this is where we're at as a society.

[Fortress]

Because she's 73 she's allowed to steal and not get arrested? If she was a sweet little old lady she wouldn't take things which don't belong to her. She's probably been a thieving shit bag her whole life.

She has dementia. And to a somewhat-intelligent cop it would be obvious something is off. Take her home, or allow her to walk home, and go from there.

Pretzelling a senior woman and wrestling her about wasn’t a great choice.

[wes]

Exactly. When the cops killed Floyd Mayweather by kneeling on him, everyone retrospectively justified it by pointing to the fact that he was a violent criminal. This pilfering old picaroon probably had half the shop up her ass. Personally, I'd have shot her if she didn't stop after my first warning.

Great post.....funny as fuck !!  LOL 

[wes]

THOSE COPS WERE KUNTZ !!

[Primemuscle]

It doesn't help that the media's most lucrative approach is overrepresenting material that is most likely to generate the most outrage

Overrepresented in what way?

[Tapeworm]

At what point would you guys ok the use of force on this thief? Maybe after he follows her home and spends three days helping her with her living arrangements? Fix her roof and clean out her basement. But not if she keeps repeating, "I'm baking a carrot cake. I'm baking a carrot cake." Or can you just never overpower an old lady who won't agree to being arrested? If she's sufficiently frail, she's above the law.

Added to People You Can't Arrest And Must Call A Social Worker For: Anyone black. Guest Workers. Indigenours. Little old ladies who were at Woodstock and repeat themselves. Pretty much everyone except white males who work and pay others not to.

Affirm the entitlement of the helpless. It's the right thing to do. It's where we are. As a society.

[wordy]

At what point would you guys ok the use of force on this thief?

When she becomes a danger to the public or the police officer. I mean it’s a simple notion, why not address the injuries that copper inflicted on that old woman?

Maybe after he follows her home and spends three days helping her with her living arrangements? Fix her roof and clean out her basement. But not if she keeps repeating, "I'm baking a carrot cake. I'm baking a carrot cake." Or can you just never overpower an old lady who won't agree to being arrested? If she's sufficiently frail, she's above the law.

Are you suggesting the choice is either cause serious injury to a vulnerable 73 old with dementia or do nothing? Fucks sake, his job is to serve the public. This a vulnerable citizen who should’ve been helped, not fucked up, so instead of snatching her phone of her throwing it to the ground and the pile-driving her Hulk Hogan style, use it to try and find out who her family is and contact them. It’s closer to his job to help her than it is to snap one of her arm bones and dislocate her shoulder.

Added to People You Can't Arrest And Must Call A Social Worker For: Anyone black. Guest Workers. Indigenours. Little old ladies who were at Woodstock and repeat themselves. Pretty much everyone except white males who work and pay others not to.

Affirm the entitlement of the helpless. It's the right thing to do. It's where we are. As a society.

Complete gibberish.

[Tapeworm]

When she becomes a danger to the public or the police officer. I mean it’s a simple notion, why not address the injuries that copper inflicted on that old woman?

Are you suggesting the choice is either cause serious injury to a vulnerable 73 old with dementia or do nothing? Fucks sake, his job is to serve the public. This a vulnerable citizen who should’ve been helped, not fucked up, so instead of snatching her phone of her throwing it to the ground and the pile-driving her Hulk Hogan style, use it to try and find out who her family is and contact them. It’s closer to his job to help her than it is to snap one of her arm bones and dislocate her shoulder.

Complete gibberish.

Ok, how about he can arrest her for the crime she committed and use the amount of force required to do so provided he doesn't injure her? I'll agree he ought to be able to handle a grandma without injuring her.

Do we have an accord?  Or does he have to help her somehow and he's not allowed to arrest her?

[Tapeworm]

Complete gibberish.

Quite a refutation. Didn't know I had the Captain of the Debate Team on my hands.

There's a trend these days that 'helpless people' get a pass for breaking the law. You're saying that's gibberish while arguing that grandma should get a pass because she's helpless. Am I being trolled here?

[wordy]

Quite a refutation. Didn't know I had the Captain of the Debate Team on my hands.

