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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2020, 03:35:52 AM »
I have a good modern car. I dont make comparisons to the standards of living, you do and try. It's pluses and minuses everywhere. You have a very distorted view on Russia that's your problem not mine and you're lying about poor people in USA with cars, air condition etc etc etc. Your poor people are lying on the streets in a box pumped by meth and antidepressants

Actually, you made the comparison to the standards of living by posing the question as to the buying power of your dollar equivalent to ours. The implication is crystal clear. You were trying to be clever but failed because though your dollar is worth more you have very little of it compared to the US. The average annual income in your country is $6,600. In the US it's $63,000. If an average American came to your country with a middle class American income they would be rich with ten times the average income of your people. You were trying to be clever but failed.

It is you that have a distorted view of America. You act like people all around the country are homeless and living in the streets. It's confined to a few Liberal States like California, Hawaii, New York. And these homeless people are not on the streets  because they are poor it's because they have mental problems, drug addicts, criminals, and some just choose to live on the streets. Anybody in America if they have an ounce of ambition and willing to work can provide a comfortable living. Maybe if I feel like it I'll run by the housing project near where I live. All those people are there because their income is below the poverty level.

I don't have any problems with you living in Russia, or Russia's standard of living. I'm happy living here in Hawaii near the ocean breathing, fresh clean, ocean air and enjoying the year round good weather. I'll stay here and you stay there.

BTW, isn't there any Russian bbing boards you can post on? Why is everybody in the world drawn to America and everything American and not Russian? I don't think there is a single American on this board that have the slightest interest in going to a Russian message board even if they could speak Russian. Which very few do because it's pretty much a useless language in the rest of the world unlike English which everybody in the world has to learn or wants to learn.

BTW, can you post a picture of your "modern" car? I'll post a picture of my brand new Toyota Tacoma.

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2020, 03:40:00 AM »
US is 20.5T GDP
China is 13.5T GDP
Russia is 1.6T GDP

nobody is remotely close to replacing the US.

The QE is fine as we are in deflafion. It is standard to print like  mofo to offset outflows from asset classes and everyone is doing it so we are all in the same boat.

Hyperinflation is 50% inflation per month. Majority of thr Western world sits around 1.5% per year. Even with trillions in QE we are all still around 1.5% inflation for this full year.

Interest rates correlate to inflation. Therefore if interest rate are at zero, that answers your inflation question (CPI).

I love it when you talk micro economics. You know your stuff. I did better on the macro side.

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #77 on: September 26, 2020, 03:42:20 AM »
No body is going to replace USA, you will vanish by itself, just wait for the a November election
 5 ways GDP gets it totally wrong as a measure of our success
 https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/01/gdp-frog-matchbox-david-pilling-growth-delusion/
     

LOL! You can spin it anyway you want but no one, not even you, believes the Russian economy and their economic system come close to America. That's why the Soviet Union fell. 

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2020, 04:20:00 AM »
Actually, you made the comparison to the standards of living by posing the question as to the buying power of your dollar equivalent to ours. The implication is crystal clear. You were trying to be clever but failed because though your dollar is worth more you have very little of it compared to the US. The average annual income in your country is $6,600. In the US it's $63,000. If an average American came to your country with a middle class American income they would be rich with ten times the average income of your people. You were trying to be clever but failed.

It is you that have a distorted view of America. You act like people all around the country are homeless and living in the streets. It's confined to a few Liberal States like California, Hawaii, New York. And these homeless people are not on the streets  because they are poor it's because they have mental problems, drug addicts, criminals, and some just choose to live on the streets. Anybody in America if they have an ounce of ambition and willing to work can provide a comfortable living. Maybe if I feel like it I'll run by the housing project near where I live. All those people are there because their income is below the poverty level.

I don't have any problems with you living in Russia, or Russia's standard of living. I'm happy living here in Hawaii near the ocean breathing, fresh clean, ocean air and enjoying the year round good weather. I'll stay here and you stay there.

