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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #175 on: August 15, 2021, 07:43:13 AM »
In looking at the photo of Mr. Cook I think I had the bar way too high up on my back. I’m just not sure that if I lower the bar to the area where he had it, that my back is thick enough to support it without slipping. I did notice that the other people squatting next to me (2 guys) had their heals elevated, but they were only using the same weight I was, so I’m not sure they were credible sources for workout form.

Today we did abs, calves, and stretching and then we tried to make a video of me wheelying the dirt bike. My Mom went jogging and I told her I had to log in and work for a while, but I really just took a nap.

Tomorrow we are going to make a Voodoo Doll that looks like Chaos !
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Where the bar sits has a lot to do with comfort. I eventually moved it farther down my upper back but then it started getting less and less comfortable no matter what. I started using the leg press and felt I got the same effect without the spinal compression.


Naps are the best btw :) Every time we go to sleep we release growth hormone in the first 30 minutes or so after we close our eyes.


Not sure I could wheelie a dirt bike though, haha



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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #176 on: August 15, 2021, 08:18:49 AM »
How old is your mom? And did you bring your cool wrist wraps?

Hi Pellius 🙋‍♀️

My grandmother, mother, and I are all 29 years old. LOL

You’re not supposed to ask a women her age ! (She’s pretty active for her age).

I didn’t pack my cool wrist straps, I left them at home. I’m cutting back on power cleans for now and I’m going to learn how to deadlift properly next. Did you like the power cleans photo ? I think my thighs are bigger than bhank’s legs. 🤣

I hope you’re doing well. I told my Mom the story about the man flashing you for your cheeseburger and she doesn’t think I should go back to the Hawaii house “until the crime dies down.”

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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #177 on: August 15, 2021, 08:24:16 AM »
There is no right or wrong way regarding where the bar sits it depends on the goal, powerlifters will generally squat low bar as generally can move more weight and it puts more load on the glutes due to the tendency for torso to lean forward, high bar is more quads due to being easier to remain more upright torso which increases knee flexion. Same with the elevated heal it only serves to increase knee flexion to load the quads more. If your goal is to simply lift more weight go low bar with no elevated heel, for hypertrophy high bar and perhaps elevated heel if it’s needed to maximise knee flexion

This is good information ! I definitely want more effort on my legs and less on my glutes.

Primemuscle should be along any minute now to ask about “putting more load on your glutes.”

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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #178 on: August 15, 2021, 08:29:13 AM »
Hi Pellius 🙋‍♀️

My grandmother, mother, and I are all 29 years old. LOL

You’re not supposed to ask a women her age ! (She’s pretty active for her age).

I didn’t pack my cool wrist straps, I left them at home. I’m cutting back on power cleans for now and I’m going to learn how to deadlift properly next. Did you like the power cleans photo ? I think my thighs are bigger than bhank’s legs. 🤣

I hope you’re doing well. I told my Mom the story about the man flashing you for your cheeseburger and she doesn’t think I should go back to the Hawaii house “until the crime dies down.”

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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #179 on: August 15, 2021, 08:32:52 AM »

Where the bar sits has a lot to do with comfort. I eventually moved it farther down my upper back but then it started getting less and less comfortable no matter what. I started using the leg press and felt I got the same effect without the spinal compression.


Naps are the best btw :) Every time we go to sleep we release growth hormone in the first 30 minutes or so after we close our eyes.


Not sure I could wheelie a dirt bike though, haha

I do my leg press with my feet close together and toes pointed out kind of like a duck.

The first two days I had a KTM 450 four stroke as a rental and it is pretty tall. I fell off a few times on the rocky trails. Now I have a KTM 350 and it is a better size and weight for me. They aren’t hard to wheelie if you just pop the clutch. My Mom has the 250 and she doesn’t want to try a wheelie.

I heard Chaos can’t wheelie because his skirt might fly up in his face ! 😁

We are off to eat French Toast now. Thank you for the information.

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« Reply #180 on: August 15, 2021, 08:45:58 AM »
Pretty much but I prefer the Redwing brand. I wear Redwing steel toe boots all the time now.  Have for years actually and they seem to be the brand that fit with my leg braces the best.  Steel toe because I am a forklift driver/laborer so they protect me at work and when exercising.  I wear them when I feel brave enough to ride my Sporty but that is becoming a rare event as I tend to fall due to my crappo right leg being so weak.  Time to get a sidecar?  I have thought about the Piaggio Mp3 500 "tadpole" scooter (2 wheels up front) but it may well just be time to stop trying to be me, if you will.  My brothers and son will give me hell if I got a scooter, LOL!  I just want to ride for as long as I can but my doctors agree with my family.  Dammit!  I have gone off tangent again!