There's a trend these days that 'helpless people' get a pass for breaking the law. You're saying that's gibberish while arguing that grandma should get a pass because she's helpless. Am I being trolled here?

It’s complete gibberish that you’re saying that there’s a massive long list of people that includes everyone apart from white males that can’t be arrested and in that list you included the elderly woman in question. No one has said she blanket shouldn’t be arrested for committing crimes, people are disgusted with the way the police officer handled the situation. And the way he handled the situation was body slamming her to the ground, breaking one of the bones in her arm, dislocating one of her shoulders, taking her down to the cells, then leaving her, without medical attention while he and his colleagues laughed and joked about what they did.

Why do you have an issue with the police calling for social workers when they are dealing with vulnerable people, wouldn’t you agree a social worker handling the situation would be better than having the cop do it?

[Tapeworm]

No. When someone steals shit, they get arrested. If you want to call a social worker or a psychologist afterwards, fine. But steal, get arrested. Same rules for everyone.

But we don't have the same rules for everyone. There are different rules for people from different groups. The more disadvantaged you are, the less the rules apply. This is where we have come to as a society here on Earth, during your apparent Mars Mission.

[wordy]

No. When someone steals shit, they get arrested. If you want to call a social worker or a psychologist afterwards, fine. But steal, get arrested. Same rules for everyone.

No. You’re trying to simplify the event until any discussion is meaningless. It’s a very obvious and very dishonest way of debating what happened.

She wasn’t just arrested though was she, she got a pasting over nothing whatsoever. A vulnerable person should be treated in a different way than a person in ful control of their faculties if they are not an immediate threat to people’s safety. This lady in question walks out of a store without paying for something, gets challenged by store employees as she’s leaving, apologises and offers to pay, the store employees refuse and call the police, they then apprehend her and give her a good hiding.

So let me ask you, what good has come from this, your one size fits all treatment of anyone suspected of committing a crime, no matter how small?

The store employees look like girls, a 73 year old woman with dementia got the shit kicked out her, the cops might lose their jobs and the police department has a law suit filed against it for the incident. All this over 13 dollars worth of tat from fucking Walmart.

But we don't have the same rules for everyone. There are different rules for people from different groups. The more disadvantaged you are, the less the rules apply. This is where we have come to as a society here on Earth, during your apparent Mars Mission.

Have you been drinking?

[SOMEPARTS]

I've never condoned it on either side of the aisle, if you saw some of my earlier posts on the subject I recommended that the police should shoot the rioters with paint, to make it easier to sort them out at the cops leisure.

Just so I get this right....

Your suggestion is to fight looting, beatings, arson and rioting with "paint" ... so cops can "sort them out" ....  at their "leisure" AKA never.

I'm sure if it was your stuff in your neighborhood and your family you wouldn't see it that way.

Society is where it's at due to approx 50 years of liberal "progress". You have been voting for this result your whole life.

[funk51]

Just so I get this right....

Your suggestion is to fight looting, beatings, arson and rioting with "paint" ... so cops can "sort them out" ....  at their "leisure" AKA never.

I'm sure if it was your stuff in your neighborhood and your family you wouldn't see it that way.

Society is where it's at due to approx 50 years of liberal "progress". You have been voting for this result your whole life.

   no, you're reading it wrong. cops come on scene every one looting and vandalizing gets hit with paint. cops arrest as many as they can on scene,  the rest they can easily identify because they are covered with paint. the same principle as the exploding  dye packs used for bank robberies. this would have worked well for the Jan. 6 insurrection.

[Primemuscle]

   no, you're reading it wrong. cops come on scene every one looting and vandalizing gets hit with paint. cops arrest as many as they can on scene,  the rest they can easily identify because they are covered with paint. the same principle as the exploding  dye packs used for bank robberies. this would have worked well for the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Hmm, maybe someone should send Portland's mayor/police commissioner, Ted Wheeler a few hundred gallons of paint. 

[DanM]

Overrepresented in what way?

