Author Topic: David Icke live, taken down from Youytube 97k viewing, still available here  (Read 15122 times)

pellius

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and there you go again, its not about you, just because I quote you it isn't a personal attack, you need to calm down Nancy

All Im saying is that if people disagree with Youtube and FB then they should stop using them, they can do what they like

The post wasn't aimed at you personally.

Now try and read things properly and count to ten before you post, you may keep your blood pressure down to a manageable level

Nice backpedal granny face, you replied to my post expose as an idiot again and try to make excuses. I think it's time to post on your gay site to get another hook-up.

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The question for me is what Icke actually believes himself. I have a feeling that it's a type of performance art project, the stuff about lizards etc. He may have some underlying plan behind it all. Of course Jews think when he says "lizards" he is really saying "jews" :D I don't know what Icke believes but it's interesting that some people feel he is talking about them.
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/icke-antisemitic-conspiracies-viewed-over-30-million-times-new-research-shows-1.499368

I don't like the fact that he's censored, even if his ideas are wacky and may even harm some people. And there are a TON of people buying everything he says. But the same can be said about any religion. And who should be the arbiter of what is true and what can be said? A scientist? When even scientists disagree about many things. The interesting thing about censorship is that its advocates are saying that people can't really be trusted with words or ideas, that people are very very stupid and someone needs to decide what they can handle. These same people talk about democracy being wonderful.  ::)

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The worry is that many who listen to that charlatan are influenced by things he says. It pleases me that he is banned.

Foolish people actually paid money to hear him present his crap.


People listen to and pay for crap all the time. Most of what we hear is crap. Most exercise scientists would say what you believe about muscle hypertrophy is crap. Should you be silenced?

Vince G, CSN MFT

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People listen to and pay for crap all the time. Most of what we hear is crap. Most exercise scientists would say what you believe about muscle hypertrophy is crap. Should you be silenced?

I have a masters degree in the philosophy of science from Sydney University. David Icke doesn't sound like an educated person.  David Icke is a fraud and is unscrupulous to boot. People like him are dangerous and shouldn't be given a platform to spew such bullshit.

Most exercise scientists are not bodybuilders so I doubt they are too wise about maximising hypertrophy.

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Youtube goddess Susan Wojcicki and other opinion gatekeepers should completely pull Pumping Iron from all social media.
Pumping Iron has been thoroughly discredited and no one should consume information regarding its content.

Fact checkers refuted bodybuilding decades ago:

Arnold Schwarzenegger lied about a pump being as good as cumming.

Ken Waller didn't really steal Mike Katz's Tshirt.

Pumping Iron exaggerated Matt Ferrigno's involvement in Lou Ferrigno's contest preparation.

Arnold said he didn't attend his father's funeral when he actually did.

Matt Ferrigno said Arnold had "spaghetti arms" when he actually didn't.

Pumping Iron was edited out of temporal order.

Serge Nubret said he could "take" Arnold when, in fact, he could not best him.

The documentary makes it seem like Lou was Arnold's biggest threat.

It was never mentioned that Joe Weider sold supplements that didn't work.

The 1975 Mr. Olympia was filmed in apartheid South Africa which Zimbabwean Robert Mugabe would not have approved of.

Pumping Iron did not mention bodybuilders taking steroids.

Lou Ferrigno said he needed more oil when needing more oil is actually subjective. Where's the study that says he needed more oil?

Franco Columbu said he was more muscular than Arnold. Now, how can we believe anything Franco says?

Danny Padilla conspired with others to suggest that Franco Columbu was a bat when Snopes has proven that he wasn't.


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If some people are reptiilians rather than humans, does that mean that theyre immune to the coronavirus?

Has Icke spoke bout this?

Or is there no coronavirus to begin with?

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Everyone can catch coronavirus, haven't you seen the news.....

Even if you don't have it you've got it.

Griffith

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The interview didn't need an email address to watch when it was live.

He spoke some time about the Coronavirus.

It was his opinion that's it's an excuse by governments to gain more control of the population, to create fear which puts people in survival mode and think differently, and make them more dependent on the state.

He also said the use of the masks was a way to create a visible threat, which creates even more fear.

He said when people are consumed by fear, they think less rationally, their brain shifts to survival mode and they will be more willing to give up freedoms in order to feel like this will increase their odds to survive.

