Will we go back to normal after covid?

[Ronnie Rep]

I don't think we will see a "normal" as normal as we had before the advent of COVID. I think we will be trained to adapt to a new "normal" post-COVID world.

Just like after 9/11 we were introduced to the TSA and it revolutionized the way in which we do travel through/from airports (i.e. take off your shoes, belts and empty your pockets before going through an "arms-in-the-air" metal detector) for the greater part of 20+ years, I also think there will be long-term changes that this pandemic will bring about in our way of living. What exactly that will entail, I am not sure. But after these types of events, I typically find that it's our basic freedoms that get chipped away at for the "greater" good.

"1"

This , Welcome to the new normal.

[Getbiger of the past Bast]

This is the reason why people like "OAK" are doing the wrong thing complying as much as possible.  Reduced freedoms forever.    He and others like him are helping governments in reducing freedom to travel, go to public and private places, closing gyms,  shutting down small businesses, spending tax payer money even more excessively than before, and many other things that is making most people's lives less enjoyable / more unpleasant.

THEY CLOSED GYMS but NOT Liquor Stores.     This isn't about Health you naïve, complying useful idiots.   

This fearmonger campaign and the the majority of people who are useful idiots helping it has been very successful for a lot of powerful wealthy people like Bill Gates... So effective that they are gonna keep doing it.    More overhyped or fake pandemics to come.   

[deadz]

     Regardless of your stance on masks, vaccines, conspiracy theories or mandates, do you think this will EVER end and people walk around maskless and care free again at ANY point? 2 years? 5? Or has this become engrained in our culture now? The longer this goes on, the more it becomes our culture. What will movies be about in the next 5 years?
     You can't make any realistic movie about current life set in 2020-2024 without covid in it. So you have to make more superhero sequels or period pieces. Nothing much to talk about in reality. I guess movies will just become set in fantasy worlds. Just like our lives. Just more covid. Every character from every book set in this era will have to reference covid. Is there a turning back?
     Whether the hoax runs it's course like anti-vaxxers think, or everybody is forced to get vaccinated and Oak is right, will this EVER end? It will from a scientific standpoint, but what are we suffering as a culture? 2 years is quite a long time for a younger child to feel the fear of masks everywhere and death totals on the tv. The necessity of social congregation. This has sociological consequences. I am not pushing an agenda, just stating the obvious.

One thing I’ll hang onto is social distancing. Don’t like people near me.

[GymnJuice]

This is the reason why people like "OAK" are doing the wrong thing complying as much as possible.  Reduced freedoms forever.    He and others like him are helping governments in reducing freedom to travel, go to public and private places, closing gyms,  shutting down small businesses, spending tax payer money even more excessively than before, and many other things that is making most people's lives less enjoyable / more unpleasant.

THEY CLOSED GYMS but NOT Liquor Stores.     This isn't about Health you naïve, complying useful idiots.   

This fearmonger campaign and the the majority of people who are useful idiots helping it has been very successful for a lot of powerful wealthy people like Bill Gates... So effective that they are gonna keep doing it.    More overhyped or fake pandemics to come.

Liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries were "essential services." 

The gym should be a mandatory service for all these fat idiots making the rules.

[Matt]

THEY CLOSED GYMS but NOT Liquor Stores.     This isn't about Health you naïve, complying useful idiots.

I agree 100% with Getbigger of the Past, Bast on this one!

In Canada, they are now threatening to ban Canadians from liquor stores.

I asked my friends and family members if I should just become a bootlegger now.

The thing is...no unvaccinated person is about to comply here. It's safe to say we've thought this through.

The reasons why I'm not vaccinated are twofold:

[1] I don't get flu shots. I have a strong immune system. I exercise, and only eat while foods.
[2] The pharmaceutical manufacturers of these vaccines are not required to pay for damages in the event of adverse events or even deaths.

So...no thank you.

[Zillotch]

no.

humanity is being erased via genetic modification.

in time... we will not even be able to go back to 'human'.

the entire covid narrative, as presented by the mainstream - is smoke and mirrors – a fuking carnival attraction.

lies r promoted while the truth is covered up.

what is real, and can b counted on - r the actualities of the 'vaccine'.

death (likely in the millions already) and ruinous maiming r only part of the story... all test subjects r newly modified ticking time bombs full of horrific technologies that will forever change humanity - and that is the point of all of this.

to get inside of every human being on earth and alter them into 'other'... to change everyone into patentable property... soulless drones compatible with the new system.

that is reality.

real patents.. real technology - real results.. clear for anyone to see, yet no one cares to know.

[Earl1972]

This is the reason why people like "OAK" are doing the wrong thing complying as much as possible.  Reduced freedoms forever.    He and others like him are helping governments in reducing freedom to travel, go to public and private places, closing gyms,  shutting down small businesses, spending tax payer money even more excessively than before, and many other things that is making most people's lives less enjoyable / more unpleasant.

