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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #125 on: October 12, 2021, 01:54:10 PM »
Quote from: King Shizzo on October 12, 2021, 06:15:39 AM
Im saying that EVERYONE has said something that would potentially offend others.

Does that mean everyone should be fired or shamed into resigning? The fact is, if Gruden never wrote those emails, and instead spoke the same things in person, he still would have his job.

He sealed his fate when he talked shit about the head of the players union, Roger Goodell, and NFL owners. Way too many powerful people wanted him gone.

If you have ever made a race joke, you are now a racist.

If you have ever referred to a woman as a slut, then you are a mysoginist.

If you have ever made a gay joke or said someone is a fag, you are homophobic.

See how ridiculous this is all becoming?

By today's cancel culture standards, we are all of the above and more.

Which is why I say don't be a hypocrite.

make your jokes, whatever don't leave a digital trail. If i started suddenly making racist jokes on linkedin.. i should prob get fired,
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #126 on: October 12, 2021, 02:06:38 PM »
Quote from: Tom on October 12, 2021, 06:47:13 AM
context and nuance matters....

gruden using the "F" word about others, racist and misogyny terms and so on and on a REGULAR basis is quite different from any of us once in awhile or a long time ago telling a bad joke... Personally? i've never used the "F" word or the "N" word in anyway......

like i said context and nuance matters!.. if someone shoot you and another person slaps your hand they are NOT the same thing and should be judged accordingly!...

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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #127 on: October 12, 2021, 02:08:32 PM »
Quote from: El Diablo Blanco on October 12, 2021, 07:28:06 AM
Why is someone digging up 10 year old emails anyways? How did the NYT get access to them?

The NFL is releasing these Gruden emails.  Nice.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #128 on: October 12, 2021, 02:10:31 PM »
Quote from: Tom on October 12, 2021, 06:47:13 AM
context and nuance matters....

gruden using the "F" word about others, racist and misogyny terms and so on and on a REGULAR basis is quite different from any of us once in awhile or a long time ago telling a bad joke... Personally? i've never used the "F" word or the "N" word in anyway......

like i said context and nuance matters!.. if someone shoot you and another person slaps your hand they are NOT the same thing and should be judged accordingly!...
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #129 on: October 12, 2021, 03:07:14 PM »
Quote from: Shakh on October 12, 2021, 05:13:14 AM
If one black man made a joke about the size of another black mans lips?
You are a fucking moron hahaha

The moron is you when you look at yourself in the mirror everyday

You being a raiders fan speaks volumes of self ownage

No need for me to go on any further
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #130 on: October 12, 2021, 03:19:00 PM »
Quote from: Dave D on October 12, 2021, 01:43:14 PM
Gruden will get another job.

He only said bad stuff. Guys like Antonio Brown, Richard Sherman, Frank Clark, Aldon Smith, etc….
actually committed crimes against people and they are still employed.

You forgot one difference…..

I don’t see him ever coaching in the NFL again. If it was the 90’s, he’d be back but not nowadays. His best bet is it take to social media for football commentary and film breakdowns unless they also ban him.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #131 on: October 12, 2021, 04:34:51 PM »
Gruden was "cancelled" simple as that. It started with an Investigation into Dan Snyder and looking into his private emails..over 650,000 of them. They happened to see Grudens name within some of those emails WHEN HE WASN'T EVEN IN THE LEAGUE during that time. Did what he say some things that were offensive? yes, but in this day and age everything is offensive. These were private emails. Ever been on the sidelines, locker room or practice? Gruden was a byproduct of that investigation that he wasn't even apart of
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #132 on: October 12, 2021, 04:44:02 PM »
Quote from: Les Grossman on October 10, 2021, 11:38:28 AM
“The NFL’s values…”

It is a league of corrupt owners, felons, anti-American assholes, drug addicts, murderers, and wifebeaters.

The NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB can all FOAD.

Disco.  It's all lip service and meaningless shit.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #133 on: October 12, 2021, 04:48:40 PM »
Quote from: Rambone on October 12, 2021, 03:19:00 PM
You forgot one difference…..

I don’t see him ever coaching in the NFL again. If it was the 90’s, he’d be back but not nowadays. His best bet is it take to social media for football commentary and film breakdowns unless they also ban him.

No I agree he won’t be coaching again.

I was just pointing out how dumb it is that words mean more than actions in out society.

But we saw it with the last Presidental election, Trumps offensive words were worse than his “good” actions. Meanwhile we elected a guy who voted as much “racist” legislation as anyone, who is as equally self serving btw, but said what people wanted to hear.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #134 on: October 12, 2021, 04:51:17 PM »
Gruden will be hired by Barstool Sports within one month.  They are huge. Very deep pockets. And the the CEO hates NFL commissioner Roger Godell. 

