Doug Brignole training videos

[joswift]

Depends on the angle of the incline.

Use 30 degrees.

if you want to fully contract your pecs where do you put your hands, are they over your head out vertical our clasped in front of you down by your waist?

That should tell you the best exercises for pecs

[pamith]

Depends on the angle of the incline.

Use 30 degrees.

Another irony is that most bodybuilders don't really lag upper chest that much, what they truly lack is LOWER chest. Look at all bodybuilders who were known for having a massive chest, they ALL had a ton of lower chest mass

[IroNat]

Another irony is that most bodybuilders don't really lag upper chest that much, what they truly lack is LOWER chest. Look at all bodybuilders who were known for having a massive chest, they ALL had a ton of lower chest mass

Build up your lower chest.  Then when your older you'll have tits.

[Humble Narcissist]

Build up your lower chest.  Then when your older you'll have tits.

Worked for Bruce Jenner.

[joswift]

Build up your lower chest.  Then when your older you'll have tits.

Do you seriously think you can build different parts of your chest?

[IroNat]

Do you seriously think you can build different parts of your chest?

Of course.

[joswift]

Of course.

[Hypertrophy]

Do you seriously think you can build different parts of your chest?

The sternal and clavicular heads of the pectoralis major share a lot of the same functions but differ in some movements. So yes, you can

https://breakingmuscle.com/fitness/how-to-develop-a-mans-pectorals-with-strength-training-exercises

[IroNat]

Can you affect different parts of the quads with certain exercises?

Yes, you can.

Biceps?  Triceps?  Back?  Calves?

Yes, you can.

[pellius]

I've listened to him and it's mainly bro-science.

What specifically has he said that you consider "bro-science"?

[Van_Bilderass]

I watched a little of the back training video, sounds reasonable.

This fella has good posts regarding anatomy

https://instagram.com/coach_kassem?igshid=1o2gm6i0b2znq

Has made me rethink some things. Like you don't want to arch your back when biasing the lats during pulls, not pulling arms beyond the midline on rows, not pinning down the scapula on back or chest exercises, the importance of stability and proper set-up, being aware of your "active range" and so on.
Seems like he is helping Jordan Peters lately

[joswift]

The sternal and clavicular heads of the pectoralis major share a lot of the same functions but differ in some movements. So yes, you can

https://breakingmuscle.com/fitness/how-to-develop-a-mans-pectorals-with-strength-training-exercises

you can hit less of the muscle by doing inclines, but a decline hits all of the muscle , so if you want to waste time you can do lots of incline press or stick to decline and get full development
The pecs are a downward pushing muscle

[pellius]

Can you affect different parts of the quads with certain exercises?

Yes, you can.

Biceps?  Triceps?  Back?  Calves?

Yes, you can.

If you are talking about "circular" type of joints such as the shoulders and neck then, yes. If you are talking about bend/straighten leverage joints then, no. By changing the angle you can work different portions of the delts and in some cases totally excluding a part of that muscle from the movement. For example, doing a rear delt movement will practically if not completely eliminate any contraction of the front delt.

When doing a curl, training the bicep, which simply involves moving the forearm towards the shoulder, meaning you can cut off your hand and still train your bicep fully. No matter what angle you place your arm in or how you twist you forearm the entire bicep will contract. You can't just train and specialize a certain part of that muscle. You can turn your forearm into a position where you will work the brachialis more and take some of the load off the bicep but if you think you can train the upper/low inner/outer head and think it will make any difference that would be incorrect.

People believe it, they try it, it never works. If your biceps naturally peak like Beckles, Coe, and Robinson then it doesn't matter what part of the bicep head you train? If it doesn't, you can do anything you want, like Kevin Levrone did, and still not have peak biceps.

Same like with calfs and quads. You are not going to get any more "inner calf" or hit that vastus medialis (tear drop) muscle by positioning or spacing out your toes or
feet. As your muscles get bigger and stronger the shape they take is genetically predetermined. I once read Boyer Cole's quad routine and he said that by taking a narrown stance he would hit the outer quad more. He never had any appreciable outer quad development though he had pretty good legs.

Don't believe me, try what Brignole did and specialize in whatever specific area you want and just to that for six months.

