How many Getbiggers have taken the Myers Briggs personality test?

[Humble Narcissist]

Can you show me evidence that demonstrates that its predictable?

Can you show me a better model that the public can understand without needing a phd?

[friedchickendinner]

What does it tell you about the personality of people taking personality tests?

[SF1900]

It's the most used and recognised model available. And usually pretty accurate.

Furthermore, the test itself is inherently flawed by the way it allows one to answer questions. It creates a dichotomous view of personality, which is not the way contemporary personality theorists view personality. As such, it's not accurate in describing someone's personality. I mean, they have done study after study, which showed that more than 50% of people receive different results as early as 5 weeks later, making it highly unreliable. It also has been shown to be a poor predictor of job performance, educational success, and personality traits over time, which is why most personality theorists do not talk about personality "traits" in the strict sense, but have revised models that talk more about personality "states." There are lots of other reasons why its a horrible personality measurement, but I think the greatest reason, based on my research, other than poor reliability and validity, is that it views personality as dichotomous (trait) instead of more state based.

As for why its continued to be used, well, people have invested a lot of money in it (like anything). It's the same with DARE in school. DARE doesn't work, but the government continues to sink money in it. DARE has a cult following, like the MBT.

You can just take what the internet tells you or you can do your own research about it. Based on this conversation, you will likely just continue to accept the idea that it's a valid and reliable measure, despite all scientific research proving otherwise. People will draw their own conclusions.

Good day.

[MAXX]

Where is it the most used model?

In serious settings, such as jails, courts, academic testing, forensic settings, hospitals, private practice, it's rarely used or recognized. In some, it still may be used.

The MBT has its cult following, but its rarely used in any serious setting.

How do you know it's accurate? How can it be accurate if it has poor reliability and validity? I'd love for you to explain that to me. lol.

I'm no expert in psychology or these tests. I just know it's the most widely used test. And has been for many years. Probably so for a reason. And it was accurate for me and most others that did the test at the same time as me.

[SF1900]

I'm no expert in psychology or these tests. I just know it's the most widely used test. And has been for many years. Probably so for a reason. And it was accurate for me and most others that did the test at the same time as me.

Again, if an assessment measure has poor reliability and validity, it cannot be accurate (face palm).

It's the most widely used in non-scientific settings because its the most easiest to understand by non-scientific lay people who don't have an understanding of psychometrics (marketing and business people). But, that doesn't make it reliable or accurate.

This person explains it best: "It is widely used by people who don't understand psychometrics, such as laypeople and marketing people. If I have to take a guess, I'd say that the topological (categorical) as opposed to continuous approach is easier to understand and thus has higher appeal to non-experts."

On that note, believe what you want. You can't debate with ignorance.

[MAXX]

Again, if an assessment measure has poor reliability and validity, it cannot be accurate (face palm).

It's the most widely used in non-scientific settings because its the most easiest to understand by non-scientific lay people who don't have an understanding of psychometrics (marketing and business people). But, that doesn't make it reliable or accurate.

This person explains it best: "It is widely used by people who don't understand psychometrics, such as laypeople and marketing people. If I have to take a guess, I'd say that the topological (categorical) as opposed to continuous approach is easier to understand and thus has higher appeal to non-experts."

On that note, believe what you want. You can't debate with ignorance.

Maybe you're right. Where did you get information about poor reliability and accuracy though?  And how do you actually go about measuring its accuracy.

[B_B_C]

You can't debate with ignorance.

What with nearly 50k posts to your credit you must know that getbig contradicts that statement

[SF1900]

Maybe you're right. Where did you get information about poor reliability and accuracy though?  And how do you actually go about measuring its accuracy.

I got it from the numerous studies that have studied the reliability and validity of the MBTI. If a test is truly consistent and reliable, it will stand up to the numerous methods, as described below.

In terms of accuracy, we would be talking about validity, not reliability, as a test can have high reliability, but poor validity. Meaning, you can get the same results over and over again (reliability), but not the results you necessarily want (validity). Remember, a test can be reliable (consistent) without being valid (accuracy).

So, you go about measuring the validity and reliability of a test through a variety of means, such as test re-test reliability, alternate forms of reliability, inter-item correlations (internal consistency), inter-rater reliability. As for validity, there is criterion and content-related validity and you go about measuring these through models such as predictive or concurrent validity, etc. No personality test is 100% accurate, but the MBTI is horrible in this regard. These are ways in which one would measure the accuracy/consistency of a test and before the establishment of any assessment measure, there is a process to ensure the test is reliable and/or valid (this goes for any scientific assessment measure).

The MMPI is probably the most widely used and accurate/reliable measure of personality, as it has has shown consistency and accuracy across numerous populations.

[SF1900]

What with nearly 50k posts to your credit you must know that getbig contradicts that statement

Touche. 

[Humble Narcissist]

Scientology uses the Oxford Capacity Analysis.

