RIP - Luke Sandoe - IFBB Pro

[Bevo]

Confirmed suicide.

Video link from his best friend.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_54ByJHSbe/



Notes:

squatlikechow - I don’t know if this was the right thing to do. I’m a little lost right now but something told me to protect his memory but honestly. I’m sorry if this wasn’t appropriate. I love you @lukesandoe

"He decided that was his only option... He's battled with demons. It wasnt a health issue, it wasnt a steroid issue, this is Luke Sandoe, a human being, contending with. We all have our demonds, our voices in our heads, and his demonds were bigger.  It's important that we don't hide the reasons on what happened, and shed light on the reasons.  Mental health is an issue we should take very serious. "

Can’t even spell demons

[Matt]

Can’t even spell demons

What I gather from his post is that we all have our demonds, demons, and demonds.

[Bevo]

What I gather from his post is that we all have our demonds, demons, and demonds.

That’s what I gather as well Haha

Did you drop the “C” in your name? Just Matt now?  Maybe I just noticed

[Primemuscle]

Can we distinguish suicide by hanging versus auto-erotic asphyxiation?

I learned about a website in 2002 called SilentVictims.org about people who cut off their circulation while masturbating, and something like 5% of them die.  Sounds brilliant. 

The problem is, then the families announce it as a suicide because they are too embarrassed to admit that their child or family member/loved one was engaging in something so moronic.

That being said, any of us could have probably died at some point from a night of drinking or something.  Literally the first year I started drinking [2003 - when I was 21], I went to sleep after a night of drinking during my summer army training in Kingston, ON, and woke up covered in puke.  Someone told me that I could have died, and that Jimmy Hendrix died that way.  So go figure.

That being said, if anyone dies by masturbation, and he is found with his pants pulled down, I would think that shouldn't be hidden by the family.  But I can see why that would be hard to deal with.

Robin Williams was actually in a movie where his son died in this fashion.  There was even speculation that Williams died in this fashion.  But I also heard he had just been diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease, and had to settle a huge $35 million divorce.

Really?

[honest]

Very sad, depression is something individuals who suffer from it need to take serious, just a real shame that he couldn't wait out till the dark days pass as they always do,but to them who suffer the worst they just can't see that. RIP.

[Primemuscle]

Very sad, depression is something individuals who suffer from it need to take serious, just a real shame that he couldn't wait out till the dark days pass as they always do,but to them who suffer the worst they just can't see that. RIP.

Agree.

[Vince B]

He spoke many times on his and Fouad's podcast about the tough time he had getting over his ex.  He was living with a new girl now so I thought everything was all good and he got over it.  However I guess you never know what's going on inside a persons head.  Robin Williams was a pretty funny, happy go lucky guy.

If he was in love with the ex then that is a loss that can hurt for years. Having a new girl helps but doesn't compensate.  You literally don't want anyone else.

I am not implying that this applied to Luke, but anyone who has experienced unrequited love knows it is a terrible place to be.

[Coach is Back!]

Flex Lewis





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ANYONE who feels low, with suicidal thoughts or mental illness, know your never alone and to please reach out to someone and talk, there are many professional organizations that want to help.

This x 1000

[moty]

This x 1000

People say this but when it actually comes down to it a lot of people don't wanna hear it and see it as a burden dealing with these types of situations. Even close friends.

[Primemuscle]

This x 1000

YES!  And a 1,000 times a thousand yes.

It is unimaginable how deep the hole is that some unfortunate people fall into that makes them believe the only solution for them to end their emotional pain is to end their life. What they leave us with are questions, which can never be fully answered and feelings of quilt which can never be completely resolved.

[Ron]

From the 2018 IFBB California State contest - always was respectful. 

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2018/ifbb_california_state_championships/luke_sandoe/

[SouJerz]

I didn’t want to walk to far into this, but one has to wonder. No doubt that the authorities will be conducting a investigation and be speaking to Aaron. Could you imagine if Redcon was feeding him some of those Blackstone products. Hum . . .

J

Maybe he was getting supps from the same person Dallas Mccarver was getting from.   So now two redcon athletes gone?  definitely weird.

[pellius]

From the 2018 IFBB California State contest - always was respectful. 

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2018/ifbb_california_state_championships/luke_sandoe/

So you believe the reports that it was suicide is true?

[Ron]

So you believe the reports that it was suicide is true?

I need more detailed answers on what happened, as facts matter.  Only a few people really know, like James Hollingshead, but we know he passed away at age 30.  How exactly, what it an accidental injection, insulin shock, or something else, I don't know.  His friends are saying he had mental health issues, as we have read, some are saying suicide, but until we have more facts, I don't want to believe that because it hurts.  Was there anything that someone could of done? 

From experience, I know that good friends with demons and issues is so very hard to help them out of it.  I feel for the family, and especially the kids.

[Coach is Back!]

People say this but when it actually comes down to it a lot of people don't wanna hear it and see it as a burden dealing with these types of situations. Even close friends.

I’m not an expert on depression but I’ve dealt with and at times still deal with it. It’s a matter of recognizing it and learning to cope.