BTW, isn't there any Russian bbing boards you can post on? Why is everybody in the world drawn to America and everything American and not Russian? I don't think there is a single American on this board that have the slightest interest in going to a Russian message board even if they could speak Russian. Which very few do because it's pretty much a useless language in the rest of the world unlike English which everybody in the world has to learn or wants to learn.

BTW, can you post a picture of your "modern" car? I'll post a picture of my brand new Toyota Tacoma.

I didn't make a comparison I was replying to teutonic night 1 who was trying to make a point nor I was responding you. You're not that much richer than Russians, more likely you're much more indebted and can be thrown out of a home very easily. Russians can live and move anywhere and come to every board they would like. Like Russians coming to the USA to spread the Russian world and semen, unlike you, a typical american that will never become a Russian. You're black?

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2020, 04:22:06 AM »
LOL! You can spin it anyway you want but no one, not even you, believes the Russian economy and their economic system come close to America. That's why the Soviet Union fell.

 Soviet Union fell, the US will fall, ask onemorerep. And remember the Big Theatre in Moscow is older than the US state, it's not for you to teach me, the "prosperity" of the USA is only due to that two world wars weren't fought on its soil. The times have changed aren't they...

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2020, 04:53:28 AM »
No body is going to replace USA, you will vanish by itself, just wait for the a November election
 5 ways GDP gets it totally wrong as a measure of our   

Trump had the US economy firing like a demon pre covid. He had you on a good path. You need him to win economically although i think the left will meltdown and go full retard and mess you up socially. Catch 22.

GDP is manipulated, sure. but everybody manipulates it so it's a pretty level playing field. Every metric is played with, you need to draw a line in the sand, accept it and move on because the central banks don't give a shit. They use it.

The US doesn't vanish. Look over all these threads, so many calls for collapse yet it hasnt happened. The trillions in QE yet inflation is tracking to 1.5% and interest rates are to be cut further........

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #81 on: September 26, 2020, 04:56:14 AM »
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« Reply #82 on: September 26, 2020, 04:58:07 AM »

The US doesn't vanish. Look over all these threads, so many calls for collapse yet it hasnt happened. The trillions in QE yet inflation is tracking to 1.5% and interest rates are to be cut further........




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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #83 on: September 26, 2020, 05:02:47 AM »


The US doesn't vanish. Look over all these threads, so many calls for collapse yet it hasnt happened. The trillions in QE yet inflation is tracking to 1.5% and interest rates are to be cut further........
It's not about a one day sudden collapse. We are talking different thing like a post WW2 in late 40's USA gdp in the world was like 40%, today it's 15%...

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #84 on: September 26, 2020, 05:08:43 AM »

I use CPI which is a standard published global inflation metric.

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #85 on: September 26, 2020, 05:20:56 AM »
It's not about a one day sudden collapse. We are talking different thing like a post WW2 in late 40's USA gdp in the world was like 40%, today it's 15%...

The US and most countries outsourced virtually all manufacturing to China. Then we outsourced calls centres. Then we outsourced tech. Then we outsourced programming. Then we outsourced warehousing etc.

China has grown because of the western world's decision to make it grow. If the US stops, China stops. China even pegs it's currency to the USD.

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« Reply #86 on: September 26, 2020, 05:29:55 AM »
The US and most countries outsourced virtually all manufacturing to China. Then we outsourced calls centres. Then we outsourced tech. Then we outsourced programming. Then we outsourced warehousing etc.

China has grown because of the western world's decision to make it grow. If the US stops, China stops. China even pegs it's currency to the USD.

 China has done it by its very own decision, not you, don't flatter yourself. Try to make it undone and unseen, give it try, make an effort

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #87 on: September 26, 2020, 06:00:53 AM »
US is 20.5T GDP
China is 13.5T GDP
Russia is 1.6T GDP

nobody is remotely close to replacing the US.

The QE is fine as we are in deflafion. It is standard to print like  mofo to offset outflows from asset classes and everyone is doing it so we are all in the same boat.

Hyperinflation is 50% inflation per month. Majority of thr Western world sits around 1.5% per year. Even with trillions in QE we are all still around 1.5% inflation for this full year.

