locked.down and the difference it has made it huge!

[Thin Lizzy]

Damn I love reading your posts.

🙏

[Thin Lizzy]

   What they count as Chi-rona deaths in the stats skews things I think. Folks with multiple serious conditions as being counted as virus deaths if the virus is detected. Many were already at deaths doorstep from any number of thing but are counted as virus deaths

One of the front “people” even admitted it:

The Way the U.S. is Counting Wuhan Coronavirus Deaths Seems Problematic
Townhall ^ | 04/08/2020 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 4/8/2020, 10:00:23 AM by SeekAndFind

During the White House Wuhan coronavirus task force briefing Tuesday evening, Dr. Deborah Birx said the United States has taken a "liberal approach" in the way doctors classify deaths from the virus.
Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths

[Flexacon]

Maybe it is a factor of why they decided to close things down? They figure their testing would.be so far behind the actual result it was better to shut it down?

Look at Italy. Didn't do anything and it's absolutely tearing them up. The rest of us locked.down and the difference it has made it huge!

Italy and Spain were for a time also operating with the belief that the virus didn't spread person to person (fuck you WHO) so for a while they took any infected person with the virus into hospital for observation. This meant large numbers of vulnerable patients in the hospital, people going for check ups (also usually vulnerable) staff and visitors soon became infected. They also didn't treat on a priority basis and were basically trying to save people with ventilators who had very little chance of surviving.

Those are the main reasons we saw the early horror shows in Italy and Spain and why it hasn't been repeated elsewhere, but I agree without lockdowns and with exponential growth it would be multiple times worse now. Wuhan was a shit show and we only saw glimpses of that.

[mazrim]

I'm not saying I 100% believe everything, but watched several vids with this doctor and he makes a lot of sense.

[TheGrinch]

I'm not saying I 100% believe everything, but watched several vids with this doctor and he makes a lot of sense.

I think the entire thing is a global scam but how in the world can he say there's no virus?

[Flexacon]

I think the entire thing is a global scam but how in the world can he say there's no virus?

I don't know about global scam, but governments/organizations taking advantage of a pandemic to enhance their agenda and prosper. Definitely!

[mazrim]

I think the entire thing is a global scam but how in the world can he say there's no virus?

Watch the whole video. He has several on this subject matter and a few that go into that very, very deeply. This vid is more synopsis. You'd be surprised on how many "viruses" have never actually been proven to be so. They literally took bodily fluids of those with Spanish flu and injected into healthy patients and none of them got sick, etc. Instances like that.  

He is simply questioning. Does not come off as a conspiracy theorist at all.

This is one he goes in depth on exosomes

Like I said, I am not sure exactly about it all due to my background, but I appreciate the fact that he is questioning ideas that have been accepted by the medical community as fact with nothing to actually back it up.

[TheGrinch]

Watch the whole video. He has several on this subject matter and a few that go into that very, very deeply. This vid is more synopsis. You'd be surprised on how many "viruses" have never actually been proven to be so. They literally took bodily fluids of those with Spanish flu and injected into healthy patients and none of them got sick, etc. Instances like that.  

He is simply questioning. Does not come off as a conspiracy theorist at all.

This is one he goes in depth on exosomes

Like I said, I am not sure exactly about it all due to my background, but I appreciate the fact that he is questioning ideas that have been accepted by the medical community as fact with nothing to actually back it up.

Still don't understand.. watched the whole thing.. says there's no proof there's a virus but then what the heck is everyone getting sick from?

[Thin Lizzy]

Still don't understand.. watched the whole thing.. says there's no proof there's a virus but then what the heck is everyone getting sick from?

What they’ve always gotten sick from but with a positive test, it’s now Corona:


Bronx Residents Twice as Likely to Die From COVID-19 in NYC

http://thecity.nyc/2020/04/bronx-residents-twice-as-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-in-nyc.html

Pre-existing Conditions
Public health experts say it’s likely The Bronx’s elevated death rate is tied to the borough’s high rates of diabetes, asthma and hypertension, some of the nine illnesses linked with coronavirus complications.


County Health Rankings 2017 Says Bronx Is the Least Healthy Community in NY With the Most Child Poverty – NBC New York

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/unhealthy-worst-health-county-health-ranking-new-york-bronx/440316/

[LurkerNoMore]

What is Covid-19 is really just an immunity virus for us and Covid-20 is the actual zombie producing virus?

Exciting times ahead!!! 

[mazrim]

Still don't understand.. watched the whole thing.. says there's no proof there's a virus but then what the heck is everyone getting sick from?

That's kind of the point. The testing they are using has people both testing positive and negative......the same person. They have never actually isolated it to tell what/if anything in particular is causing it so a vaccine cannot be created. Admittedly, it is very complicated but there are several docs/scientists, etc. now speaking out about this.


This article "dumbs" it down a bit and makes it easier to understand.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/c-jay-engel/science-and-coronavirus-confirmations/?fbclid=IwAR1ICPUHY5rSQyMYEID1ahjL542doLkPe49UEBh6lF5o6JhtOQIp3myUP-U

Here is the paper referred to in the above article.

https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf

[Coach is Back!]

There is in fact a cure for the flu - the flu vaccine

It's not a permanent fix nor is it full proof. People still get it every year. I would imagine once a vaccine is cleared it's going to be the same

[el numero uno]

[/b]

I think I remember reading that the Spanish had tests which were only 70% accurate

Spain denounced the rapid tests they bought only had a sensitivity of 30%, when it should have been at least 80%.

A sensitivity of 100% means every positive case is identified. A sensitivity of 30% means only 30% of positive cases are identified by the test. That's it, too many false negatives.

The specifity was apparently 100%. That's it, no false positives.

That's not to say Spain has only detected 30% of Covid-19 cases. It was a batch of tests they've stopped using by now.

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-25/los-test-rapidos-de-coronavirus-comprados-en-china-no-funcionan.html

[Fortress]

People are going to tolerate all this nonsense for only so long before the masses simply say, Fuck it, and get back to living its normal life.

I’m dubious about ALL of it.

Absolutely none of it computes. When something stinks as bad as all this, I’m pretty much certain it’s a heap of baloney.