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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2021, 03:11:04 PM »
Haney had a magical physique. The impact it made was something else. You could critisize the individual parts but taken as a whole it was incredible.




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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2021, 03:14:33 PM »
Haney had a magical physique. The impact it made was something else. You could critisize the individual parts but taken as a whole it was incredible.



To each their own.  I disagree. I find him pedestrian at best.  As I said, I think Weider gave him 8 wins in a vainglorious attempt to show Arnold who was "boss". 

Haney won some O's but not 8 in my opinion and yes, I know opinions are like Goodrums assholes...

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2021, 03:16:14 PM »
Haney had a magical physique. The impact it made was something else. You could critisize the individual parts but taken as a whole it was incredible.



Thanks for posting this.  I almost forgot how incredible the great Lee Haney truly was.  His best form vs Dorian's best vs Ronnie's best is really a pick em. 

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2021, 03:23:48 PM »
To each their own.  I disagree. I find him pedestrian at best.  As I said, I think Weider gave him 8 wins in a vainglorious attempt to show Arnold who was "boss". 

Haney won some O's but not 8 in my opinion and yes, I know opinions are like Goodrums assholes...

Different tastes. I know Haney's physique tended to demoralize his competitors. There was a quality to it that was very hard to beat. The depth, the density, how the skin wrapped around the muscle. Skin is one of those things that has a big impact in bb. Those videos still make me go "holy shit", like how could anyone from that era hope to beat him.

As far as structure goes Yates was damn near perfect, it's an underappreciated quality in Dorian. He was nothing like the refridgerator Cutler like another poster said. His skin was damn unique too, no one could duplicate it no matter how lean.

Thanks for posting this.  I almost forgot how incredible the great Lee Haney truly was.  His best form vs Dorian's best vs Ronnie's best is really a pick em.

That combo of shots from 1:30-1:50, just unbeatable.

Haney retired just before higher doses of 191AA growth became practical. Just imagine him on years worth of 12iu growth as well as thermogenics like clen to get those glutes and hams harder. Would have been a sight to see.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2021, 03:27:12 PM »
To each their own.  I disagree. I find him pedestrian at best.  As I said, I think Weider gave him 8 wins in a vainglorious attempt to show Arnold who was "boss". 

Haney won some O's but not 8 in my opinion and yes, I know opinions are like Goodrums assholes...

What flaw or complaint do you have with Haney? He had that massive golden Era chest and vaccum along with modern legs condition and size? He had the best of both Era small hips like Wheeler but more muscular grainy look like Dorain also with a bigger chest and no SEO or Insulin and a decent height as well (same height as me so a little biased)

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2021, 04:47:56 PM »
What flaw or complaint do you have with Haney? He had that massive golden Era chest and vaccum along with modern legs condition and size? He had the best of both Era small hips like Wheeler but more muscular grainy look like Dorain also with a bigger chest and no SEO or Insulin and a decent height as well (same height as me so a little biased)

I think Haney is not really all that great.  I don't think much of his physique and find his attitude toward his drug usage disingenuous  (as "documented" in one of those Weider commercials, LOL!)  to say the least.   I prefer Arnold, Zane, Nubret, Paris, et al.  I think Steve Reeves is the best natural (and by far the handsomest) bodybuilder ever.   Arnold is the best druggie.    Arnold had "massthetics" if you will.  Haney? Nope.  Yates?  Nope. Coleman? Fuck that idiot.  Cutler? Uhhhh...Nope! 

I think Oliva was better too.  Much better.  I just think Haney is overrated.  I prefer the 40s through maybe 84 or so.   Others such as yourself think differently.  No problem.  Every single one of the "modern" era retards are proof of it is not so much "genetics" that matter above all, but that drugs just plain work.  Even women get huge and strong on drugs.  Ridiculous.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2021, 07:45:28 PM »
nobody would beat 2003 ronnie

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2021, 07:52:32 PM »
93 Yates had the best shoulder to waist ratio I've seen.

Lenda Murray….all day long.   😁

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2021, 07:53:05 PM »
Lenda Murray….all day long.   😁

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2021, 08:10:42 PM »
I think Haney is not really all that great.  I don't think much of his physique and find his attitude toward his drug usage disingenuous  (as "documented" in one of those Weider commercials, LOL!)  to say the least.   I prefer Arnold, Zane, Nubret, Paris, et al.  I think Steve Reeves is the best natural (and by far the handsomest) bodybuilder ever.   Arnold is the best druggie.    Arnold had "massthetics" if you will.  Haney? Nope.  Yates?  Nope. Coleman? Fuck that idiot.  Cutler? Uhhhh...Nope! 

