Is COVID even real?

[Iron-Muscle]

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/12/01/the-sars-cov-2-virus-was-never-proved-to-exist/

https://truthcomestolight.com/covid-if-there-is-no-virus-why-are-people-dying/

tin hat folks or fake news or real news you can use?

[njflex]

I’m sure it is like all virus and flus , it for some reason the world picked this nugget to fuk it all up and change our lives it seems permanently l

[loco]

No

[nzgs]

It's existence is irrelevant. The near-zero flu death rate and normal all-cause mortality rates indicate that the crisis is nothing more than the fearmongering of a bad flu season for political purposes. You could have called this a conspiracy theory 10 years ago, but with the knowledge we have about fake climate science being used to install socialist policies globally, there is precedent for this.

[falco]

My country Portugal is the country where covid is at its worst. Its real, thrust me. Total national health care capacity is near collapse. Doctors are already choosing who is eligeble to medical care, and the ones who are a waiste of resources. Like in wars.

[Matt]

My country Portugal is the country where covid is at its worst. Its real, thrust me. Total national health care capacity is near collapse. Doctors are already choosing who is eligeble to medical care, and the ones who are a waiste of resources. Like in wars.

They were saying hospitals here were going to be overwhelmed too. It was all lies.

[joswift]

My country Portugal is the country where covid is at its worst. Its real, thrust me. Total national health care capacity is near collapse. Doctors are already choosing who is eligeble to medical care, and the ones who are a waiste of resources. Like in wars.

Bollocks

I have been in my local hospital in the UK and its almost closed...the only section open is for covid patients, they are working at around 15% capacity max

[MAXX]

meh...I think it's just slightly more harsh than a regular seasonal flu. I mean in years past 3000 something people have died from the seasonal flu here. Then in this year about 7000 died. Not a huge difference. Plus there has been more strict records kept  because of the hype of covid so that can bring up the numbers compared to years past.

[joswift]

total deaths in 2020 in the UK 543k


the defence rests

[falco]

Bollocks

I have been in my local hospital in the UK and its almost closed...the only section open is for covid patients, they are working at around 15% capacity max

Glad to ear.
Sadly thats not the case here. Worst than that is the amount of people who have other ilnesses and schedueled surgeries that are constantly being postponed.
My father had to wait months to be eligebçe to radiotherapy for phrostate cancer. Usually its a matter of days once prescribed.

[joswift]

Glad to ear.
Sadly thats not the case here. Worst than that is the amount of people who have other ilnesses and schedueled surgeries that are constantly being postponed.
My father had to wait months to be eligebçe to radiotherapy for phrostate cancer. Usually its a matter of days once prescribed.

so the hospital isnt overwhelmed.. you really think all those surgeons and anaesthetists are working on covid wards?

They have cancelled everything else which is adding to excess deaths.

[MAXX]

Glad to ear.
Sadly thats not the case here. Worst than that is the amount of people who have other ilnesses and schedueled surgeries that are constantly being postponed.
My father had to wait months to be eligebçe to radiotherapy for phrostate cancer. Usually its a matter of days once prescribed.

probably has more to do with covid slowing work down In general in the service sector. Due to restrictions and different rules etc.

[falco]

I will not argue because you seem to be in a mission to prove you are right.
I have relatives and friends who work in public and private heath care. The virus is real. The chaos is real. Funeraries are lacking time and resources to bury the dead.

[MAXX]

I will not argue because you seem to be in a mission to prove you are right.
I have relatives and friends who work in public and private heath care. The virus is real. The chaos is real. Funeraries are lacking time and resources to bury the dead.

nah sometimes I just play abit devils advocate to cram out some good arguments from people

[ThisisOverload]

Bollocks

I have been in my local hospital in the UK and its almost closed...the only section open is for covid patients, they are working at around 15% capacity max

A lot has to do with how beds are allocated. They use the term ICU beds, when the beds used for Covid patients are more specialized than that.

For example, based on real statistics from the State of New Mexico's own website. There are 2.1 million people in the state.

There are ~3000 total hospital beds in the state.

410 of those are ICU beds capable of severe respiratory illness patients. ~100 ICU beds have been "updated" to care for Covid patients.

