Covid vaccine hasnt been fully approved, only for emergency use

[joswift]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf


Latest UK modelling
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.


So having the vaccine still wont stop old people dying

Theres a surprise.

Begs the question
If the vaccine works then why would be expecting a third wave?

[G_Thang]

I'm about to throw up.  One of my favorite top-rank ring girls let them give her that shit in a syringe.  Young, healthy Eumelanin women and their descendants should not be injected with this stuff. Generation Sterile!

[joswift]

I wonder if George Zimmerman is going to get one of those stickers?

[Van_Bilderass]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf


Latest UK modelling
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.


So having the vaccine still wont stop old people dying

Theres a surprise.

Begs the question
If the vaccine works then why would be expecting a third wave?

I don't know how I feel about this. I haven't been able to physically meet my dear mom for a long time. She trusts authorities always. And I may not want to do it anyway since if I did give her Covid and she passed away it would crush me. Her man got the jab the other week but she is younger and they haven't opened up vaccination in her age group yet. But she is eager to get it so we can meet. I just hope she doesn't have a bad reaction to it.

Joswift, are your parents alive? Will you take the vaccine?

[joswift]

I don't know how I feel about this. I haven't been able to physically meet my dear mom for a long time. She trusts authorities always. And I may not want to do it anyway since if I did give her Covid and she passed away it would crush me. Her man got the jab the other week but she is younger and they haven't opened up vaccination in her age group yet. But she is eager to get it so we can meet. I just hope she doesn't have a bad reaction to it.

Joswift, are your parents alive? Will you take the vaccine?

My mums 82 shes had her first and having her second in a week or so
My wife has had her first

I wouldnt have one if you held me down and tried to force me.

[Van_Bilderass]

My mums 82 shes had her first and having her second in a week or so
My wife has had her first

I wouldnt have one if you held me down and tried to force me.

Okay. Are you getting pushback and shaming from the missus and relatives? 

[joswift]

Okay. Are you getting pushback and shaming from the missus and relatives? 

No, Im not very approachable..

[Chubz]

My mums 82 shes had her first and having her second in a week or so
My wife has had her first

I wouldnt have one if you held me down and tried to force me.

It’s sexually transmitted for up to 30 days, so there’s that.

[joswift]

It’s sexually transmitted for up to 30 days, so there’s that.

Shes my mum and shes 82, so I think Im OK there...

[ThisisOverload]

In New York City, indoor dining is open at 50% capacity. So, you see people sitting indoors together without masks. Yet, at the same time you see people jogging alone outdoors wearing masks.

It's like that here in NM.

People walking their dogs with nobody within 100 yards, and they wear a mask.

I live in a very liberal City and it's been crazy how upset people get about it.

We went to a bar last weekend for the first time in months. Half the people kept their mask on the entire time. Some Karen made a comment to my GF about not wear a mask in the bathroom.

She actually followed my GF back to our table and tried to cause a scene. My GF told her if she doesn't fuck off she's going to get shanked.

I love my little Mexican fire kitty.

[Van_Bilderass]

Here's the solution for staying safe while eating in restaurants.

[Thin Lizzy]

It's like that here in NM.

People walking their dogs with nobody within 100 yards, and they wear a mask.

I live in a very liberal City and it's been crazy how upset people get about it.

We went to a bar last weekend for the first time in months. Half the people kept their mask on the entire time. Some Karen made a comment to my GF about not wear a mask in the bathroom.

She actually followed my GF back to our table and tried to cause a scene. My GF told her if she doesn't fuck off she's going to get shanked.

I love my little Mexican fire kitty.

Makes you wonder who has it worse, the idiot Karens who go through life as chickenshits or those of us who have to put up with them. No shortage of them in my neck of the woods.

[Al Doggity]

So having the vaccine still wont stop old people dying

Theres a surprise.

Begs the question
If the vaccine works then why would be expecting a third wave?

The paper you linked actually covers addresses that. 

[Flexacon]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf


Latest UK modelling
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.


So having the vaccine still wont stop old people dying

Theres a surprise.

Begs the question
If the vaccine works then why would be expecting a third wave?

The vaccines are 90% effective. If everyone over 50 in the UK is vaccinated (22 million) then 10% (2.2 million) can still catch and die from covid.

However the situation shouldn't be any different to flu during flu season. If they try make it out as anything worse then it's a bunch of BS

[Flexacon]

THIS!

Not only that, but people talking about 'COVID-spread' weight gain as if it's a side-effect or something.  Well I suppose in a way it is - a side effect of gorging... 

Believe it or not there were calls to discuss paying people to lose weight.

[chaos]

Also I wish to be free to travel and if that means getting a COVID vaccine passport, so be it.

Well you're on the tail end of whatever is left of your life, some of us don't want to deal with this for the next 40 years.

[Dave D]

The vaccines are 90% effective. If everyone over 50 in the UK is vaccinated (22 million) then 10% (2.2 million) can still catch and die from covid.

However the situation shouldn't be any different to flu during flu season. If they try make it out as anything worse then it's a bunch of BS

What’s .001% of 2.2 million?

[Taffin]

What’s .001% of 2.2 million?

2?

[Dave D]

Well you're on the tail end of whatever is left of your life, some of us don't want to deal with this for the next 40 years.

lol

Prime commented that he only has 26k miles on his car in 5 years (or something like this) but his opinion on air travel is that covid vaccines are needed....  a simpler solution would have been to shut down air travel during the lockdown, stop the  spread in its tracks.

[Dave D]

2?

I don’t like those numbers Taffy.

[Flexacon]

What’s .001% of 2.2 million?

Death rate for over 50s isn't 0.001% so that calculation is redundant.

If that 2.2 million didn't benefit from a 2 dose vaccination, the chances are they have a compromised immune system. The chances of them dying from covid would easily be a double figure percentage. At the same time the chances of them dying within the next few years from something other than covid would be pretty high anyway.

[Thin Lizzy]

So have we figured out how a few thousand Chinese supposedly sick with the flu managed to spread it to the Favalas of Brazil?

[Thin Lizzy]

Believe it or not there were calls to discuss paying people to lose weight.

It seems like fining them would be a better strategy as they would have less money for food.

[Dave D]

Death rate for over 50s isn't 0.001% so that calculation is redundant.

If that 2.2 million didn't benefit from a 2 dose vaccination, the chances are they have a compromised immune system. The chances of them dying from covid would easily be a double figure percentage. At the same time the chances of them dying within the next few years from something other than covid would be pretty high anyway.

Good points. Some people don’t stand a chance.

[Al Doggity]

So have we figured out how a few thousand Chinese supposedly sick with the flu managed to spread it to the Favalas of Brazil?

I've heard some people blame this thing called "internashinel travel".  I'm not sure what that is, though. I think it might be an app or a facebook page? 


Elizabeth, wtf?? Even if you don't buy into a lot of covidmania,  there's no confusion about how a communicable disease travels around the world. It would be weirder if it didn't.