AJ=a real man.

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[Humble Narcissist]

He was a very interesting and successful guy and he loved young women.

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&t=1231s    boyer is said to be the only one out of the three nautilus guys to give it a real try. both mentzers were said to dog it.

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[Grape Ape]

pffft.

thought this was a thread about _aj_

[funk51]

pffft.

thought this was a thread about _aj_

    no it's actually bodybuilding related as arthur jones tried to change an industry stuck in old ideals about training for better or worse. sorry to disappoint you.             

[el numero uno]

The only A.J. I care about.

[oldschoolfan]

Although not mentioned much Arthur’s son Gary jones helped design a lot of the nautilus models

Gary went on to start hammer smith and life fitness

[Grape Ape]

    no it's actually bodybuilding related as arthur jones tried to change an industry stuck in old ideals about training for better or worse. sorry to disappoint you.           

_aj_ is bb related since he competed this past year

[The Scott]

&t=1231s    boyer is said to be the only one out of the three nautilus guys to give it a real try. both mentzers were said to dog it.

Boyer looks pretty much natural there.  He probably wasn't but he does not look "Boyer", if you will.  He really did look to be training hard though.  Good stuff so thank you, sir!

[oldtimer1]

Joe Means who won best legs and most muscular in the 1976 AAU Mr. America trained for a while at Nautilus. They praise him heavily for his work ethic. He said they did one set but it was a triple drop in weight.

[Hypertrophy]

    no it's actually bodybuilding related as arthur jones tried to change an industry stuck in old ideals about training for better or worse. sorry to disappoint you.             

Arthur Jones changed nothing. He just wanted to sell machines. It didn't make sense to have people sit on them for 5 sets or so- the gyms wouldn't make money that way because there would be no throughput.

I've looked at just about every controlled medical study I can find and there is scant evidence that going to failure helps at all. In fact it triggers cortisol very easily and you decondition waiting for the recovery to finish. The 2-3 warmup sets followed by 2 working sets works as good as anything ever developed. And that's the 5x5 routine Reg park helped popularize.

All of Jones success stories were using guys on PEDS. And Dorian helped usher in the GH era.

[Irongrip400]

pffft.

thought this was a thread about _aj_

The only dude with calves smaller than me.

[Straw Man]

According to Arthur Jones this is all you need to reach your maximum genetic potential

I'm a bit dubious

http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Bulletin1/39.PDF

I've tried whole body training and I can never stick with it for more than a few weeks.  I always find myself preferring 8-12 sets per bodypart per workout

BTW - here is one of the thing AJ recommends that is rarely ever mentioned when discussing his theories

This should be done in the performance of sets of at least six full repetitions and not more than twenty
full repetitions; but in all cases, additional partial repetitions should also be performed until a point is
reached where any amount of movement is impossible.

[Straw Man]

Boyer looks pretty much natural there.  He probably wasn't but he does not look "Boyer", if you will.  He really did look to be training hard though.  Good stuff so thank you, sir!

looks totally off there
He was bigger as a teenager

I think I recall reading that AJ lost interest in his training experiment with Boyer when he realized Boyer was getting smaller and weaker each week.

[The Scott]

looks totally off there
He was bigger as a teenager

I think I recall reading that AJ lost interest in his training experiment with Boyer when he realized Boyer was getting smaller and weaker each week.

You are correct, sir.  Well stated.

[oldtimer1]

looks totally off there
He was bigger as a teenager

I think I recall reading that AJ lost interest in his training experiment with Boyer when he realized Boyer was getting smaller and weaker each week.

Looks like Boyer was off cycle and getting weaker. Don't get me wrong he looks  in great shape but no where near his steroid stage ready self. I wonder if AJ caught him starting a cycle if he it would have kept his interest as he blew up and gained strength.

[Humble Narcissist]

Arthur Jones changed nothing. He just wanted to sell machines. It didn't make sense to have people sit on them for 5 sets or so- the gyms wouldn't make money that way because there would be no throughput.

I've looked at just about every controlled medical study I can find and there is scant evidence that going to failure helps at all. In fact it triggers cortisol very easily and you decondition waiting for the recovery to finish. The 2-3 warmup sets followed by 2 working sets works as good as anything ever developed. And that's the 5x5 routine Reg park helped popularize.

All of Jones success stories were using guys on PEDS. And Dorian helped usher in the GH era.

This.  Jones was a genius marketer able to convince millions to buy into his bullshit.  How many athletes or just regular people train solely or even partially on Nautilus today?  If his method of training to failure on machines was so good every NFL, NHL, rugby teams as well as all Olympic athletes that use strength and power would be training this way.  None are.

[funk51]

the dolphins were  the first team to buy the nautilus line . they started in 1971 result they won 2 out of the three super bowls they were in 71 lost 72 won 73 won. 1972 was the undefeated season.did they have an advantage because of these machines who knows.

[Humble Narcissist]

I doubt it or the Dolphins and everyone else would still be using them.