I think Oliva was better too.  Much better.  I just think Haney is overrated.  I prefer the 40s through maybe 84 or so.   Others such as yourself think differently.  No problem.  Every single one of the "modern" era retards are proof of it is not so much "genetics" that matter above all, but that drugs just plain work.  Even women get huge and strong on drugs.  Ridiculous.

Steve Reeves natural Lol are you kidding?

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2021, 08:52:56 PM »
Steve Reeves natural Lol are you kidding?

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2021, 09:05:18 PM »
Steve Reeves natural Lol are you kidding?


Kurt Marnul, Arnold's trainer, claimed Steve Reeves sold him his first steroids in 1952 in Europe.

But for all intents and purposes he was basically natural even if he did experiment. It could only have been very little.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2021, 10:05:00 PM »
Dorian Yates 1993


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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2021, 10:15:31 PM »
Dorian Yates 1993

I saw Dorian guest pose in 1996 at 310lbs with abs.  I was within 10 feet of him backstage.  Mesmerizing how insane his dimensions were.  Later that year I saw Levrone, Francois and Dillet all guest pose at different venues.  After seeing Dorian, they were a huge let down.  He was so much bigger, better and detailed than those guys.  And those guys were freaks. 

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2021, 02:13:52 AM »
Dorian Yates 1993


Ray who couldn't cut above 212 pretty much beat this guy.  In shape, Cutler would have beat him soundly.  Both have block genetics.




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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2021, 02:58:29 AM »
Ray who couldn't cut above 212 pretty much beat this guy.  In shape, Cutler would have beat him soundly.  Both have block genetics.



Cutler was a block, Yates wasn't. Yates' skeleton gives the appearance of being much lighter. His scapula was much narrower too which, when a lot of muscle is stacked on top, gives a much more dramatic effect. I've often said that very wide scapula is a negative in bb. Look at Haney, somewhat narrow compared to many. Cutler has shorter legs too which is the single thing that ruins the most aesthetic impressions but most haven't connected this in their minds. Haney had long legs too.

Look at the shoulders of Yates here. Vince Taylor is wider.
Look at the leg length of both Yates and Haney.
Look at the aesthetics of peaked Yates, Cutler never made this type of impression IMO. Though it is somewhat subjective. What you could critisize on Yates is the lack of quad separation mainly.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2021, 03:04:19 AM »
Shawn Ray.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #42 on: September 10, 2021, 03:39:39 AM »

Kurt Marnul, Arnold's trainer, claimed Steve Reeves sold him his first steroids in 1952 in Europe.

But for all intents and purposes he was basically natural even if he did experiment. It could only have been very little.

Testosterone was already being marketed to bodybuilders in 1937 a full decade before Reeves won Mr America in 1947 the entire damn lineup was on Testosterone by 1947

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2021, 03:55:03 AM »
You're right. 93 Yates might be the best of all time.

Bodybuilding peaked with yates 93. His overall structure shape and condition has never been matched not even by the man himself, he regressed from that point. But still deserved all his wins.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2021, 06:51:02 AM »
I was at the 1993 Mr Olympia. It would be hard for me to imagine anyone from any era beating that version of Dorian.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2021, 08:16:47 AM »
Bodybuilding peaked with yates 93. His overall structure shape and condition has never been matched not even by the man himself, he regressed from that point. But still deserved all his wins.
Hey , Dorian !

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2021, 03:39:43 PM »
Ray who couldn't cut above 212 pretty much beat this guy.  In shape, Cutler would have beat him soundly.  Both have block genetics.



name the poses jay wins, quad stomp is not a mandatory

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2021, 02:51:55 PM »
Most unbeatable physique ever presented on stage at the Olympia? I’d say the freaky 2003 Ronnie, although I prefer the 1998/1999 version.

Physique I would most like to have, 1983 Samir.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2021, 04:08:24 PM »
Most unbeatable physique ever presented on stage at the Olympia? I’d say the freaky 2003 Ronnie, although I prefer the 1998/1999 version.

Physique I would most like to have, 1983 Samir.

You have good taste.

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Re: Out of all of the Mr. O's
« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2021, 04:15:01 PM »
Ronnie Coleman -1998
Dorian -1993
Cutler -2009