Out of the ~2500 normal beds, 42% are currently being used; which peaked at 57% in August 2020. Normal load for a non-Covid year is at LEAST 65-70%.

ICU beds are at 72% currently; peaked at 87% in November 2020. Normal load for non-Covid year is at LEAST 70%.

The State of New Mexico does NOT state how may of the ICU beds are Covid patients, it is assumed ALL of them are.

It is really strange how small this issue is when you look at the numbers. Most hospitals are still not allowing certain procedures.

In my County there are ~160k people. For this County there are 206 normal beds and 24 ICU beds. That's correct, 24.

Out of the 24 ICU beds, currently there are 10.4 beds being used.

For a state of 2+ million, there are ~500 ICU beds capable of handling Covid. They have yet to run out of beds or supplies.

There are currently ~240 people in ICU from Covid.

Think about that for a second.

Our entire state has been shut down for 8 months.

There are ZERO plans to expand the healthcare sector of the state for emergency service or future service.

It's almost like there is no need for more beds.

[Disgusted]

I will not argue because you seem to be in a mission to prove you are right.
I have relatives and friends who work in public and private heath care. The virus is real. The chaos is real. Funeraries are lacking time and resources to bury the dead.

Chaos doesn't equal proof of a virus. I also know someone who died from the virus or so they said. The lady who had it was in the hospital and on the phone with her family telling them that she had to get going because they were coming to put her on a ventilator. She wasn't out of breath and said her breathing was fine.  Less than 48 hours later she was dead.

[robcguns]

I can say this,I had it supposedly and it was rough but nothing insane but my buddy has it and has been in hospital for 3 weeks and can barely breathe.He is 40 and doesn’t smoke and has no ailments.

[Matt]

I can say this,I had it supposedly and it was rough but nothing insane but my buddy has it and has been in hospital for 3 weeks and can barely breathe.He is 40 and doesn’t smoke and has no ailments.

He'll be fine.

[evacnam]

My country Portugal is the country where covid is at its worst. Its real, thrust me. Total national health care capacity is near collapse. Doctors are already choosing who is eligeble to medical care, and the ones who are a waiste of resources. Like in wars.

we will leave that to your boyfriend

[harmankardon1]

It's real and it's a bit worse than the flu... But imo not that much worse, certainly not to the point where the way of life and direction of our civilisation should be changed.

It's deeply concerning, not the virus but everything that has come with it.

[Bevo]

Lots of medical experts and Bitcoin enthusiasts on getbig

[Matt]

I know that Getbig has a bit of a seedy reputation in the IFBB bodybuilding world, but we are a smart group here.

I can tell you beyond any doubt, that I've learned from information on COVID that has proven to be true than any other place online.

Literally 99% of mainstream media were talking about COVID as being some giant plague. On Getbig, only a few of us bought into it.

Who was right?

Lastly, who can possibly trust the mainstream media at this point? We've basically been through a year of incessant lying. I just don't get how anyone can trust cable news.

Whether anyone, here or elsewhere, wants to admit it - Getbig has a good track record of being right about things. COVID being a prime example.

[Rusty Trombone]

I will not argue because you seem to be in a mission to prove you are right.
I have relatives and friends who work in public and private heath care. The virus is real. The chaos is real. Funeraries are lacking time and resources to bury the dead.

Whata.. Not this shit again. Are you stuck in march 2020? 

[Thin Lizzy]

Is the flu real?. Yes. Most of us have had it at some point in our lives. Is this something new? No.

It’s just been re-packaged and exploited by the financial, medical, and political establishment



https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html

[Zillotch]

how did hiv find its way into the rona?

not by accident:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338957445_Uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the_2019-nCoV_spike_protein_to_HIV-1_gp120_and_Gag

We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019- nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature.

more hiv fragments have been identified within the designer rona... 18 of them now (6 + 6 + 6 = 18 - how perfect, lol)

'18 RNA fragments of homology equal or more than 80% with human or simian retroviruses have been found in the COVID_19 genome.'

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342926066_COVID-19_SARS_and_Bats_Coronaviruses_Genomes_Peculiar_Homologous_RNA_Sequences_Jean_Claude_perez_Luc_Montagnier