Overrepresented, as in given much more attention by the media than statistically they deserve. Simply because it will outrage people and get them to engage

[SOMEPARTS]

   no, you're reading it wrong. cops come on scene every one looting and vandalizing gets hit with paint. cops arrest as many as they can on scene,  the rest they can easily identify because they are covered with paint. the same principle as the exploding  dye packs used for bank robberies. this would have worked well for the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Nope, I had it right. Your answer is to put paint on them to ID them. There is already plenty of video of people doing the crimes, haha.

This would be like putting more red paint on the Red Coats to identify them.

FFS!

[Tapeworm]

No. You’re trying to simplify the event until any discussion is meaningless. It’s a very obvious and very dishonest way of debating what happened.

She wasn’t just arrested though was she, she got a pasting over nothing whatsoever. A vulnerable person should be treated in a different way than a person in ful control of their faculties if they are not an immediate threat to people’s safety. This lady in question walks out of a store without paying for something, gets challenged by store employees as she’s leaving, apologises and offers to pay, the store employees refuse and call the police, they then apprehend her and give her a good hiding.

So let me ask you, what good has come from this, your one size fits all treatment of anyone suspected of committing a crime, no matter how small?

The store employees look like girls, a 73 year old woman with dementia got the shit kicked out her, the cops might lose their jobs and the police department has a law suit filed against it for the incident. All this over 13 dollars worth of tat from fucking Walmart.

Have you been drinking?

I've already agreed with you that he shouldn't have injured her but I don't have a problem with him using force and pain compliance to effect an arrest she's trying to walk away from.

Whether or not she is responsible for her actions is a question for the court. The cop's job is to arrest her, even if she'd rather not be arrested.

I'm not sure what your position is here. You seem to be denying that she stole anything and it was all a big misunderstanding, but if she did steal then no one is allowed to do anything about it because she's frail.

You're willing to give her a pass for misbehavior and I'm not. There we are.

[ThisisOverload]

   no, you're reading it wrong. cops come on scene every one looting and vandalizing gets hit with paint. cops arrest as many as they can on scene,  the rest they can easily identify because they are covered with paint. the same principle as the exploding  dye packs used for bank robberies. this would have worked well for the Jan. 6 insurrection.

You know why they DON'T do this right? Don't you?

Because it's fucking stupid.

Exploding dye packs in money bags serve a completely different purpose.

[wordy]

I've already agreed with you that he shouldn't have injured her but I don't have a problem with him using force and pain compliance to effect an arrest she's trying to walk away from.

Whether or not she is responsible for her actions is a question for the court. The cop's job is to arrest her, even if she'd rather not be arrested.

I'm not sure what your position is here. You seem to be denying that she stole anything and it was all a big misunderstanding, but if she did steal then no one is allowed to do anything about it because she's frail.

You're willing to give her a pass for misbehavior and I'm not. There we are.

Ok Judge Dredd, using force and pain compliance, fucking pain compliance! on confused 73 old for being confused and walking away.

If you had an ounce of honesty you’d just come out and say you’ve no problem with her getting the shit kicked out of her. Fucking pain compliance, Jesus Christ!

[Tapeworm]

I'd ok depatmental use of indian burns as well as noogies. Old ladies suck.

[SOMEPARTS]

Funk would probably recommend spray paint on this guy as well. 

The real crime is this guy only faces two counts of assault when it was obviously more than that with a piece of cement block.

BUT defund the cops and take away guns in the liberal haven that is Baltimore. GTFO!!!

[lightweight83]

I wonder what the charges would be if a white guy were the culprit?

[AbrahamG]

They should have just fingered her and called it a day.

[IRON CROSS]

   no, you're reading it wrong. cops come on scene every one looting and vandalizing gets hit with paint. cops arrest as many as they can on scene,  the rest they can easily identify because they are covered with paint. the same principle as the exploding  dye packs used for bank robberies. this would have worked well for the Jan. 6 insurrection.

  they still rob the banks in the States 

[IRON CROSS]

I've never condoned it on either side of the aisle, if you saw some of my earlier posts on the subject I recommended that the police should shoot the rioters with paint, to make it easier to sort them out at the cops leisure.

Nope, give them depleted Uranium bullets