Author Topic: Essex Boys killer getting released (Read 3257 times)

denarii · « **on:** January 25, 2021, 11:13:39 AM »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9185453/Notorious-Essex-Boys-killer-Jack-Whomes-released-prison.html

Some say they were innocent and the hit was ordered to take the heat off the higher upps after Leah Betts died, whether those higher ups were in London or Amsterdam is less clear.

evacnam · « **Reply #1 on:** January 25, 2021, 11:15:37 AM »

whats up with the Gee boys? They were interesing

Henda · « **Reply #2 on:** January 25, 2021, 01:12:14 PM »

He will wish he never left prison when Darren avery reads this thread and tracks him down and makes him pay for murdering one of his hero’s pat tate

denarii · « **Reply #3 on:** January 25, 2021, 03:48:24 PM »

Quote from: Henda on January 25, 2021, 01:12:14 PM

He will wish he never left prison when Darren avery reads this thread and tracks him down and makes him pay for murdering one of his hero’s pat tate

Or maybe Bernard o'mahoney will find him and bore him to death with a slow conversation

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #4 on:** January 25, 2021, 04:19:01 PM »

Quote from: denarii on January 25, 2021, 03:48:24 PM

Or maybe Bernard o'mahoney will find him and bore him to death with a slow conversation

Forrrr Goddsssss Sakeeeeeeee!! That man can not have a conversation at all without bringing up "Range Rover murders" every second sentence. He's a fucking nobody that claims to have insider information into the crime (and nearly every other crime happening in Essex), but in reality, he is just a damn nobody that happened to have his photo taken with Pat Tate and Tony Tucker a few times and managed to turn that into a hard rep for himself while acting like he was deep in the scene.

denarii · « **Reply #5 on:** January 25, 2021, 04:40:56 PM »

Dave Courtney's son in law was supposedly killed by the uncle...pretty unlikely.

Matt · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2021, 05:20:59 PM »

What happened to those two kids who killed that 18-month-old in England around 1993?

I was about the same age as the murderers, but was in a Thunder Bay comic book store when the murder took place.

Now, my guess is such a murder would barely make the news, as it's more of a monthly event in England these days.

Lol @ a society bent on importing the Middle East out of fear of being called a word. From owning 25% of the globe, to becoming minorities in an island the size of Michigan. My dad's dad was born in Newfoundland when England, and I would seldom admit that. It's possible that the English are even more pathetic and gutless than White Canadians - although my brother insists that it's only the corrupt elected officials, and that a large majority of White English people oppose their own government.

Brexit gave me hope, but I think England is being punished for it now.

Fortress · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2021, 05:31:32 PM »

Who? What? Why? Huh?

Matt · « **Reply #8 on:** January 25, 2021, 06:24:51 PM »

Quote from: a_pupil on January 25, 2021, 05:51:39 PM

They were both given new identities. One of them became a convicted pedo, the other lived a normal life.

Thank you for letting me know.

I always wondered...was one of the two boys sort of dragged into it by the other?

I found the incident sick at the time...I still do. There was one documentary I watched on it where someone called in and said that the boys should be executed for the murder. I don't even think England has the death penalty [?]. Canada had it, for the crime of treason, until 1998. I think it makes sense to have it for treason. I think it makes sense, period, but only for murders you can prove beyond any doubt [video/DNA evidence, and not circumstantial or witness-only evidence].

Marty Champions · « **Reply #9 on:** January 25, 2021, 07:23:42 PM »

London faggets again?

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #10 on:** January 25, 2021, 07:42:10 PM »

Quote from: a_pupil on January 25, 2021, 04:22:32 PM

the "hardman" celebrity circuit is comical.

remember that baby dick'd fat midget dave courtney and his 12 year old black boyfriend with the dodgy haircut

The original hardmen, in the UK, most of the so-called hardmen around, were anything but hard. There are some legit ones, McClean, Lew Yates, Paul Sykes, Leach (to a minimal degree),... but the others that claimed to be hardmen were pussies for the most part. Viv Graham wouldn't fight one on one, he always had to have his mates with him. Lee Duffy was known for knocking people out with sucker punches. People that had no idea they were about to be punched. He would walk up and punch them out of the blue for no reason other than to just knock someone out. Even the Krays despite their reputations were sucker punchers too. One offering the victim a cigerette and then flicking up a lighter, when the victim leaned in to light the cig, the other kray would nail him in his out stretched jaw.

The celebrity hardmen are laughable. Tom Hardy? Eminem? Suge Knight? WTF?

denarii · « **Reply #11 on:** January 26, 2021, 12:38:25 AM »

wasnt Suge Knight a leading Crip or Blood, and OG?

Darren Avey · « **Reply #12 on:** January 26, 2021, 02:24:12 AM »

Quote from: Henda on January 25, 2021, 01:12:14 PM

He will wish he never left prison when Darren avery reads this thread and tracks him down and makes him pay for murdering one of his hero’s pat tate

I dont think the guys convicted are the ones that did it.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #13 on:** January 26, 2021, 02:25:11 AM »

Bernard o Mahoney is such a clown I'm surprised Vince McMahon didnt hire him to play Doink.
Bernard was made for the role

hench · « **Reply #14 on:** January 26, 2021, 03:45:51 AM »

Vinnie Jones is playing bernard in the next rise of the footsoldier movie.
Crazy the actual range rover was used in bonded by blood movie and back on the road

monsterman500 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 26, 2021, 04:41:46 AM »

some of these Hard men loved the cock
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ronnie-kray-fancied-you-you-6376849

illuminati · « **Reply #16 on:** January 26, 2021, 05:41:55 AM »

Quote from: Matt on January 25, 2021, 06:24:51 PM

Thank you for letting me know.