Interest rates correlate to inflation. Therefore if interest rate are at zero, that answers your inflation question (CPI).

Alright, let us explore some of the different ideas that you have presented here and see if they can be used to validate your claims. You threw out both micro/macroeconomic concepts and we can explore both.

US is 20.5T GDP
China is 13.5T GDP
Russia is 1.6T GDP

nobody is remotely close to replacing the US.

Addressing the MACRO-

First, with regards to a nation replacing the US, it's difficult to even begin to fathom the idea of replacing the USA when in comparison to those two other countries when China (socialist market economy) and Russia (mixed + transition economy) have completely different types of economies. It is literally comparing apples to oranges by way of economic terms. We’re capitalists, they are not. If there was another capitalist world power working closely with both China and Russia, then maybe we would have a suitable replacement, but there isn't. So that idea when presented as a comparison of the 3 towards probable replacement of the USA has no merit.

What we do know is that back in the late 1920s, the USA was one of its kind in terms of its economic prosperity and that didn't stop us from falling into the Great Depression. History is once again repeating itself by way of the US finding itself in a massive debt bubble that is on the verge of bursting. My original question posed in this thread was whether or not China and Russia could be collaborating towards an overthrow of the USA by way of a coup against the dollar. The bilateral foreign market trading between China & Russia has shown us that since 2015 the use of the US dollar for trade between those nations has drastically fallen from over 90% (2015) to just around 46% (2020). This shows us that while the goal might not be to replace the US with another capitalistic superpower, the goal might instead be to simply have it be crushed under the weight of its own debt and by way of de-dollarization/loss of FIAT status due to a lack of use of the USD in foreign markets.

Your comparison of nominal GDP between the US, China and Russia isn't really a great indicator of the overall economic health between the three nations. While one can argue that GDP is a good indicator of the economic health of a particular country, you're using nominal GDP, which mainly shows us that the US is a rich country. Nominal GDP can very easily fool the eyes as we saw in the roaring 1920s, when the nation experienced amazing economic growth boasting of a GDP that grew by 42% and the stock market having over 20% growth per year and then magically by 1929 we had The Great Depression of US history.  What we aren't dissecting into is the real GDP per capita, which would in turn show us the true disparity between the standard of living amongst Americans, in other words the true welfare of its citizens. I think if you evaluate the real GDP per capita, you will notice that the USA has been in a rapid decline for the last 1-2 years (full 2019 - couple quarters into 2020), which further shows us that there is a growing disparity between the rich and the poor and the overall purchasing power that our various classes do or do not appreciate.


Blame it on Coronavirus if you'd like, but to have Q2 2020 (2nd) at -31.7% and previously a Q1 2020 (3rd) at -5.0% is dangerous territory. It's as if we've entered into the perfect storm and we're using Coronavirus as the wool to hide our economic downfall through.

Aside from the shortcomings of using nominal GDP as a comparison between nations, you can't forget the fact that depending on which nation you live in, GDP is nothing more than a number given that places like China can artificially increase their GDP at will by way of underhanded methods (building ghost towns, central bank providing equity to smaller companies redistributing wealth to boost GDP etc).

Again, the question raised was whether China & Russia could be collaborating towards a coup of the US dollar, which in turn could propel us towards another great depression by massive devaluation of the dollar and likely loss of our FIAT status.

Addressing the MICRO-

The QE is fine as we are in deflafion. It is standard to print like  mofo to offset outflows from asset classes and everyone is doing it so we are all in the same boat.

We are not in active deflation. The last time we were in a state of deflation was between 2007 & 2008. Please show where any US economist, the chair of the federal reserve or even our president has suggested that we are in active deflation. That is not happening at all at this point. We could get there, but we aren’t there.

Hyperinflation is 50% inflation per month. Majority of thr Western world sits around 1.5% per year. Even with trillions in QE we are all still around 1.5% inflation for this full year.

Interest rates correlate to inflation. Therefore if interest rate are at zero, that answers your inflation question (CPI).

