Reopening America - White House Guidelines... May 1st

[Coach is Back!]

Most countries are locking down for at least a few more weeks. No senator will be on board with this.  Or yet.

What country are you in?

[Vince B]

STAY HOME THEN.

Exactly what I am doing. Go out to buy food. That is it. No photography which is a bummer.

The restrictions in Australia are ridiculous. Politicians involve the police which is pathetic. It is like being in house arrest.

They closed many of the beaches and even coastal walks. I mean, wtf is that? Way too much control. I get why they

are doing this but it is far too extreme. People have Easter or school holidays and can't go anywhere. This is crazy.

[Jizmonkey]

What country are you in?

Not the US. Why, I cannot have an opinion?

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Exactly what I am doing. Go out to buy food. That is it. No photography which is a bummer.

The restrictions in Australia are ridiculous. Politicians involve the police which is pathetic. It is like being in house arrest.

They closed many of the beaches and even coastal walks. I mean, wtf is that? Way too much control. I get why they

are doing this but it is far too extreme. People have Easter or school holidays and can't go anywhere. This is crazy.

Jump on bike (or E-Bike) & no worries 

[oldtimer1]

I like how all the slackers living at home or living on a government check want the country to remain closed. The people with real jobs have to get back to work. So many people who work for a living are running out of savings for food and paying their bills. If the country is closed too long their job might not be there when they get their state opens. Democrats are motivated to keep the country closed to destroy the economy so they can regain power.

[Tapeworm]

I can see what most people are thinking. However, what if you and people you know are in the vulnerable category re the virus? Who wants to risk dying because restrictions were eased too soon?

Like most things, it is totally different if you are involved or suffer or are in danger.

Precautions should be in proportion to the threat. The threat is not as severe as predicted.

As you just stated, precautions in Aus are completely overblown. I went to a police station yesterday to clarify what exactly I require to get through the police checkpoint each day and was told there are no clear rules and am basically at the whim of whoever I'm dealing with.

The GDP shrink will ripple fot years. Unemployment in the US is 1/7. Kids who haven't even started working yet could be paying for these Emergency Stimulus measures for the rest of their lives. Wrecking everyone's life to protect a handful of endangered people is foolish and does more harm than good overall. This for something which, at its peak, is doing in basically the same number as heart disease or cancer. It's nonsense.

Yes, we didn't know that before so I'm fine with how we played it safe. I played it safe too. But the information we have now doesn't justify destroying the economy and canceling individual rights.

[WalterWhite]

Precautions should be in proportion to the threat. The threat is not as severe as predicted.

As you just stated, precautions in Aus are completely overblown. I went to a police station yesterday to clarify what exactly I require to get through the police checkpoint each day and was told there are no clear rules and am basically at the whim of whoever I'm dealing with.

The GDP shrink will ripple fot years. Unemployment in the US is 1/7. Kids who haven't even started working yet could be paying for these Emergency Stimulus measures for the rest of their lives. Wrecking everyone's life to protect a handful of endangered people is foolish and does more harm than good overall. This for something which, at its peak, is doing in basically the same number as heart disease or cancer. It's nonsense.

Yes, we didn't know that before so I'm fine with how we played it safe. I played it safe too. But the information we have now doesn't justify destroying the economy and canceling individual rights.

Interesting that we hear very little about flue deaths worldwide.

Until recently, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated the annual mortality burden of influenza to be 250 000 to 500 000 all-cause deaths globally; however, a 2017 study indicated a substantially higher mortality burden, at 290 000-650 000 influenza-associated deaths from respiratory causes alone, and a 2019 study estimated 99 000-200 000 deaths from lower respiratory tract infections directly caused by influenza. Here we revisit global and regional estimates of influenza mortality burden and explore mortality trends over time and geography.

 Some light reading.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6815659/

[LurkerNoMore]

When May 15 comes and it isn't open... what's the excuse going to be?

[Coach is Back!]

Not the US. Why, I cannot have an opinion?

I didn’t mean anything by that, I was just asking.

[Coach is Back!]

When May 15 comes and it isn't open... what's the excuse going to be?

Ask your Governor. With Ours I don’t expect it to be open until about 2025.

[Dave D]

Exactly what I am doing. Go out to buy food. That is it. No photography which is a bummer.

The restrictions in Australia are ridiculous. Politicians involve the police which is pathetic. It is like being in house arrest.

They closed many of the beaches and even coastal walks. I mean, wtf is that? Way too much control. I get why they

are doing this but it is far too extreme. People have Easter or school holidays and can't go anywhere. This is crazy.

Vince you cant have it both ways.

In one post you're talking about its wise to keep everything shut down for theose who are vulnerable and here you're saying its to much.

What are you saying?

[tommywishbone]

This is horseshit. The data is in. Deaths are nowhere near the catastrophic levels we were promised. According to early March, there should be several million dead by now. Open up and let it run. We'll lose a couple hundred thou who were at death's door in the first place. It ain't that serious.

Tapeworm for President !