[pellius]

you can hit less of the muscle by doing inclines, but a decline hits all of the muscle , so if you want to waste time you can do lots of incline press or stick to decline and get full development
The pecs are a downward pushing muscle

I remember resisting an armbar being applied by a 16 year old kid, Gabriel Vella. I was in my mid thirties and I'll never forget it. I did want to tap so I didn't get my arm dislocated but I tore my upper pec. I knew it was the upper pec by how it felt and where the bruising was.

When my doctor would test my strength and range of motion during therapy he would always have me lie flat, extend my right arm to the side completely perpendicular to my body, meaning my hand, forearm, upper arm, shoulder, and neck would form a straight line. The he would have me raise my hand keeping that angel across my body stopping when my straight arm would be pointing in front. I asked him if I should do more of an incline angle to more isolate the upper pec. He replied that once your upper arm gets above shoulder level then it's more of the front delt that is doing the motion. I stated playing with different angles when flexing and notice that when I brought my hands/arms directly in front of me or in a slight incline positon and tried to contract my pecs I really couldn't feel anything. When I would bring them down and contracted them like when doing a most muscular then it was all pecs.

This is Gabriel Vella, I'm sure he has no idea who I am but I'll never forget him. I wasn't going to a tap to a 16 year old. What an idiot I was. BTW, some old timers might remember his father, former Brasilian body builder Luis Freitas. Who was at that time, late 1990,s a fat but still very huge and muscular chiropractor in Redondo Beach, CA.

[IroNat]

Vince Gironda gives his opinion.

[IroNat]

Is there a different effect on the quads if you do back squats vs. front squats vs. hack squats?

Is there a different effect on the back if you do lat pulldowns vs. bent over barbell rows vs. deadlifts?

Is there a different effect on the calves if you do donkey calf raises vs. seated calf raises?

Is there a different effect on the triceps if you do seated overhead presses vs. tricep cable pushdowns?

Will you look like Arnold if you work out like Arnold?

Will doing concentration curls give you a peak like Albert Beckles?

[joswift]

Is there a different effect on the quads if you do back squats vs. front squats vs. hack squats?

Is there a different effect on the back if you do lat pulldowns vs. bent over barbell rows vs. deadlifts?

Is there a different effect on the calves if you do donkey calf raises vs. seated calf raises?

Is there a different effect on the triceps if you do seated overhead presses vs. tricep cable pushdowns?

Will you look like Arnold if you work out like Arnold?

Will doing concentration curls give you a peak like Albert Beckles?

yes, do hacks with your toes point ing out for a great outer quad sweep you daft twat.

[IroNat]

yes, do hacks with your toes point ing out for a great outer quad sweep you daft twat.

[Hypertrophy]

you can hit less of the muscle by doing inclines, but a decline hits all of the muscle , so if you want to waste time you can do lots of incline press or stick to decline and get full development
The pecs are a downward pushing muscle

"The clavicular head also has another function: when the upper arm is flexed to around 110 degrees (slightly higher than parallel to the ground), it flexes and adducts the upper arm (raises toward the midline of the body)."

Ergo, the clavicular portion is not strictly a "downward pushing muscle"

You said you couldn't build different parts of your chest. You actually can.

[IroNat]

If you train like Steve Reeves will you become good looking?

[IroNat]

On a serious note, the exercises you do can affect the way your muscles develop according to your own potential.

You are not going to develop biceps like Larry Scott by doing preacher curls if you don't have similar muscle insertions and genetics.

You are not going to develop a chest like Arnold by following his routine. 

You will develop according to your own potential.

This does not mean doing certain exercises will not cause different effects.

Certain exercises can be better at achieving certain things.

Take four variations of the press:

Overhead press

Incline press

Flat press

Decline press

They are all presses.  The only difference is the angle.

Which one is best?  If all you do is overhead presses will your chest develop as well as someone doing flat presses? 

How about the reverse?  Will doing only flat presses improve the shoulders, traps, upper back as well as doing only overhead presses?

[pellius]

On a serious note, the exercises you do can affect the way your muscles develop according to your own potential.

You are not going to develop biceps like Larry Scott by doing preacher curls if you don't have similar muscle insertions and genetics.

You are not going to develop a chest like Arnold by following his routine. 

You will develop according to your own potential.

This does not mean doing certain exercises will not cause different effects.

Certain exercises can be better at achieving certain things.

Take four variations of the press:

Overhead press

Incline press

Flat press

Decline press

They are all presses.  The only difference is the angle.