I always wondered...was one of the two boys sort of dragged into it by the other?

I found the incident sick at the time...I still do. There was one documentary I watched on it where someone called in and said that the boys should be executed for the murder. I don't even think England has the death penalty [?]. Canada had it, for the crime of treason, until 1998. I think it makes sense to have it for treason. I think it makes sense, period, but only for murders you can prove beyond any doubt [video/DNA evidence, and not circumstantial or witness-only evidence].

The 2 lads were Robert Thompson & Jon Venables
Both got given completely new identities 🤬

Thompson was thought to be the leader & main instigator- Apparently He has not committed
Any other offences since being released & is Living with another man.. queer fuck Murderer
Who knows who he is & his crime.
IIRC it is a crime to try & find his new identity or address an arrestable offence. FFS 🤬

Jon Venables is a right Vermin Scumbag who has been sent to prison multiple times
For boasting about who he is to work colleagues, Cocaine & fights, also has been caught
At least Twice with Child Pornographic sex abuse Images 🤬😡🤬 - Ha has been given 2
Other new identities- FFS why do they bother looking after such Human Vermin.

They Both should be strung up in an iron man cage naked & covered in honey & left to starve
& the animals & birds to Eat. That’s still to good for them.

illuminati · « **Reply #17 on:** January 26, 2021, 05:43:35 AM »

Quote from: Darren Avey on January 26, 2021, 02:24:12 AM

I dont think the guys convicted are the ones that did it.

Apparently so. Though they’ve Kept very quiet about Who actually Did kill them.
Either Big £ Or Big Fear at Play.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #18 on:** January 26, 2021, 05:53:43 AM »

Tate was a decent warrior of the iron

Darren Avey · « **Reply #19 on:** January 26, 2021, 05:55:10 AM »

Brutal

Darren Avey · « **Reply #20 on:** January 26, 2021, 07:24:37 AM »

Carlton

B R · « **Reply #21 on:** January 26, 2021, 07:33:14 AM »

Quote from: a_pupil on January 26, 2021, 04:32:32 AM

these guys are musicians etc.

I meant more that UK circuit of "hardmen" pushing hardmen books, doing speaking gigs about hardmen stuff and getting old tarts like that kate kray slag hanging around them.

It seems to be less nowadays, as with the internet it's harder to get away with BS stories.

Marvin Herbert is/was pretty legit.

Henda · « **Reply #22 on:** January 26, 2021, 07:55:45 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on January 25, 2021, 07:42:10 PM

The original hardmen, in the UK, most of the so-called hardmen around, were anything but hard. There are some legit ones, McClean, Lew Yates, Paul Sykes, Leach (to a minimal degree),... but the others that claimed to be hardmen were pussies for the most part. Viv Graham wouldn't fight one on one, he always had to have his mates with him. Lee Duffy was known for knocking people out with sucker punches. People that had no idea they were about to be punched. He would walk up and punch them out of the blue for no reason other than to just knock someone out. Even the Krays despite their reputations were sucker punchers too. One offering the victim a cigerette and then flicking up a lighter, when the victim leaned in to light the cig, the other kray would nail him in his out stretched jaw.

The celebrity hardmen are laughable. Tom Hardy? Eminem? Suge Knight? WTF?

Haha what are you basing viv graham being a pussy? Do you believe you could have beat him one on one? There have been the odd bad story about him and the footage of them being unable to put down that doorman showed him in a very bad light but the bloke was legit hard, doubt he ran Durham nick when he was in there due to only being able to fight with his mates behind him nor would he have been shot dead to get him out the way when they could have just showed up with a few mates themselves and give him a good hiding?

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #23 on:** January 26, 2021, 08:05:23 AM »

Quote from: Henda on January 26, 2021, 07:55:45 AM

Haha what are you basing viv graham being a pussy? Do you believe you could have beat him one on one? There have been the odd bad story about him and the footage of them being unable to put down that doorman showed him in a very bad light but the bloke was legit hard, doubt he ran Durham nick when he was in there due to only being able to fight with his mates behind him nor would he have been shot dead to get him out the way when they could have just showed up with a few mates themselves and give him a good hiding?

The fact that Lew Yates himself wrote that during a legit agreed upon bare knuckle fight against one of Viv's friends (which took place in a scrap iron yard), Viv punched him in back of his head while he was fighting the other guy. When he didn't go down, Viv ran to hide in the office where he found and almost wet his pants having to apologize for the cheap shot.

Other's have written the same thing about him to varying degrees. Pretty sure him being shot dead had nothing to do with any fight or such.

Henda · « **Reply #24 on:** January 26, 2021, 08:14:11 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on January 26, 2021, 08:05:23 AM

The fact that Lew Yates himself wrote that during a legit agreed upon bare knuckle fight against one of Viv's friends (which took place in a scrap iron yard), Viv punched him in back of his head while he was fighting the other guy. When he didn't go down, Viv ran to hide in the office where he found and almost wet his pants having to apologize for the cheap shot.

Other's have written the same thing about him to varying degrees. Pretty sure him being shot dead had nothing to do with any fight or such.

Never heard that one heard a similar one about him giving Ernie Berwick sly dig when he was getting the better of one of vivs mate, there is some bad shit out there but it doesent mean he wasn’t a legit hard bloke, my dad worked with a doorman who was a big national level bodybuilder who though he could take viv and he himself admitted viv put him away so fast he never stood a chance there many locals can recall the times he was about, he was shot as he wouldn’t allow drugs in the pubs and clubs he looked after