[G_Thang]

I like how all the slackers living at home or living on a government check want the country to remain closed. The people with real jobs have to get back to work. So many people who work for a living are running out of savings for food and paying their bills. If the country is closed too long their job might not be there when they get their state opens. Democrats are motivated to keep the country closed to destroy the economy so they can regain power.

i'd prefer may 10-15th limited re-openings with masks and gloves, except for hard hit states like NY, LA, FL, etc, and WASH YOUR ASS WHEN YOU GET HOME  AND PUT EVERYTHING IN A PLASTIC BAG BEFORE YOU TOUCH ANYTHING.  Gyms are fine.  Healthy bodies are resistant bodies, just have a limited number of members per sq footage and get the front desk people of their asses and cleaning between group arrivals every hr.  BTW, i work at ground ZERO.

The next wave will be asymptomatic infections so controlling the epidemic will also rely on isolating patients, tracing and quarantining contacts as early as possible, educating the public on both food and personal hygiene (CLEAN YOUR ASS).

[Coach is Back!]

Get Covid, go to the Hospital, die of staph..

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2019/p0305-deadly-staph-infections.html

[Jizmonkey]

I didn’t mean anything by that, I was just asking.

Western Canada

[pellius]

I like how all the slackers living at home or living on a government check want the country to remain closed. The people with real jobs have to get back to work. So many people who work for a living are running out of savings for food and paying their bills. If the country is closed too long their job might not be there when they get their state opens. Democrats are motivated to keep the country closed to destroy the economy so they can regain power.

I bet the politicians would be singing a different tune if their paychecks stopped coming in. Paychecks financed by people who are no longer being paid as they are forced by the very people they have to support to be unemployed.

[SOMEPARTS]

I bet the politicians would be singing a different tune if their paychecks stopped coming in. Paychecks financed by people who are no longer being paid as they are forced by the very people they have to support to be unemployed.

The media in the same boat. They have to be thrilled to have a captive audience.

[Agnostic007]

So if the governors of each state block this, what happens, Civil War 2.0? I mean, gyms are already home to the iron warrior, do they really want to piss us off?

Here's what I understand from watching the briefings. These are guidelines. The Governors are not obligated to follow them. There isn't any "blocking" to do.  However many of the Governors have indicated they will adhere to much of it or have similar phases planned.   

[Methyl m1ke]

Would like to think Newsom would open by May 1 but then he moved to May 15 and now he's not sure, so...

No fuck that I am not waiting another MONTH for NOTHING.

We need to act, now. Are there any rallies or anything how does one find out about that sort of thing?

Fuck me newsome is a fucking moron if he waits one single day longer to get the state back to normal. What the hell is he thinking?

[WalterWhite]

I bet the politicians would be singing a different tune if their paychecks stopped coming in. Paychecks financed by people who are no longer being paid as they are forced by the very people they have to support to be unemployed.

Exactly they are the ones who shut down the economy so they should be cut off!  Over 22m unemployed in the US and that's going to continue to rise.

Tip of the iceberg to the damage done.

No fuck that I am not waiting another MONTH for NOTHING.

We need to act, now. Are there any rallies or anything how does one find out about that sort of thing?

Fuck me newsome is a fucking moron if he waits one single day longer to get the state back to normal. What the hell is he thinking?

I have a feeling this is going to boil over at some point because most people I know have had enough of their liberties being stripped by these overpaid hypocrites.

[booty]

Exactly what I am doing. Go out to buy food. That is it. No photography which is a bummer.

The restrictions in Australia are ridiculous. Politicians involve the police which is pathetic. It is like being in house arrest.

They closed many of the beaches and even coastal walks. I mean, wtf is that? Way too much control. I get why they

are doing this but it is far too extreme. People have Easter or school holidays and can't go anywhere. This is crazy.

Vince I bought some fish and chips today and since I couldn’t eat them at the cafe I sat in my car looking at the ocean. I looked in my car window and a police car was watching me.

[pellius]

Exactly they are the ones who shut down the economy so they should be cut off!  Over 22m unemployed in the US and that's going to continue to rise.

Tip of the iceberg to the damage done.

I have a feeling this is going to boil over at some point because most people I know have had enough of their liberties being stripped by these overpaid hypocrites.

Without except, everyone that calls for extending the shutdown, one pundit on TV said it should be about 18 months, are being provided for in one form or another and not affect by lost of income. But wait until there are shortages of food and other necessities since business simply cannot remain operating when no one can purchase their products. Twelve to eighteen months! Can you believe that? This is coming from "research scientist", presumable highly educated and far above average intelligence.

Of course, research scientists have outside funding. I wonder what their predictions will be once government and university support starts to dry up. Even a high school kid knows that if you shut down the economy for that long everything goes to hell. And I don't mean just depression poverty soup line bullshit. I'm talking anarchy, looting, stealing, killing -- survival of the fittest.

[SF1900]

Even when business reopen, I fear they will still struggle, as most people will continue to be scared to go in large public gathering. This is going to impact small businesses for a while.

[LurkerNoMore]

Even when business reopen, I fear they will still struggle, as most people will continue to be scared to go in large public gathering. This is going to impact small businesses for a while.

Small businesses are already impacted as they didn't get any of the 350B funding set aside for them. 

[SF1900]

Small businesses are already impacted as they didn't get any of the 350B funding set aside for them. 

Why not?