The idea brought forth earlier is that if our economy continues to drop and we continue to print money & pump out stimulus packages (redistribution of wealth), that we can then head into inflation territory, inflation that if left unchecked can lead us into hyperinflation. Some online have been arguing that we are very much heading towards hyperinflation given numerous factors including: our GDP shrinking by over 30% during the second quarter (even if artificially by way of covid) + a deficit to outlay ratio that is topping over 60% (when the hyperinflation threshold is more around 40%) + the obvious devaluation of the US dollar by way of continued QE and lowering of interest rates. In other words, the writing is on the wall for what our future might have in store for us.

VERY Good chat..

"1"

P.S. Apologize for any grammatical errors or slight miscalculations within original post, as I typed this in early during my morning walk and I was still half asleep.

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #88 on: September 26, 2020, 06:39:51 AM »


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 It's hard to understand what onemorerep is trying to convey. It could have been easier to pose a direct and simple question like this - If China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar what we can do about this?

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« Reply #89 on: September 26, 2020, 06:46:25 AM »
It's hard to understand what onemorerep is trying to convey. It could have been easier to pose a direct and simple question like this - If China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar what we can do about this?

But its meant to be open ended. China and Russia could be collaborating or maybe they're not.

Its meant to explore what other people actively involved in finance, accounting and economics think. I like when you (RK) and MayDay give feedback based on hard figures and facts. It's the back and forth banter that occurs on GetBig that sometimes leads to actual mutual learning. As a side effect, I often receive messages from members (who do not have a strong education regarding domestic & international economics) sitting on the sidelines that learn a lot from these exchanges.

It's meaningful and relevant content as it discusses current day issues that can affect all of us.

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #90 on: September 26, 2020, 03:57:40 PM »
Alright, let us explore some of the different ideas that you have presented here and see if they can be used to validate your claims. You threw out both micro/macroeconomic concepts and we can explore both.

Addressing the MACRO-

First, with regards to a nation replacing the US, it's difficult to even begin to fathom the idea of replacing the USA when in comparison to those two other countries when China (socialist market economy) and Russia (mixed + transition economy) have completely different types of economies. It is literally comparing apples to oranges by way of economic terms. We’re capitalists, they are not. If there was another capitalist world power working closely with both China and Russia, then maybe we would have a suitable replacement, but there isn't. So that idea when presented as a comparison of the 3 towards probable replacement of the USA has no merit.

What we do know is that back in the late 1920s, the USA was one of its kind in terms of its economic prosperity and that didn't stop us from falling into the Great Depression. History is once again repeating itself by way of the US finding itself in a massive debt bubble that is on the verge of bursting. My original question posed in this thread was whether or not China and Russia could be collaborating towards an overthrow of the USA by way of a coup against the dollar. The bilateral foreign market trading between China & Russia has shown us that since 2015 the use of the US dollar for trade between those nations has drastically fallen from over 90% (2015) to just around 46% (2020). This shows us that while the goal might not be to replace the US with another capitalistic superpower, the goal might instead be to simply have it be crushed under the weight of its own debt and by way of de-dollarization/loss of FIAT status due to a lack of use of the USD in foreign markets.

Your comparison of nominal GDP between the US, China and Russia isn't really a great indicator of the overall economic health between the three nations. While one can argue that GDP is a good indicator of the economic health of a particular country, you're using nominal GDP, which mainly shows us that the US is a rich country. Nominal GDP can very easily fool the eyes as we saw in the roaring 1920s, when the nation experienced amazing economic growth boasting of a GDP that grew by 42% and the stock market having over 20% growth per year and then magically by 1929 we had The Great Depression of US history.  What we aren't dissecting into is the real GDP per capita, which would in turn show us the true disparity between the standard of living amongst Americans, in other words the true welfare of its citizens. I think if you evaluate the real GDP per capita, you will notice that the USA has been in a rapid decline for the last 1-2 years (full 2019 - couple quarters into 2020), which further shows us that there is a growing disparity between the rich and the poor and the overall purchasing power that our various classes do or do not appreciate.