Try the boots.  The squat changed me and it will work for anyone willing to put the effort into it. 

They have enough of a heel that I didn't feel the need for a 2X4 under my heels when I was still able to do the squat.

I have black Redwing boots for riding my motorcycle. They are really well made, I like them a lot.

Please don’t get a scooter, the only two girls I know who ride a scooter are my sister-in-law (Vespa) and Chaos (Harley scooter). LOL

Thank you for sharing the advice, I will try this when I get back home. I’m not squatting today !

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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #181 on: August 15, 2021, 08:51:07 AM »
I do my leg press with my feet close together and toes pointed out kind of like a duck.

The first two days I had a KTM 450 four stroke as a rental and it is pretty tall. I fell off a few times on the rocky trails. Now I have a KTM 350 and it is a better size and weight for me. They aren’t hard to wheelie if you just pop the clutch. My Mom has the 250 and she doesn’t want to try a wheelie.

I heard Chaos can’t wheelie because his skirt might fly up in his face ! 😁

We are off to eat French Toast now. Thank you for the information.


Definitely performance enhancing  :)



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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #182 on: August 15, 2021, 08:52:15 AM »
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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #183 on: August 15, 2021, 08:59:25 AM »
I have black Redwing boots for riding my motorcycle. They are really well made, I like them a lot.

Please don’t get a scooter, the only two girls I know who ride a scooter are my sister-in-law (Vespa) and Chaos (Harley scooter). LOL

Thank you for sharing the advice, I will try this when I get back home. I’m not squatting today !

I fell a few weeks back trying to carefully back my 1200 Sportster down the driveway.  A few years back I got ride of my touring rig as it was over 900 lbs  and I no longer felt comfortable riding it due to my physical limitations and, well...my stubbornness.

I like Harleys a lot.  I also like a great many other brands and types of bikes.  I had a DR650 that I once rode to my HD dealer for a Saturday BBQ.  I parked next to all the Harleys and was  taking my helmet off when a guy said I couldn't park my "Jap Crap" next to his HD.  I said, "Oh...Okay" and then leaned over my bike, and with my left hand grabbed the frame and with my right the rear shock and lifted it  maybe waist high and walked several feet with it, set it down.  I asked if that was okay and if he wanted it further away I would gladly lift his bike and move it instead.  Of course I could not have done that with a much heavier bike, I think his was a Low Rider.

I then walked surrounded by silence to the showroom where a friend that was in sales waited to greet me at the door.  He smiled and I asked him if the guy was still watching me and he said no.  I told him, "Good! Cuz I think I screwed my back up!"   ;D  This childish, albeit lots of fun, display of strength was made possible by being able to do high rep, relatively light weight squats for years.  I have no doubt about that.

That and retard strength.

I like Vespas but I do not fit them well and the small wheels are too twitchy steering-wise for me.

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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #184 on: August 15, 2021, 10:19:38 AM »

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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #185 on: August 15, 2021, 11:01:01 AM »


This is something like I`m trying to explain.
I absolutely fucking HATE this type of low bar squatting bullshit. Talk about fucking everything up. ::)  I typically put the bar right low onto the meaty part of the traps, still above the rear delts but not on the high side. I do have that stupid hump where the bar rested when I was young. :(
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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #186 on: August 15, 2021, 11:02:52 AM »
I do my leg press with my feet close together and toes pointed out kind of like a duck.


I heard Chaos can’t wheelie because his skirt might fly up in his face ! 😁

It's called a kilt!! Quack quack
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« Reply #187 on: August 15, 2021, 11:15:57 AM »
It's called a kilt!! Quack quack

I used to have a few Lava Lavas. It's sorta the Samoan version of the kilt.  ;D

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« Reply #188 on: August 15, 2021, 12:51:54 PM »
This picture although it was made into a funny gif it was an actual set of training squats with 315.You can see it was a complete different style than the picture from 1980.The bar is high on my shoulders and the stance is somewhat narrow.This was taken just a few years ago before my hip started going bad and it was a set of squats for training my quads where the picture in 1980 I was just somehow trying to get that 600 lbs back up.

