I do disagree with Trump that we should not have invaded Afhganistan. After 9/11 what were we supposed to do? Nothing? We knew Bin Ladin had his base in Afghanistan. And I also disagree with both Biden and Trump that we should leave Afghanistan. It will be like Vietnam all over again.
Another killing fields.
No, I would not support the immediate bombing of Iran. I don't think it has reached that point. Iran is not very popular in the region and the other Arab countries sees what a threat they are.
What exactly has Israel "done wrong" which would illustrate our blind faith in Israel? Have you considered that the reason we are on the side of Israel and support them as they support us is because we share the same values? We would oppose Iran from getting nuclear weapons regardless of Israel. They are the biggest sponsor or world terrorism and if they should ever dispose of Israel it would then be America, the "Big Satan" that they would turn all their focus on.
I'm speculating wildly, though have seen some supporting evidence, that they didn't want Bin Laden right off the bat. Was the Afghan invasion really necessary to get Bin Laden? It was a special ops team that got him in Pakistan in the end.
There have been reports that earlier presidents called off missions to get Bin Laden when they had solid evidence of his whereabouts.
Also, the Taliban said that they would hand over Bin Laden if the US presented solid evidence of his guilt. I admit this may be silly but it's curious nonetheless.
And why didn't the US go after Saudi Arabia where the highjackers actually came from and who reportedly financed the whole 9/11 operation? We know why, it's political.
And what has the Afghan war netted in real terms? The Taliban are stronger than ever! Lol. And are the Taliban any kind of threat to the US? I doubt it.
Some have said that this troop withdrawal is a bunch of political theater, by years end there will be more troops in Afghanistan than now. I bet this is what will happen. Some kind of reason for not going through with it will be found, probably involving heavy lobbying by Israel Lol.
As far as Israel's values and interests contra US values and interests, it's huge topic and not one I can claim to understand with any real depth. But Israel and US are supposed to be two different countries. Do you know how much espionage Israel conducts against the US? And that's just what has been in the news. A number of months ago they found advanced listening devices in DC that were tied to Israel. I think it was said they would try to listen in on Trump's calls etc.
In the days after 9/11 the US arrested many Israeli spies but after a couple of months they were whisked away to Israel and nothing more was heard about it. These spies were operating "moving companies" as fronts for espionage and reports indicate they may have had foreknowledge of the attacks or at least were surveiling some of the Saudis. Google "dancing Israelis" for more. If someone here has researched the topic in depth and sees nothing suspicious about these Israelis, let me know how I'm off.
And what do you think of Jonathan Pollard welcomed as a hero in Israel by Netanyahu?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55484433And just what are the Jewish values that are shared by all Americans? I'm not an American but they promote these same values and interests here. Is it that Israel should stay a Jewish ethnonationalist country but America (and Europe) should destroy themselves via immigration of Muslims and other 3rd worlders? You know how the 1965 immigration act was another Jewish project that many say was decidedly harmful to the US. Politicians like Shapiro say they don't give a damn about the browning of America (and support the same for Europe) but they for sure don't support the browning or blackening of Israel.
I know you are against this racialist angle but I suspect you would rather live in a society with more people from some ethnicity and less from some other, whatever those groups might be. Very few don't care at all, no matter what they state publicly.
H/T Megalodon