Blame it on Coronavirus if you'd like, but to have Q2 2020 (2nd) at -31.7% and previously a Q1 2020 (3rd) at -5.0% is dangerous territory. It's as if we've entered into the perfect storm and we're using Coronavirus as the wool to hide our economic downfall through.

Aside from the shortcomings of using nominal GDP as a comparison between nations, you can't forget the fact that depending on which nation you live in, GDP is nothing more than a number given that places like China can artificially increase their GDP at will by way of underhanded methods (building ghost towns, central bank providing equity to smaller companies redistributing wealth to boost GDP etc).

Again, the question raised was whether China & Russia could be collaborating towards a coup of the US dollar, which in turn could propel us towards another great depression by massive devaluation of the dollar and likely loss of our FIAT status.

Addressing the MICRO-

We are not in active deflation. The last time we were in a state of deflation was between 2007 & 2008. Please show where any US economist, the chair of the federal reserve or even our president has suggested that we are in active deflation. That is not happening at all at this point. We could get there, but we aren’t there.

The idea brought forth earlier is that if our economy continues to drop and we continue to print money & pump out stimulus packages (redistribution of wealth), that we can then head into inflation territory, inflation that if left unchecked can lead us into hyperinflation. Some online have been arguing that we are very much heading towards hyperinflation given numerous factors including: our GDP shrinking by over 30% during the second quarter (even if artificially by way of covid) + a deficit to outlay ratio that is topping over 60% (when the hyperinflation threshold is more around 40%) + the obvious devaluation of the US dollar by way of continued QE and lowering of interest rates. In other words, the writing is on the wall for what our future might have in store for us.

VERY Good chat..

"1"

P.S. Apologize for any grammatical errors or slight miscalculations within original post, as I typed this in early during my morning walk and I was still half asleep.

You typed all this on your phone while walking?!!!

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #91 on: September 26, 2020, 04:37:17 PM »
You typed all this on your phone while walking?!!!

The skeleton of it, yes. Plus, remember, I didn't have to type it out, I simply dictated it directly into my phone, truly takes the guess work out of having to manually punch through every single letter key.

Once I got home, I added the chart and corrected my comments regarding GDP per capita from an analysis comparing it over 5 years to instead (what I meant) 5 quarters (2019-2020).

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #92 on: September 26, 2020, 05:01:08 PM »
Alright, let us explore some of the different ideas that you have presented here and see if they can be used to validate your claims. You threw out both micro/macroeconomic concepts and we can explore both.

Addressing the MACRO-

First, with regards to a nation replacing the US, it's difficult to even begin to fathom the idea of replacing the USA when in comparison to those two other countries when China (socialist market economy) and Russia (mixed + transition economy) have completely different types of economies. It is literally comparing apples to oranges by way of economic terms. We’re capitalists, they are not. If there was another capitalist world power working closely with both China and Russia, then maybe we would have a suitable replacement, but there isn't. So that idea when presented as a comparison of the 3 towards probable replacement of the USA has no merit.

What we do know is that back in the late 1920s, the USA was one of its kind in terms of its economic prosperity and that didn't stop us from falling into the Great Depression. History is once again repeating itself by way of the US finding itself in a massive debt bubble that is on the verge of bursting. My original question posed in this thread was whether or not China and Russia could be collaborating towards an overthrow of the USA by way of a coup against the dollar. The bilateral foreign market trading between China & Russia has shown us that since 2015 the use of the US dollar for trade between those nations has drastically fallen from over 90% (2015) to just around 46% (2020). This shows us that while the goal might not be to replace the US with another capitalistic superpower, the goal might instead be to simply have it be crushed under the weight of its own debt and by way of de-dollarization/loss of FIAT status due to a lack of use of the USD in foreign markets.

Your comparison of nominal GDP between the US, China and Russia isn't really a great indicator of the overall economic health.

Addressing the MICRO-

We are not in active deflation. The last time we were in a state of deflation was between 2007 & 2008. Please show where any US economist, the chair of the federal reserve or even our president has suggested that we are in active deflation. That is not happening at all at this point. We could get there, but we aren’t there.