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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #189 on: August 16, 2021, 01:17:04 PM »
Hey knucklehead,

JustPlaneJane said, "I think I can lift the 225, but the knurling on the bar really made a mark on the skin on my upper back." I posted the picture for her benefit. If she'd had this piece of equipment to use, the bar cutting into her skin on her back wouldn't be a problem. It doesn't make doing squats any easier, just a little more comfortable.

Almost every gym I've worked out at has at least one of these.

I've seen heavy full squats done by several lifters using a "manta ray".

For a lot of these folks , having a hardcore image is more important then the actual lift or building  muscle.

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« Reply #190 on: August 16, 2021, 01:23:28 PM »
I've seen heavy full squats done by several lifters using a "manta ray".

For a lot of these folks , having a hardcore image is more important then the actual lift or building  muscle.

If I recall correctly the manta ray was a device to enable lifters to do front squats and concentrate on the actual exercise and not be distracted by choking yourself with a barbell a completely different story from using some device to stop the knurling hurting the delicate skin of ones traps, there is nothing hardcore about squatting with a bar it’s just normal

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« Reply #191 on: August 16, 2021, 02:48:37 PM »
If I recall correctly the manta ray was a device to enable lifters to do front squats and concentrate on the actual exercise and not be distracted by choking yourself with a barbell a completely different story from using some device to stop the knurling hurting the delicate skin of ones traps, there is nothing hardcore about squatting with a bar it’s just normal

With the Manta Ray, the bar no longer rests at the deltoids or pulls the arms back as in the unaided barbell back squat. It transfers the load to the traps exclusively and doesn’t involve the shoulders. The load is spread over much more surface area than the bar. This gets rid of squat-related stress to the shoulder complex.

For the front squat, the Sting Ray lifts the bar off the collarbone without stressing shoulders, elbows, or wrists. By moving the load out to the front delts, keeping the arms in a protected neutral position it decreases problems that typically occur with common front squats.




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« Reply #192 on: August 16, 2021, 02:56:51 PM »
With the Manta Ray, the bar no longer rests at the deltoids or pulls the arms back as in the unaided barbell back squat. It transfers the load to the traps exclusively and doesn’t involve the shoulders. The load is spread over much more surface area than the bar. This gets rid of squat-related stress to the shoulder complex.

For the front squat, the Sting Ray lifts the bar off the collarbone without stressing shoulders, elbows, or wrists. By moving the load out to the front delts, keeping the arms in a protected neutral position it decreases problems that typically occur with common front squats.





I must have gotten the name wrong i was thinking of some enormous plastic contraption from about 20 years ago that was for doing front squats with fuck knows what the actual name was could have sworn manta ray but appears not to be

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« Reply #193 on: August 16, 2021, 03:01:08 PM »
I must have gotten the name wrong i was thinking of some enormous plastic contraption from about 20 years ago that was for doing front squats with fuck knows what the actual name was could have sworn manta ray but appears not to be

It's all good.  Before you mentioned using the Manta Ray for front squats I never heard of the Sting Ray. So now we both know something we didn't before.

It's hard to tell what it is made from but could this be the contraption you mentioned?



Personally, I like using the squat machine for doing front squats.


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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #194 on: August 16, 2021, 03:23:04 PM »
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Re: Squat and General Activity Update
« Reply #195 on: August 16, 2021, 03:32:04 PM »




No need to bring Chaos into this !

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« Reply #196 on: August 16, 2021, 05:14:46 PM »
I absolutely fucking HATE this type of low bar squatting bullshit. Talk about fucking everything up. ::)  I typically put the bar right low onto the meaty part of the traps, still above the rear delts but not on the high side. I do have that stupid hump where the bar rested when I was young. :(

I could never do low bar squats.

Always did a higher version.

They didn't feel right low on the traps.

Maybe it's my long arms?

And the manta ray device.

Never seen one in a gym or anyone use one.

Wrap a towel around the bar or use the "pussy pad". No offence JPJ. That's what we always called them. I used to throw them across the gym at random people. ;D

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« Reply #197 on: August 16, 2021, 05:36:57 PM »
Sprint cyclists have some big thighs.

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« Reply #198 on: August 16, 2021, 05:40:32 PM »
Sprint cyclists have some big thighs.
crazy big quads seems like I remember Olympic speed skater Eric Hyden had huge quads.I guess there are more than one way to skin a cat

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« Reply #199 on: August 16, 2021, 06:14:22 PM »
No need to bring Chaos into this !

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