Barstool Sports and Gruden are a perfect fit.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #135 on: October 12, 2021, 04:52:19 PM »
Quote from: Dave D on October 12, 2021, 04:48:40 PM
No I agree he won’t be coaching again.

I was just pointing out how dumb it is that words mean more than actions in out society.

But we saw it with the last Presidental election, Trumps offensive words were worse than his “good” actions. Meanwhile we elected a guy who voted as much “racist” legislation as anyone, who is as equally self serving btw, but said what people wanted to hear.

I doubt he'll being doing anything related to the NFL again. Too bad, he was a good coach
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #136 on: October 12, 2021, 04:57:55 PM »
Quote from: tommywishbone on October 12, 2021, 04:51:17 PM
Gruden will be hired by Barstool Sports within one month.  They are huge. Very deep pockets. And the the CEO hates NFL commissioner Roger Godell. 

Barstool Sports and Gruden are a perfect fit.

Goodell is such leftist piece of shit that he's fucked over the NFL and the fans over big time with this "social justice" bullshit that no one wants to watch...at least the pre-game crap and the changing of the rules makes it almost like fucking flag football
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #137 on: October 12, 2021, 05:33:53 PM »
Quote from: Coach is Back! on October 12, 2021, 04:57:55 PM
Goodell is such leftist piece of shit that he's fucked over the NFL and the fans over big time with this "social justice" bullshit that no one wants to watch...at least the pre-game crap and the changing of the rules makes it almost like fucking flag football

It will be interesting to see how the NFL tries to spin this whole event. If they were "releasing" emails until Gruden was pressured to quit or be fired that could be viewed as blackmail/strong arming, which would be  illegal.

They almost have to release all the emails at this point.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #138 on: October 12, 2021, 06:00:52 PM »
Quote from: Dave D on October 12, 2021, 05:33:53 PM
It will be interesting to see how the NFL tries to spin this whole event. If they were "releasing" emails until Gruden was pressured to quit or be fired that could be viewed as blackmail/strong arming, which would be  illegal.

They almost have to release all the emails at this point.

I just heard from an attorney on Newsmax that the releasing of those emails was illegal possibly due to a privacy act since Gruden wasn't apart of the NFL when those emails were exchanged.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #139 on: October 12, 2021, 06:53:51 PM »
Quote from: Coach is Back! on October 12, 2021, 06:00:52 PM
I just heard from an attorney on Newsmax that the releasing of those emails was illegal possibly due to a privacy act since Gruden wasn't apart of the NFL when those emails were exchanged.

Yeah, his career is ruined but I hope the NFL is held responsible for leaking these when they refused to release any information regarding the sexual misconduct with WFT's owner and leadership.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #140 on: October 12, 2021, 06:55:37 PM »
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #141 on: October 12, 2021, 06:59:30 PM »
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #142 on: October 13, 2021, 07:42:54 AM »
Quote from: Shakh on October 12, 2021, 06:04:22 AM
Gruden is a racist misogynist homophobic narcissistic ASSHOLE and your only criticism of him is that he was stupid to leave a paper trail?

did you know all that before the tv told you so

fucking goof
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #143 on: October 13, 2021, 07:46:23 AM »
Gruden was 4th highest paid NFL head coach at $10 mil a year.

Chump change for a Getbigger.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #144 on: October 13, 2021, 08:09:53 AM »
gruden get his full salary still?
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #145 on: October 13, 2021, 09:00:22 AM »
Quote from: Tom on October 13, 2021, 08:09:53 AM
gruden get his full salary still?

Nope.  He resigned and forfeits all future salary including unpaid for the current season.

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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #146 on: October 13, 2021, 09:13:23 AM »
Quote from: IroNat on October 13, 2021, 09:00:22 AM
Nope.  He resigned and forfeits all future salary including unpaid for the current season.



I'm sure part of his resignation agreement was a nice bonus to walk away quietly so the team can move on.
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #147 on: October 13, 2021, 11:44:56 AM »
Quote from: IroNat on October 13, 2021, 09:00:22 AM
Nope.  He resigned and forfeits all future salary including unpaid for the current season.
He fucked up.  He should have forced them to fire him and he would have had a lawsuit especially because the emails were from before he was back in the league.  NEVER RESIGN! 
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #148 on: October 13, 2021, 02:14:13 PM »
Gruden did not look healthy lately. 
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Re: Goodbye Gruden
« Reply #149 on: October 13, 2021, 02:47:09 PM »
Quote from: Shakh on October 12, 2021, 06:04:22 AM
Gruden is a racist misogynist homophobic narcissistic ASSHOLE and your only criticism of him is that he was stupid to leave a paper trail?

HAHAHA!

A small children being told what to think and then repeating what he was told.

Another coward.
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