When Ramy destroyed Phil

[illuminati]

phil won fair and square

ramy might have looked better in 2 poses, that's it

phil was much harder and much more complete, this was an off phil but he was the clear winner

ramy is too soft and too unbalanced

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You’re correct Phil did win. Yes.
And the record will always show that.

From the pics Ramy overwhelms Phil from the front & Phil edges Ramy from the back.
Overall I’d of Voted for Ramy.

[G_Thang]

LOL, circling Phil's back leg and Ramy's front in the second pic.

I just looked at the front.  His only advantage over Phil is his abs. you can't beat MrO with just abs. Ramy is nothing more than ruhl 2.0

[Earl1972]

You’re correct Phil did win. Yes.
And the record will always show that.

From the pics Ramy overwhelms Phil from the front & Phil edges Ramy from the back.
Overall I’d of Voted for Ramy.

you looked at 2 pics from the front, also 2 pics that don't show how much harder phil was than ramy

of course you voted for ramy, you have always been anti phil

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[illuminati]

you looked at 2 pics from the front, also 2 pics that don't show how much harder phil was than ramy

of course you voted for ramy, you have always been anti phil

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Nope incorrect- Your wrong yet again
When Phil 1st came on the pro scene he had a good physique- needing some work on his
Back & Legs iirc - and he did the work & brought them up Very very well.
His 1st 2/3 wins he looked very good - only real fault his Narrowness & small pecs.
Once his Gut started expanding his physique went down (dan) hill.

Strange that you’ve only selected 2 pics to try illustrate your points.

As always- Opinions Vary.

[pellius]

phil won fair and square

ramy might have looked better in 2 poses, that's it

phil was much harder and much more complete, this was an off phil but he was the clear winner

ramy is too soft and too unbalanced

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I can't believe anybody can look at Ramy's abs and look at Phil's and say Ramy is too soft. But, like I said, it's all subjective.

Jeeze man, too soft? Just look at the difference especially in the quads and hams.

[pellius]

I just looked at the front.  His only advantage over Phil is his abs. you can't beat MrO with just abs. Ramy is nothing more than ruhl 2.0

Not the chest, width, and V taper?

[G_Thang]

Not the chest, width, and V taper?

one buy is flexed while the other is relaxed.  that's all i see.  i also see the relaxed guy has better arms, quads, lats, traps and delts for his frame.  flexed guy had better abs that day. did i miss something? 

[Methyl m1ke]

It reminds me of

Ive gone back and forth over the years and my final verdict is that Nassers back was not so bad that Dorian deserved the victory. Nasser should have won. Just my opinion.

[pellius]

one buy is flexed while the other is relaxed.  that's all i see.  i also see the relaxed guy has better arms, quads, lats, traps and delts for his frame.  flexed guy had better abs that day. did i miss something?

I disagree. As does the majority here does. It's not an ab contest, sure, but there comes a point where it's so bad that it detracts for the whole physique. But I understand why you ignored the side chest shot.

[pellius]

Ive gone back and forth over the years and my final verdict is that Nassers back was not so bad that Dorian deserved the victory. Nasser should have won. Just my opinion.

Arnold, Mike Mentzer, and Dorian are my favorites bbers but I am, reluctantly, inclined to agree with you.

[pamith]

People just want Ramy to win because they are sick and tired of the sport being dominated by blacks, people want a white champion, the truth is Ramy was bigger but bodybuilding is NOT just about size, it's also about aesthetics, and Phil is way more aesthetic

[Jayel]

Same here.  I've asked before but how can you possibly explain to a non fan that the guy on the left is Mr. Olympia and better than the guy on the right?

Ask Sweinberger 
One of Ramy’s pecs is equal to the size of Phil’s entire chest

[Earl1972]

Nope incorrect- Your wrong yet again
When Phil 1st came on the pro scene he had a good physique- needing some work on his
Back & Legs iirc - and he did the work & brought them up Very very well.
His 1st 2/3 wins he looked very good - only real fault his Narrowness & small pecs.
Once his Gut started expanding his physique went down (dan) hill.

Strange that you’ve only selected 2 pics to try illustrate your points.

As always- Opinions Vary.

yes his gut expanded, so did every other pro especially the guys that won the olympia so what is your point?

i went with the 2 pics that were posted in this thread

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