He also mentioned the empty hospitals in the UK and that the government has encouraged the public to clap at a certain time everyday to thank medical staff, which is like something straight out of 1984. And a way of conditioning people to this kind of behaviour of giving thanks to the state.

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Requires a subscription...fuck that and fuck whoever this person is
no it doesnt, just an e-mail address

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Another Full video link below.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5eaf94333bf48800246c2f6a

Yet another link below. Always search bitchute.com if Susan Noahide has commanded a video banished. Most "dangerous" people also backup-post everything on bitchute.com

https://www.bitchute.com/video/H4W7FwBy0Ukh/

Thank goodness we have human beings that disallow what other human beings' eyes can see and ears can hear. Youtube now immediately deletes anything Star Wars related because Chewbacca has not been verified as real.

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I have a masters degree in the philosophy of science from Sydney University. David Icke doesn't sound like an educated person.  David Icke is a fraud and is unscrupulous to boot. People like him are dangerous and shouldn't be given a platform to spew such bullshit.

Most exercise scientists are not bodybuilders so I doubt they are too wise about maximising hypertrophy.


Would you say religious people are also dangerous and should be silenced? If someone believes demons roam the earth and gets others to believe it too, should they be silenced? Icke believes some crazy shit but so do billions of other people. Where do you draw the line on what people are allowed to say or hear?

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Would you say religious people are also dangerous and should be silenced? If someone believes demons roam the earth and gets others to believe it too, should they be silenced? Icke believes some crazy shit but so do billions of other people. Where do you draw the line on what people are allowed to say or hear?
Vince believes in the thought police until they come after him.

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Would you say religious people are also dangerous and should be silenced? If someone believes demons roam the earth and gets others to believe it too, should they be silenced? Icke believes some crazy shit but so do billions of other people. Where do you draw the line on what people are allowed to say or hear?

Icke being banned by YouTube has absolutely nothing to do with me. Sure, people can go and listen to Icke or buy his books. However, he posted stuff that went against the rules of YouTube and

hence he was banned. Most people believe lots of nonsense. This is inevitable. We accept that many people are religious and others are superstitious or believe in star signs, etc. We are free to believe what we

like. However, trying to influence others is another thing and that is when limits have to be placed on what some people and or groups do.

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Icke being banned by YouTube has absolutely nothing to do with me. Sure, people can go and listen to Icke or buy his books. However, he posted stuff that went against the rules of YouTube and

hence he was banned. Most people believe lots of nonsense. This is inevitable. We accept that many people are religious and others are superstitious or believe in star signs, etc. We are free to believe what we

like. However, trying to influence others is another thing and that is when limits have to be placed on what some people and or groups do.


nothing he posted violated the standards they display on their site...

That question was asked, they refused to reply

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nothing he posted violated the standards they display on their site...

That question was asked, they refused to reply

This is the reason they gave:

“YouTube has clear policies prohibiting any content that disputes the existence and transmission of Covid-19 as described by the WHO and the NHS.

“Due to continued violation of these policies we have terminated David Icke’s YouTube channel.”

Youtube also de-monetises people for criticising the CCP, supporting the Hong Kong protesters and Taiwan.

And the WHO is now run by someone paid by the CCP and who had appointed Mugabe as a 'good will ambassador'. The same WHO which criticised Trump when he wanted to close air travel from China at the beginning, and same WHO which gave false information and contributed to the global spread of the disease.

The same WHO which denies Taiwan exists and repeatedly says they 'can't hear the question' when asked by Taiwanese on what the WHO is doing for Taiwan.

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This is the reason they gave:

“YouTube has clear policies prohibiting any content that disputes the existence and transmission of Covid-19 as described by the WHO and the NHS.

“Due to continued violation of these policies we have terminated David Icke’s YouTube channel.”

Youtube also de-monetises people for criticising the CCP, supporting the Hong Kong protesters and Taiwan.

And the WHO is now run by someone paid by the CCP and who had appointed Mugabe as a 'good will ambassador'. The same WHO which criticised Trump when he wanted to close air travel from China at the beginning, and same WHO which gave false information and contributed to the global spread of the disease.

The same WHO which denies Taiwan exists and repeatedly says they 'can't hear the question' when asked by Taiwanese on what the WHO is doing for Taiwan.