[Primemuscle]

I need more detailed answers on what happened, as facts matter.  Only a few people really know, but we know he passed away at age 30.  How exactly, what it an accidental injection, insulin shock, or something else, I don't know.  His friends are saying he had mental health issues, as we have read, some are saying suicide, but until we have more facts, I don't want to believe that because it hurts.  Was there anything that someone could of done?

From experience, I know that good friends with demons and issues is so very hard to help them out of it.  I feel for the family, and especially the kids.

These are the feelings and the haunting questions which are always left behind someone's suicide. What did I miss? Was there something I could have done? Maybe this helps explain why many of us have the tendency to look for some other reason for their passing. Almost anything would hurt less. This is most true for those who were closest to the deceased.

[Primemuscle]

I’m not an expert on depression but I’ve dealt with and at times still deal with it. It’s a matter of recognizing it and learning to cope.

If you are speaking about yourself, I am glad that you've learned to cope. Keep in mind that you are not alone and while coping is great, healing can be even better, be it with medication, therapy or both.

[The Keto Kid]

RIP I honestly thought he was a future Arnold champion possibly top 3 Olympia contender.

[illuminati]

Very sad, depression is something individuals who suffer from it need to take serious, just a real shame that he couldn't wait out till the dark days pass as they always do,but to them who suffer the worst they just can't see that. RIP.

The Dark days don’t aiways pass for everyone they just get darker - If he wasn’t seeking Help
And or taking any medication, it Likely became to much for him. Very very sad he decided that
He couldn’t continue/ cope anymore. A lot more research & understanding needed with dealing
With depression.

[illuminati]

I’m not an expert on depression but I’ve dealt with and at times still deal with it. It’s a matter of recognizing it and learning to cope.

Well said coach - it’s taken me very many years to recognise & accept it.
It was Getting very very dark for me - Something happened to me that thankfully shock me into
Really looking at myself & asking myself some deep question- I sought out help & it’s helped me no end - compared to even 4/5 months ago I’m in a much better brighter place, Thankfully.
I’m not sure if I’ll ever be rid of it Completely - though I’m certainly much more aware & will deal with it much sooner if it returns. For me I accept it’s an on going battle to keep my mind from becoming depressed.

[Coach is Back!]

Well said coach - it’s taken me very many years to recognise & accept it.
It was Getting very very dark for me - Something happened to me that thankfully shock me into
Really looking at myself & asking myself some deep question- I sought out help & it’s helped me no end - compared to even 4/5 months ago I’m in a much better brighter place, Thankfully.
I’m not sure if I’ll ever be rid of it Completely - though I’m certainly much more aware & will deal with it much sooner if it returns. For me I accept it’s an on going battle to keep my mind from becoming depressed.

This subject came up from Luke’s death and not trying to make this about me, but we are talking about a serious mental condition. I’ve dealt with death a lot just from my father and other family members that have passed, we all have to deal it. But yesterday was a very traumatic day that likely triggered other traumatic events from my past and one that’s vivid to me from 33 years ago everyday. It’s set me back mentally that I’m struggling with.

When I heard about Luke’s mental condition (depression is a condition) and that it could (not verified) have been suicide because of it. You just never know

[pellius]

Everybody has there ups and downs. I've been through some pretty low points in my life. Being homeless and living on the beach and I've thought many times about just offing myself. I mean, sometimes it just doesn't seem to be worth the trouble. But like King Solomon said, "This too shall pass." Nothing lasts forever even life itself and as you get older you realize just how short life is. How quickly the years pass. So I figure I'll just stick it out until the bitter end. Also, it's important to consider how you killing yourself will affect others. Especially if you have kids. What about your mother and father and your friends and relatives? Have them feeling like they wish they could have done something.

Death is easy. It'll come soon enough. It's sticking it out that's the hard part. If you try to make other people's lives better then it will give purpose to your own.

[friedchickendinner]

I didn’t realize he had kids. I don’t get how you can off yourself when you have kids. I know people will jump all over me for this but I don’t care how bleak things are, leaving behind kids like that is the most selfish act possible. If you’re “sick” get help. And don’t tell me he couldn’t think rationally b/c of his mental illness. He was rational enough to make plenty of other adult decisions.

You're right, you don't get it.

[Rambone]

Can we distinguish suicide by hanging versus auto-erotic asphyxiation?

I learned about a website in 2002 called SilentVictims.org about people who cut off their circulation while masturbating, and something like 5% of them die.  Sounds brilliant. 

The problem is, then the families announce it as a suicide because they are too embarrassed to admit that their child or family member/loved one was engaging in something so moronic.

That being said, any of us could have probably died at some point from a night of drinking or something.  Literally the first year I started drinking [2003 - when I was 21], I went to sleep after a night of drinking during my summer army training in Kingston, ON, and woke up covered in puke.  Someone told me that I could have died, and that Jimmy Hendrix died that way.  So go figure.

That being said, if anyone dies by masturbation, and he is found with his pants pulled down, I would think that shouldn't be hidden by the family.  But I can see why that would be hard to deal with.

Robin Williams was actually in a movie where his son died in this fashion.  There was even speculation that Williams died in this fashion.  But I also heard he had just been diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease, and had to settle a huge $35 million divorce.

WTF Matt hahahaha #michaelhutchencedisease

[BayGBM]

In before Aaron starts another charity for kids in his honor.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/luke-sandoe-tribute-fund

Very sad for a family to lose such a young dad.