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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2022, 04:07:20 AM »
Holyfield was almost 59 and is in noticeable cognitive decline fighting against a 44 year old.

Paulie and JCC Jr just didn't take it serious enough.

Belfort Anderson and lobo were also all cut from the ufc after losing their last half dozen fights or so and were way past their primes and old as well. They still all beat champion boxers something you said will never happen it has already happened multiple times

46 year old Anderson looked like he would beat Chavez 10 out of 10 times

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2022, 04:09:47 AM »
Dude stfu you obviously know nothing/zilch/nada about boxing.

Ps Fury put Steve Cunningham to sleep.

Fury held Steve Cunningham the cruiser weight  with an elbow to the throat and then hit him with an illegal shot it was a clear foul he should have Been DQ

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2022, 04:16:50 AM »
Bhank, have you ever considered running a sportsbook or a bookies? You’d make bank on boxing….

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2022, 04:22:11 AM »
Bhank, have you ever considered running a sportsbook or a bookies? You’d make bank on boxing….

Fury beat an old kilts hip a decade ago then a 212lb wilder who never fight anyone other than a 50 year old Ortiz and now we are supposed to believe he is the second coming bullshit. 4 ounce gloves 6 rounds and my money is on Frances

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2022, 04:26:36 AM »
Fury vs Ngannou would look like this


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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2022, 04:29:41 AM »
Are we going to pretend Anderson Silva at 46 years old didn’t just beat Julio Cesar Chavez jr in a boxing match? Did vitor Belford not just destroy Holyfield?? Did Pauline not lose a bare knuckle boxing match to a 3rd string ufc washout?

Chavez Holyfield abs paulie were all boxing champions they all lost to mma guys in boxing
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is not his father.....he sucks so badly I could probably beat him.......he`s lazy with no discipline just like you are.   ::)

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2022, 04:34:09 AM »
Fury vs Ngannou would look like this


That knockdown looks scripted.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2022, 04:49:16 AM »
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is not his father.....he sucks so badly I could probably beat him.......he`s lazy with no discipline just like you are.   ::)

He was a middle weight champion and he lost in a boxing match to a 46 year old mma guy

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2022, 05:26:21 AM »
No he didn’t he was behind in the score cards after 6 funny how people rewrite  history. My Gregg or didn’t know how to pace for 12 rounds but he was absolutelt winning after 6. Are we going to pretend Mayweather Carried Logan  Paul as well?? You know it is illegal to carry a fighter in a sanctioned fight

Have you seen many Mayweather fights? McGregor was being toyed with.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2022, 05:51:45 AM »
Fury beat an old kilts hip a decade ago then a 212lb wilder who never fight anyone other than a 50 year old Ortiz and now we are supposed to believe he is the second coming bullshit. 4 ounce gloves 6 rounds and my money is on Frances

Ok. So who else should Fury have fought? Joshua just got beat by a blown up Cruiser (albeit a very good one.) Wilder had his head kicked in twice by Fury, and last time out weighed in at 238. Hardly a small guy.

The only way Ngannou beats Fury is under MMA rules; look at Toney vs Couture to see how that goes. In a boxing match you could give Fury 16oz gloves and Ngannou 4oz gloves, and it still wouldn’t be a contest.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2022, 06:09:41 AM »
Ok. So who else should Fury have fought? Joshua just got beat by a blown up Cruiser (albeit a very good one.) Wilder had his head kicked in twice by Fury, and last time out weighed in at 238. Hardly a small guy.

The only way Ngannou beats Fury is under MMA rules; look at Toney vs Couture to see how that goes. In a boxing match you could give Fury 16oz gloves and Ngannou 4oz gloves, and it still wouldn’t be a contest.


It doesn’t always go that way champion boxers have beaten champion mma guys in mma

And

Champion mma guys have beaten champion boxers in boxing



Stop overthinking a fist fight. Take away the big glove blocks and it’s a lot more even than you think but the gloves and rule differences have been overcome many times and will be again.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2022, 02:16:59 PM »

It doesn’t always go that way champion boxers have beaten champion mma guys in mma

And

Champion mma guys have beaten champion boxers in boxing



Stop overthinking a fist fight. Take away the big glove blocks and it’s a lot more even than you think but the gloves and rule differences have been overcome many times and will be again.

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I've never seen this Ray KO. One punch and Tim was out instantly. It should tell you something about how an MMA guy standing defense is lacking too much and they're so akward with their chin up in the air.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2022, 03:28:35 AM »
:o
I've never seen this Ray KO. One punch and Tim was out instantly. It should tell you something about how an MMA guy standing defense is lacking too much and they're so akward with their chin up in the air.