Which one is best?  If all you do is overhead presses will your chest develop as well as someone doing flat presses? 

How about the reverse?  Will doing only flat presses improve the shoulders, traps, upper back as well as doing only flat presses?

Doing different exercises at different angles will have different effects on your body and the muscles but not in the way the muscles developed. For example, doing pushups versus doing tricep pushdowns will effect the body differently. With pushups you will be including the pecs and front delts more than the pushdowns which will primarily focus on the triceps but it will not have any effect on THE WAY your triceps develop. Just like hacks will more isolate your quads more than the squats you won't change the way your quads develop.

Most muscle contract completely when performing it's function. So you can't focus on upper quad or lower quad. The whole quad is going to working no matter the angle or exercise. I remember watching one of those infomercials where a guy was talking about targeting the upper, lower, and side glute. He had all these exercises you had to do to get maximum glute developement.

But there are exceptions because some muscles move in various directions such as the shoulders, so in that case you can isolate different parts of the shoulders. The traps are another one because it both raises your shoulders to your ears (your upper traps) and it also draws your shoulders and scapula back like when you stick out your chest and pinch your shoulders back. That will focus on the lower part or mid back of the traps and has a separate function than lifting the shoulders to your ears. Mike Mentzer had very good upper traps but also non-existent lower trap and his mid back looked hollow.

[Humble Narcissist]

I remember resisting an armbar being applied by a 16 year old kid, Gabriel Vella. I was in my mid thirties and I'll never forget it. I did want to tap so I didn't get my arm dislocated but I tore my upper pec. I knew it was the upper pec by how it felt and where the bruising was.

When my doctor would test my strength and range of motion during therapy he would always have me lie flat, extend my right arm to the side completely perpendicular to my body, meaning my hand, forearm, upper arm, shoulder, and neck would form a straight line. The he would have me raise my hand keeping that angel across my body stopping when my straight arm would be pointing in front. I asked him if I should do more of an incline angle to more isolate the upper pec. He replied that once your upper arm gets above shoulder level then it's more of the front delt that is doing the motion. I stated playing with different angles when flexing and notice that when I brought my hands/arms directly in front of me or in a slight incline positon and tried to contract my pecs I really couldn't feel anything. When I would bring them down and contracted them like when doing a most muscular then it was all pecs.

This is Gabriel Vella, I'm sure he has no idea who I am but I'll never forget him. I wasn't going to a tap to a 16 year old. What an idiot I was. BTW, some old timers might remember his father, former Brasilian body builder Luis Freitas. Who was at that time, late 1990,s a fat but still very huge and muscular chiropractor in Redondo Beach, CA.

Yes, I met Luis Freitas back in the late '80's or early '90's when he first became a pro.

[IroNat]

Doing different exercises at different angles will have different effects on your body and the muscles but not in the way the muscles developed. For example, doing pushups versus doing tricep pushdowns will effect the body differently. With pushups you will be including the pecs and front delts more than the pushdowns which will primarily focus on the triceps but it will not have any effect on THE WAY your triceps develop. Just like hacks will more isolate your quads more than the squats you won't change the way your quads develop.

Most muscle contract completely when performing it's function. So you can't focus on upper quad or lower quad. The whole quad is going to working no matter the angle or exercise. I remember watching one of those infomercials where a guy was talking about targeting the upper, lower, and side glute. He had all these exercises you had to do to get maximum glute developement.

But there are exceptions because some muscles move in various directions such as the shoulders, so in that case you can isolate different parts of the shoulders. The traps are another one because it both raises your shoulders to your ears (your upper traps) and it also draws your shoulders and scapula back like when you stick out your chest and pinch your shoulders back. That will focus on the lower part or mid back of the traps and has a separate function than lifting the shoulders to your ears. Mike Mentzer had very good upper traps but also non-existent lower trap and his mid back looked hollow.

So, you don't think doing front squats will develop your legs differently than doing back squats?

Leg extensions are a quad exercise.  Will your quads develop differently doing leg extensions vs. doing squats?

Will tricep cable pushdowns develop the triceps the same as tricep French presses?

[joswift]

So, you don't think doing front squats will develop your legs differently than doing back squats?

Leg extensions are a quad exercise.  Will your quads develop differently doing leg extensions vs. doing squats?