[Primemuscle]

What good is a model if it doesn't tell you accurate predictions?

Horoscopes are a model. Do you think they are reliable and valid of one's personality?

Nope. But horoscopes are fun to read never-the-less. Just don't take what they say seriously.

[IroNat]

[prowlermaniac]

Pretty spot on.  I am an Architect

Personality

INTJ-A / INTJ-T

[chaos]

MBP has poor reliability and validity. It really says nothing about one's personality.

I answered all of the questions as if I were you.

Logician
INTP-a

 

[SF1900]

I answered all of the questions as if I were you.

Logician
INTP-a

 

 Lmao! 

[Humble Narcissist]

Looks like all introverts which is what I would expect from bodybuilders.  I always hated team sports.

[FrancoGironda]

I did the test and got  Debater ENTP-a

[ESFitness]

Always thought I was ENTP (took it in like 06?), But this time says I'm
ESTP-T

All you introverts hahaha... Makes sense why do many say "oh bullshit you didn't do that!" While I'm out doing shit, posting on my phone at beach, or getting my hand casted the other night, you're all sitting in your basements, wishing and wanting.

[galain]

I got it from the numerous studies that have studied the reliability and validity of the MBTI. If a test is truly consistent and reliable, it will stand up to the numerous methods, as described below.

In terms of accuracy, we would be talking about validity, not reliability, as a test can have high reliability, but poor validity. Meaning, you can get the same results over and over again (reliability), but not the results you necessarily want (validity). Remember, a test can be reliable (consistent) without being valid (accuracy).

So, you go about measuring the validity and reliability of a test through a variety of means, such as test re-test reliability, alternate forms of reliability, inter-item correlations (internal consistency), inter-rater reliability. As for validity, there is criterion and content-related validity and you go about measuring these through models such as predictive or concurrent validity, etc. No personality test is 100% accurate, but the MBTI is horrible in this regard. These are ways in which one would measure the accuracy/consistency of a test and before the establishment of any assessment measure, there is a process to ensure the test is reliable and/or valid (this goes for any scientific assessment measure).

The MMPI is probably the most widely used and accurate/reliable measure of personality, as it has has shown consistency and accuracy across numerous populations.

Good post. Are they still using the MMPI? I used to work in the field and was an MBTI trainer/tester but even back in the early 90s it was easy to see results were never consistent across a cohort.

(INFP here, for whatever it's worth).

[SF1900]

Good post. Are they still using the MMPI? I used to work in the field and was an MBTI trainer/tester but even back in the early 90s it was easy to see results were never consistent across a cohort.

(INFP here, for whatever it's worth).

Oh, yes, the MMPI is still used in mostly all scientific settings.

In 2008, they came out with the MMPI-2-RF, which has 338 questions.

The MBTI is used often because it’s easy to use by lay people, but has major flaws.

[wes]

Always thought I was ENTP (took it in like 06?), But this time says I'm
ESTP-T

All you introverts hahaha... Makes sense why do many say "oh bullshit you didn't do that!" While I'm out doing shit, posting on my phone at beach, or getting my hand casted the other night, you're all sitting in your basements, wishing and wanting.

It`s great to see you`re still an imbecile who`s full of shit.

[SF1900]

It`s great to see you`re still an imbecile who`s full of shit.

 

[Humble Narcissist]

Always thought I was ENTP (took it in like 06?), But this time says I'm
ESTP-T

All you introverts hahaha... Makes sense why do many say "oh bullshit you didn't do that!" While I'm out doing shit, posting on my phone at beach, or getting my hand casted the other night, you're all sitting in your basements, wishing and wanting.

Yeah, I'm sure you've accomplished more than Arnold and Eastwood.

[wes]

Yeah, I'm sure you've accomplished more than Arnold and Eastwood.

This fucking liar has had more injuries than Evel Kneivdel...........fucki ng liar,

I`m not done with this prison fag hag by a long shot............threaten ing my wife is not very smart.

And fuck prison I grew up with dudes that did 5 times his sentence standing on their heads................... .....doesn`t make him billy bad ass in my book just makes him stupid cuz he got caught.

[ESFitness]

This fucking liar has had more injuries than Evel Kneivdel...........fucki ng liar,

I`m not done with this prison fag hag by a long shot............threaten ing my wife is not very smart.

And fuck prison I grew up with dudes that did 5 times his sentence standing on their heads................... .....doesn`t make him billy bad ass in my book just makes him stupid cuz he got caught.

Not done? Hahaha dude, you're an insecure old man who acts like a BITCH, a sniffling little BITCH on a bodybuilding mag board.
You've always been free to contact me, yet all you do is run your fingers on these main boards.

How's that lung cancer? Maybe you shoulda thought about that when you were huffing gas and smoking crack for decades straight. Your wife start up her POF account yet? Or she just go straight to blow-banging the garbage men for the time being?