The idea brought forth earlier is that if our economy continues to drop and we continue to print money & pump out stimulus packages (redistribution of wealth), that we can then head into inflation territory, inflation that if left unchecked can lead us into hyperinflation. Some online have been arguing that we are very much heading towards hyperinflation given numerous factors including: our GDP shrinking by over 30% during the second quarter (even if artificially by way of covid) + a deficit to outlay ratio that is topping over 60% (when the hyperinflation threshold is more around 40%) + the obvious devaluation of the US dollar by way of continued QE and lowering of interest rates. In other words, the writing is on the wall for what our future might have in store for us.

VERY Good chat..

"1"

P.S. Apologize for any grammatical errors or slight miscalculations within original post, as I typed this in early during my morning walk and I was still half asleep.

Don't apologise. My typos are from my crap Samsung keyboard. I should have answered in clearer detail before but i made it short as i was looking at house plans and enjoying a nice bottle of wine.

GDP is a representation of monetary flow.  There is more money flowing through the US across a vast makeup of industried than any other economy which means it is much more stable compared to any of the other currencies.

Eg i pay you USD100 today and tomorrow it's worth the same, the next day, the next and so on. Most keep USD on hand and so they avoid paying rates to convert (cost saving). I pay you RUB100 and fuck me you will run to the bank to exchange before it does God knows what. You can't keep a stash of RUB because of wild fluctuations so you will pay to convert.

I have had this same conversation with Asian customers wanting to constantly change between their local currency and the EUR for payments (small businesses, roughly EUR2M/yr purchases). I tell them all, you will wind up on the EUR due to fluctuations in their own currency. Sure as shit, all of them ended back on the EUR after their local currencies suffered massive swings. You need stability in a currency for a stable global economy to transact.

Ultimately, talk of removing the USD as the global currency requires an alternative which is equally as stable. For that, you want to look at 20.5T flow of currency as a comparison of what is required to take it's place.  China is still way off and no one is about to adopt the yuan.

I hope i answered that better this time?


Regarding deflation, i guess i need to be clearer again. I have many posts into why and how relating to QE but to avoid every post being a wall of text that nobody reads, i try to post brief answers. I barely post now as a result as my short answers end up requiring massive explanations :(

Remove QE, you have deflation. QE is being used to plug the outflows. Pure and simple, we are treading water.  We are not going into hyperinflation (50% inflation per month).

What so called 'experts' are not factoring into their predictions is that QE is an input in leui of what is supposed to be there already. in other words QE is not 'incremental to', it is 'instead of' which is why all this inflation predictions have been wrong and will continue to be wrong in the current climate........ once they stabilise, then you will find out what their inflation target is.

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #93 on: September 26, 2020, 05:25:59 PM »
Don't apologise. My typos are from my crap Samsung keyboard. I should have answered in clearer detail before but i made it short as i was looking at house plans and enjoying a nice bottle of wine.

GDP is a representation of monetary flow.  There is more money flowing through the US across a vast makeup of industried than any other economy which means it is much more stable compared to any of the other currencies.

Eg i pay you USD100 today and tomorrow it's worth the same, the next day, the next and so on. Most keep USD on hand and so they avoid paying rates to convert (cost saving). I pay you RUB100 and fuck me you will run to the bank to exchange before it does God knows what. You can't keep a stash of RUB because of wild fluctuations so you will pay to convert.

I have had this same conversation with Asian customers wanting to constantly change between their local currency and the EUR for payments (small businesses, roughly EUR2M/yr purchases). I tell them all, you will wind up on the EUR due to fluctuations in their own currency. Sure as shit, all of them ended back on the EUR after their local currencies suffered massive swings. You need stability in a currency for a stable global economy to transact.

Ultimately, talk of removing the USD as the global currency requires an alternative which is equally as stable. For that, you want to look at 20.5T flow of currency as a comparison of what is required to take it's place.  China is still way off and no one is about to adopt the yuan.

I hope i answered that better this time?