It tells me boxing can beat mma in mma and mma can beat boxing in boxing these guys are fighters there is a lot more parity than you think. All the mma guys train boxing now with professional boxers. Frances doesn’t throw kicks he doesn’t shoot takedowns he throws hands he is essentially a boxer

Anything can happen in a fist fight

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2022, 05:45:04 AM »
Have you seen many Mayweather fights? McGregor was being toyed with.

Exactly why would he do that?

Mayweather knocked McGregor out in the 10th round. That didn't happen by accident: Mayweather knew that McGregor has a gas tank of 25 minutes on his best day. So Mayweather waited for McGregor to get over 25 minutes in, before going for the finish.

In boxing terms, with three minute rounds, after round eight, 24 minutes had passed.

The end of round nine got to 27 minutes - safely passed 25.

So any time in round ten was safe to go for the finish.

Lol @ Getbiggers of all people thinking some 150-lb manlet like Mayweather has anything resembling knockout power. Mayweather has ALWAYS been a defensive fighter. Let alone the 40-year-old version of Manletweather.

His last knockout was, what, in 2007?  ???

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2022, 06:30:09 AM »
Exactly why would he do that?

Mayweather knocked McGregor out in the 10th round. That didn't happen by accident: Mayweather knew that McGregor has a gas tank of 25 minutes on his best day. So Mayweather waited for McGregor to get over 25 minutes in, before going for the finish.

In boxing terms, with three minute rounds, after round eight, 24 minutes had passed.

The end of round nine got to 27 minutes - safely passed 25.

So any time in round ten was safe to go for the finish.

Lol @ Getbiggers of all people thinking some 150-lb manlet like Mayweather has anything resembling knockout power. Mayweather has ALWAYS been a defensive fighter. Let alone the 40-year-old version of Manletweather.

His last knockout was, what, in 2007?  ???

I agree it wasn't Mayweather's gameplan to try to knock him out early. I don't think Mayweather altered any part of his usual strategy to fight McGregor. He fought him the same way he fought most his fights with rolling and countering etc. I don't think McGregor ever seriously challenged Mayweather or put his defensive skills to any major test. I think this was a walk in the park for Mayweather. 

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2022, 06:33:49 AM »
I agree it wasn't Mayweather's gameplan to try to knock him out early. I don't think Mayweather altered any part of his usual strategy to fight McGregor. He fought him the same way he fought most his fights with rolling and countering etc. I don't think McGregor ever seriously challenged Mayweather or put his defensive skills to any major test. I think this was a walk in the park for Mayweather.

He hit Mayweather more than manny Pac-Man did not going for an early ko is one thing he didn’t plan to catch a clean uppercut he didn’t plan to get hit that much

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2022, 06:36:34 AM »
McGreggor hit Floyd 111 times in 10 rounds with a 26% connect rate

Pac-Man hit Floyd 81 times in 12 rounds with a 19% connect rate

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2017/8/27/16210452/conor-mcgregor-lands-111-punches-floyd-mayweather

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2022, 06:43:56 AM »
Floyd fought almost the perfect fight for his age. If you want to tire an inexperienced guy out in order to stop him later, you fight how Floyd did. Pressure him, get him to throw lots of shots, and take the vast majority of them on your arms or roll with them. Hardly anything from Connor actually landed (early uppercut aside). Floyd obviously knew he didn't have the power to blast Connor out of there, but he knew he could tire him out and then put the pressure on later. Connor performed well, but he fell into the plan perfectly and punched himself out.

I'm pretty sure Floyd said he was aiming for a 9th round stoppage but couldn't quite get it. He's a massive gambler and will have had his friends and family all betting on that late outcome.

Watch what Floyd is doing (start around 15:00). No respect for his power, walking him down, high guard, throwing pot shots. It's like he's sparring a novice.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2022, 07:23:27 AM »
McGreggor hit Floyd 111 times in 10 rounds with a 26% connect rate

Pac-Man hit Floyd 81 times in 12 rounds with a 19% connect rate

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2017/8/27/16210452/conor-mcgregor-lands-111-punches-floyd-mayweather

so fcuking what - If you really couldn't see the "Fight" was a complete farce Then you're beyond help.
All about big $s They Knew idiots would watch & pay - I cant blame either floyd or connor they got paid
millions of $s .

Loved to have seen Floyd fight some of his tougher & very questionable wins in the same pathetic
half hearted pathetic manner he did in that fiasco with Connor.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2022, 07:29:03 AM »
so fcuking what - If you really couldn't see the "Fight" was a complete farce Then you're beyond help.
All about big $s They Knew idiots would watch & pay - I cant blame either floyd or connor they got paid
millions of $s .

Loved to have seen Floyd fight some of his tougher & very questionable wins in the same pathetic
half hearted pathetic manner he did in that fiasco with Connor.

