John Meadows in hospital after heart attack

[Rambone]

 

[Rambone]

Doubt it

Bbers consider trt to be 300 mg a wk to 500+ hahaha

Most of these guys continue until dialysis, waiting on a kidney transplant, or have their lower leg lopped off

Do you want to show up to your own funeral in a pine box looking like Bud Cort from Mash? Ya gotta prep for your viewing like it’s the NOC (Night of Corpses). Wayne Demilia’s doing my eulogy and the pallbearers are gonna do quarter turns with my casket.

[Coach is Back!]

Update on John's condition. His arteries have no plaque buildup, but he did have 2 massive blood clots blocking 2 arteries. He has been in constant pain, but today thery were able to clear one of the arteries. They are going to try again tomorrow on the other. This could be tied to the blood disorder from 2005 when he lost his colon.

[vascsurgeon]

Palumbo says it makes no sense to donate, one of the main benefits of steroids are the increased red blood cells.

It makes no sense to him, that's different than being sensible. Examine Palumbo's physique, health and education. That should be enough to realize he should not be someone giving advice to anyone on any level.

[LanceD]

Still alive per wife.

[johnnynoname]

[Matt]

Source?

[Rambone]

Still alive per wife.

Fuck off.

[oldtimer1]

Wonder if he will still use steroids after this?

[deadz]

Wonder if he will still use abuse steroids after this?

Use and abuse are completely different. You can use moderate doses and be perfectly healthy. There is a lot more to using than injecting. You have to be extremely proactive about your health.

[deadz]

What happened to ALL the "FITNESS GURUS" on You tube during this pandemic. They are deflating in their parents basement. John Mountaindog Meadows was the only one posting content almost daily. Fuck those other phony fitness fags on Social Media!

[pellius]

Meadows seems like a really good guy and very knowledgeable.

[Marty Champions]

Wouldnt even let you put a bandaid on me neegul

in our future every remedy will trace back to me while the sick ignored the signs

[That_Dude]

Wish him a full and speedy recovery. He seems genuine and I find his videos to be honest and informative.

[Primemuscle]

I'm not sure it's very important. I spoke in person with a professor/endo who has been working with steroid "abusers" for decades, trying to restart their HPTAs or putting them on legit HRT. He admitted to me that there is no proof that blood donation reduces any theoretical risks due to high hematocrit. He sometimes did it anyway "because we just don't like to see high lab values" even in the absence of evidence that high crit is dangerous in the absence of high BP. Some people have high levels "naturally" due to, for example, living at high altitude, which hasn't been shown to be dangerous. Blood donation has some potential acute risks as well.

I know from personal experience that blood loss lowers hematocrit.

[Primemuscle]

Palumbo says it makes no sense to donate, one of the main benefits of steroids are the increased red blood cells.

Palumbo i the picture of health.....not.

[LanceD]

https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/john-meadows-suffers-heart-attack/

[Primemuscle]

'Flushed skin occurs when the blood vessels just below the skin widen and fill with more blood. For most people, occasional flushing is normal and can result from being too hot, exercising, or emotional responses. Flushed skin can also be a side effect of drinking alcohol or taking certain medications.'

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323219

[wes]

What a fucking buffoon !!

EDIT:

Not John but Marty..................g uys a fucking tard.

[Van_Bilderass]

I know from personal experience that blood loss lowers hematocrit.

Sure. The question is if therapeutic phlebotomy is warranted in HRT patients. Some HRT docs say yes and some say no.
Like I said I spoke to one doc who admitted that the evidence of benefit is weak but that he did it anyway.

I don't know if John donated regularly, though I'm sure he had frequent labs done. I did see John say recently that kidney issues would be more and more common in bodybuilders in the future, especially considering the amount of tren used today.

[Primemuscle]

Sure. The question is if therapeutic phlebotomy is warranted in HRT patients. Some HRT docs say yes and some say no.
Like I said I spoke to one doc who admitted that the evidence of benefit is weak but that he did it anyway.

I don't know if John donated regularly, though I'm sure he had frequent labs done. I did see John say recently that kidney issues would be more and more common in bodybuilders in the future, especially considering the amount of tren used today.

I've been on HRT for several years. Only in the last couple of years has my hematocrit begun to climb. It's still within range, so I am not too worried about it. However, my urologist is and he's my prescribing doctor. If I can keep it under 54% by letting some blood, seems easy enough. Staying in range doesn't hurt.

[wes]

Do you mean a DEVIL DOC? 

Don Youngblood did.  Chad Nicholls prepped Youngblood for the 2001 and 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, as well as for the 2002 Mr. Olympia contest, when Youngblood was 48 years old, and fresh off his 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia win.

As far as John Meadows is concerned, short answer: I think John was/is mostly his own coach.

Long answer: I'm not aware of John Meadows working with anyone reckless - or...let me put that another way: I don't see John as being the sort of guy who would ever be in a situation where he doesn't have full veto power over everything he does for bodybuilding and contest prep.

In other words, John had a great deal of bodybuilding knowledge, and I don't see him as being the sort of guy to do a dangerous drug cocktail unless he himself wanted to do it.

I am a lot more confident in my belief that Don Youngblood would have eaten or injected anything Chad Nicholls put in front of him.  John has been studying bodybuilding since he was 13 years old [basically since he watched the 1985 Mr. Olympia as a teenage boy], and I don't see him doing anything reckless that he didn't put serious consideration into.

I'm not saying John didn't do anything reckless, gear-wise, I'm just saying he wouldn't inject a dangerous cocktail of cutting agents just because a guru told him to do it.  If a guru told him to do it, and he felt it was sound advice, I could see him doing it.  But I couldn't see him take on any risks that he didn't give serious thought to, regarding the costs and benefits.

Competing in bodybuilding is a risk, period.  Especially over 40.  So he knew what he was getting into.

LOL @ short answer   

[Bevo]

Use and abuse are completely different. You can use moderate doses and be perfectly healthy. There is a lot more to using than injecting. You have to be extremely proactive about your health.

What exactly is “moderate dosages?” 500 mg a wk?  I take it you are still in your 30’s? Mindset is a lot different at that age

[joswift]

What happened to ALL the "FITNESS GURUS" on You tube during this pandemic. They are deflating in their parents basement. John Mountaindog Meadows was the only one posting content almost daily. Fuck those other phony fitness fags on Social Media!

I have been using his band workout vids
Great content, really simple to follow , the leg workout one was hard work

[JuicedKangaroo]

Palumbo says it makes no sense to donate, one of the main benefits of steroids are the increased red blood cells.

Did he really? That's kinda funny

Wonder how thick his blood is