Ah , well he did claim that Covid19 doesn't exist, there is no virus, thats something I disagree with him on, he should have stayed within the boundaries of suggesting it wasn't as virulent as predicted.

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The problem is that they're basically monopolising social media. Google and Youtube are also owned by the same company.

Facebook owns Instagram and Whattssapp. All of these companies have massive influence.

Seems it's all within the law (at least US competition laws) but not an ideal situation to have. Because without competition, the company can do whatever they want and not worry too much about losing users/customers because even if it becomes a worse product, there's nowhere else to go which has anywhere near the same user base. And the size of the existing user base is a very important determining factor when people are choosing products to use.

YT will use live stream's succes against them and point out that 1.1 million viewers watched the London Real live stream, which means large audiences can be reached by other platforms.

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Twitter will soon be issuing pre-post warnings via new algorithms detecting wrongthink tweets.  Rationing influence and ideas are the keys to narrowing the range of thought. 

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/06/twitter-will-now-warn-you-if-you-are-about-to-post-wrongthink/

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So what I understand the repitilians are feeding off fear, so they create more fear in order to have more to feast on.

And the way to fight this is by love!

According to Icke.

Sounds like he's onto something there!

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Ah , well he did claim that Covid19 doesn't exist, there is no virus, thats something I disagree with him on, he should have stayed within the boundaries of suggesting it wasn't as virulent as predicted.

I disagree with that too.

But all they've done now is give him even more publicity and news headlines with more people reading about him and what he's saying.

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The problem is that they're basically monopolising social media. Google and Youtube are also owned by the same company.

Facebook owns Instagram and Whattssapp. All of these companies have massive influence.

Seems it's all within the law (at least US competition laws) but not an ideal situation to have. Because without competition, the company can do whatever they want and not worry too much about losing users/customers because even if it becomes a worse product, there's nowhere else to go which has anywhere near the same user base. And the size of the existing user base is a very important determining factor when people are choosing products to use.

That's the issue at hand here - the social media giants, in combination, probably have 80% of the internet's audience, and they are all colluding in terms of what gets published and what doesn't.

YouTube's advertisers pulling out actually did happen.  So I understand that YouTube needs a business model that works.

I hate feeling like I have to make a choice between private property rights and freedom of speech rights.

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Icke being banned by YouTube has absolutely nothing to do with me. Sure, people can go and listen to Icke or buy his books. However, he posted stuff that went against the rules of YouTube and

hence he was banned. Most people believe lots of nonsense. This is inevitable. We accept that many people are religious and others are superstitious or believe in star signs, etc. We are free to believe what we

like. However, trying to influence others is another thing and that is when limits have to be placed on what some people and or groups do.


But that's what the censors themselves are trying to do, Vince.

That's why discussion is always the best route.  Let the Icke character get sorted through that, right or wrong.

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But that's what the censors themselves are trying to do, Vince.

That's why discussion is always the best route.  Let the Icke character get sorted through that, right or wrong.

LOL, exactly.

Vince knows that all he can do is call someone racist or sexist when they disagree with him using facts, and since that isn't working as well as it did throughout his adult life, his opposition has forced him into a situation where he has to use actual facts to make points, rather than insults.

Being unable to do that, Vince prefers censorship.  Obviously that would be the case.

I remember being politically incorrect before it was cool.  Now THAT was hard to do.  But I NEVER wanted censorship of my opposing side.  All I wanted was more speech to be encouraged all around.

Anyone with a losing argument like Vince would want censorship though.  It's like an admission that on some level, he knows he is wrong.  Like he and other lefties can feel it in their bones that they are wrong.

If David Icke is such a nutter, let the man speak!  If it's as obvious as Vince claims it will be, most people will see it.

And most people DO see it.  I feel that way about both him AND Alex Jones...but they do make good points at times, and I definitely don't want to see them banned for exercising their ability to speak their minds.

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But that's what the censors themselves are trying to do, Vince.

That's why discussion is always the best route.  Let the Icke character get sorted through that, right or wrong.


The thing is YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc., are businesses. None of them support total freedom of speech. How can they?

In my opinion lots of bullshit should be booted from those media. I am disappointed that so much crap is on YouTube. The uneducated and simpleminded cannot

discriminate among them so end up believing all manner of nonsense. I also would prefer that there were no religions or churches. All bullshit and man made.