How is it a farce when it goes 10 rounds and he gets hit over 100 times that is way more competitive than 95% of boxing matches. People who follow boxing think these guys are invincible Becasue they pad their records with bums and no hopes not even trying to win.  Fact of the matter is boxers even champion boxers have lost to mma fighters in boxing. And mma fighters have lost to boxers in mma. Everyone says it’s a different sport it is still a godamn fist fight. Frances has way more one punch ko power than Fury. He is the physically stronger fighter who is more athletic he would be on Tyson throwing bombs. You guys talk about skill meanwhile wilder has none and Tyson actually moved like shit in his last fight against Wilder he would absolutely get caught by Frances

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2022, 08:09:45 AM »
Exactly why would he do that?

Mayweather knocked McGregor out in the 10th round. That didn't happen by accident: Mayweather knew that McGregor has a gas tank of 25 minutes on his best day. So Mayweather waited for McGregor to get over 25 minutes in, before going for the finish.

In boxing terms, with three minute rounds, after round eight, 24 minutes had passed.

The end of round nine got to 27 minutes - safely passed 25.

So any time in round ten was safe to go for the finish.

Lol @ Getbiggers of all people thinking some 150-lb manlet like Mayweather has anything resembling knockout power. Mayweather has ALWAYS been a defensive fighter. Let alone the 40-year-old version of Manletweather.

His last knockout was, what, in 2007?  ???

Matt, I’ve seen Donald Curry knock out 200 lb sparring partners when he only weighed 145-150 lbs.

You have to see a good professional boxer throw a punch to believe the power they can generate.

Even a jab from a true pro power puncher is thrown violently. An MMA fighter with rudimentary boxing skills (regardless of size) has little chance against a good boxer in a boxing match.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2022, 08:16:02 AM »
Matt, I’ve seen Donald Curry knock out 200 lb sparring partners when he only weighed 145-150 lbs.

You have to see a good professional boxer throw a punch to believe the power they can generate.

Even a jab from a true pro power puncher is thrown violently. An MMA fighter with rudimentary boxing skills (regardless of size) has little chance against a good boxer in a boxing match.

So explain how Julio Cesar Chavez Jr the former middle weight champ lost a 10 round boxing match to Anderson Silva?? Explain how Artur Lobov a journeyman ufc washout beat Paulie Maglianni a former junior welterweight boxing champion in bare knuckle boxing. Explain Holyfield losing to Belfort in a round? Explain more mma guys winning vs boxers at Triad

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mmasucka.com/2021/11/27/triad-combat-a-success-in-debut-show-as-team-mma-wins-the-night/amp/

You guys are saying it can’t be done it has been done many times

Dillian whyte is undefeated in Mma. Jarred big baby Miller was a kickboxing champion. These guys all have crossover skills nowadays when you go into a gym you are going to be exposed to a lot of different styles.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2022, 09:11:16 AM »
How is it a farce when it goes 10 rounds and he gets hit over 100 times that is way more competitive than 95% of boxing matches. People who follow boxing think these guys are invincible Becasue they pad their records with bums and no hopes not even trying to win.  Fact of the matter is boxers even champion boxers have lost to mma fighters in boxing. And mma fighters have lost to boxers in mma. Everyone says it’s a different sport it is still a godamn fist fight. Frances has way more one punch ko power than Fury. He is the physically stronger fighter who is more athletic he would be on Tyson throwing bombs. You guys talk about skill meanwhile wilder has none and Tyson actually moved like shit in his last fight against Wilder he would absolutely get caught by Frances

WTF are you rambling on about ??
Are you one of those computer Bot programmes - your reply has Fuck all to do with anything I said.
If you really believe it wasn't a " Farcical Exhibition match" Then.............
Go Fuck off & seek Help.

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2022, 10:21:29 AM »
So explain how Julio Cesar Chavez Jr the former middle weight champ lost a 10 round boxing match to Anderson Silva?? Explain how Artur Lobov a journeyman ufc washout beat Paulie Maglianni a former junior welterweight boxing champion in bare knuckle boxing. Explain Holyfield losing to Belfort in a round? Explain more mma guys winning vs boxers at Triad

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mmasucka.com/2021/11/27/triad-combat-a-success-in-debut-show-as-team-mma-wins-the-night/amp/

You guys are saying it can’t be done it has been done many times

Dillian whyte is undefeated in Mma. Jarred big baby Miller was a kickboxing champion. These guys all have crossover skills nowadays when you go into a gym you are going to be exposed to a lot of different styles.



Let me guess, you learned everything you know about fighting from watching “Fight Club” fifty times?

Suck a cock you wifebeating phaggot

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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Francis Ngannou
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2022, 11:04:37 AM »


Let me guess, you learned everything you know about fighting from watching “Fight Club” fifty times?

Suck a cock you wifebeating phaggot

I am the only one here who even knew about Mercer Silva and I saw it live the rest of you are casuals you don’t know the fight game

You guys want to debate crossover fights and don’t even know the history of crossover fights