Regarding deflation, i guess i need to be clearer again. I have many posts into why and how relating to QE but to avoid every post being a wall of text that nobody reads, i try to post brief answers. I barely post now as a result as my short answers end up requiring massive explanations :(

Remove QE, you have deflation. QE is being used to plug the outflows. Pure and simple, we are treading water.  We are not going into hyperinflation (50% inflation per month).

What so called 'experts' are not factoring into their predictions is that QE is an input in leui of what is supposed to be there already. in other words QE is not 'incremental to', it is 'instead of' which is why all this inflation predictions have been wrong and will continue to be wrong in the current climate........ once they stabilise, then you will find out what their inflation target is.

Well written and understood!

I still think the US economy is heading towards a massive crash, but whether it will have any semblance to the great depression is yet to be determined.

I am actually closely pegging what the top 3 US hedge funds (I'm a Bridgewater Associates guy) are predicting and seeing whether their direction is correct.

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #94 on: September 27, 2020, 01:33:34 AM »
Russia used to be one of the major holders of US Treasuries, but since May 2017, it has been steadily cutting this investment, in line with its de-dollarization policy and in response to sanctions imposed by Washington.   

U.S. sanctions that were first imposed on Russia in 2014 made the country “anxious” at first, Putin told the audience of investors in Moscow, but he insisted they had in fact spurred the economy to be more self-reliant.

“We all have made a very serious and great step to increase our economic and technical sovereignty. In this sense, of all these limitations and sanctions were useful for our economy,” he said.

Putin added that sanctions had led to billions of dollars of trade losses for Europe and less for Russia. He also said that the U.S. had “shot themselves in the leg” by limiting U.S.-Russian trade.

https://worldwidenews.ru/2020/05/18/dump-the-dollar-russia-has-now-gotten-rid-of-over-96-of-its-us-debt-holdings/


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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #96 on: September 27, 2020, 03:26:40 AM »
I didn't make a comparison I was replying to teutonic night 1 who was trying to make a point nor I was responding you. You're not that much richer than Russians, more likely you're much more indebted and can be thrown out of a home very easily. Russians can live and move anywhere and come to every board they would like. Like Russians coming to the USA to spread the Russian world and semen, unlike you, a typical american that will never become a Russian. You're black?

Dumbo, you are just too bumped to be Russian.So why don't you live in Monaco, Singapore or Sydney when is so easy to go !.

Yeah, superhot chicks a lining up just for you on Cote d'Azur, Aussie Gold Coast & Waikiki !.

You are not streetwise by Western standard so stop pretending !.

Regarding 'black' (skin), some of them play for Russia at the World Cup 2018 (in Russia) :D

Why, not tell us about millions of Mongoloids in Russia , o dear  ::) !.

Perhaps you own a malyenkaya dacha on Nevsky Prospekt  ;D ;D ;D

(small house in upper classy Nevsky Avenue)

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #97 on: September 27, 2020, 03:49:27 AM »
Dumbo, you are just too bumped to be Russian.So why don't you live in Monaco, Singapore or Sydney when is so easy to go !.

Yeah, superhot chicks a lining up just for you on Cote d'Azur, Aussie Gold Coast & Waikiki !.

You are not streetwise by Western standard so stop pretending !.

Regarding 'black' (skin), some of them play for Russia at the World Cup 2018 (in Russia) :D

Why, not tell us about millions of Mongoloids in Russia , o dear  ::) !.

Perhaps you own a malyenkaya dacha on Nevsky Prospekt  ;D ;D ;D

(small house in upper classy Nevsky Avenue)

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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #98 on: September 27, 2020, 03:59:10 AM »
If pellius is only arrogant and naive, you're only stupid

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 I so sorry that small bread is so expensive in US, I cun buy 20 like this in Russia on 8 $



Looks like I know much more about Rusiya (Russia) than YOU !.

It's Artisan bread DUMBO !.


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Re: Are China & Russia quietly trying to form a coup against the U.S. dollar?
« Reply #99 on: September 27, 2020, 06:29:57 AM »
I live in a fellow BRICS country.

Do not need a visa to visit Russia.