My first show was promoted by Bob. He said I will be Mr. Universe one day, I didnt believe that at the time but it pushed me to train harder and pursue competing. Compared to NPC, NABBA treated athletes very well and back stage always had plenty of weights, fruits, and water for athletes needs. I didnt know he trained many greats at the time, had I known, perhaps I'd sought his help. He was a great guy and will be missed.