THEY CLOSED GYMS but NOT Liquor Stores.     This isn't about Health you naïve, complying useful idiots.   

This fearmonger campaign and the the majority of people who are useful idiots helping it has been very successful for a lot of powerful wealthy people like Bill Gates... So effective that they are gonna keep doing it.    More overhyped or fake pandemics to come.

gates already said more pandemics are coming

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[Notomorrow]

Locally, yes.

My biggest worry is international travel, which could be a lot more complicated and time-consuming requiring doing tests 48hours before departure and arrival which is a big hassle, especially if in a foreign country.

Also now having to submit documents online to embassies first and then wait for 'approval', for instance proof of vaccinations, proof of Covid test appoinment and receipt, proof of plane ticket, proof of accommodation which has to be done longer in advance now and could potentially be cancelled, also due to bureaucratic errors/delays.

And also potentially have another test on arrival at a local hospital, the time involved is a wasted day and added stress, failed test could mean 14 days quarantine, destroy your holiday or business trip.

      I hate to think like this but your point is a bit scary, as I lived in Guadalajara, Mexico for 7 years and the government is terribly corrupt. It is possible that "correct" covid paperwork could become quite expensive if organized crime came into play. Improper covid papers and stranded in Mexico unable to come back? At the mercy of Mexican police? I hope and pray it would never get to that.
    This is the only time I can remember that without committing a crime you could be refused entry into your own country. This makes you VERY vulnerable, at least if on Mexican soil. The only thing that gave me any feeling of safety in Mexico was being to get the hell out and come back to the U.S. on moments notice. But if I had to go through some Mexican police or task force I would fear corruption. And the ambiguity of the "right to check vaccine status" gives corrupt police all over the world license to fuck with rich foreigners.

Sorry, I just think like that now. I lived in Mexico for 7 years. I've been violated by those police.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/mexican-arrested-for-not-wearing-face-mask-later-found-dead

[honest]

I can see governments using the mask mandates and social distancing during flu season, I can also see mandates around flu shots being strongly considered, the weakness of modern people through the pandemic is there to be exploited by politicians.

[Tapeworm]

It’s like I wrote that myself.

Now I’m convinced government is ENEMY.

I actively want all the cowards, slaves and we’re-all-in-this-together types to die miserable deaths.

I no longer want to be here.

It's like one long, neverending coup, isn't it?

Hang tough, brother. Whatever path you forge belongs to you. And anyone who said you didn't have to do it the hard way way was trying to sell you something.

[Soul Crusher]

I don't think we will see a "normal" as normal as we had before the advent of COVID. I think we will be trained to adapt to a new "normal" post-COVID world.

Just like after 9/11 we were introduced to the TSA and it revolutionized the way in which we do travel through/from airports (i.e. take off your shoes, belts and empty your pockets before going through an "arms-in-the-air" metal detector) for the greater part of 20+ years, I also think there will be long-term changes that this pandemic will bring about in our way of living. What exactly that will entail, I am not sure. But after these types of events, I typically find that it's our basic freedoms that get chipped away at for the "greater" good.

"1"

i'm so sick of this crappola.   

[beakdoctor]

My dad lived through WWII, watching relatives die in battle, living under rationing of even the simplest food items for years, practicing for air raid drills every week, etc..


This Covid shit is nothing.


And for the record, OAK is never right.

Well WWII was REAL. It really happened.  People really died. The Nazi's and the Japanese were truly evil powers (death camps and death marches) and people were relieved when it was really over.

The Pandemic is something totally different.  Its a bizarre social experiment as much as it is a disease. People are cult-like about it and it has been turned into a political weapon. There are a lot of different reasons that many people don't want it to end.

Beyond masks and mandates and social distancing there's been a shift in people.  This thing has really brought out the worst in people.

[Thin Lizzy]

Not for me. I've permanently lost faith in government, media, and most of modern humanity, and I don't see any avenue for its restoration.

I'm beyond libertarian. I'm done. I just want to be left alone.

For me it was a three strikes and your out thing. First it was Covid then Biden‘s fake campaign and magically getting more votes than anybody. Then Afghanistan is exposed as a complete fraud yet nobody gives a fuck or loses their job. While I don’t hate this country, as I’ve had a good life here, my feeling is one of apathy. I just don’t give a fuck and I don’t care what anybody thinks about it.

[Fortress]

Hang tough, brother. Whatever path you forge belongs to you.

Thank you, friend.

Just know today you helped someone.

[Notomorrow]

     It seems we all recognize that something is dying. Some part of America.  This is the first time I can remember that as a culture we can be pretty sure that these will never be the "good ole days". From the 30's to the 80s, people often look back fondly in some way at the decade.  As American culture, we are at our bottom.  If there is a unified American culture anymore it's on it's last legs. I guess covid just stamped out the last embers.

Now just live for yourself, your family and get what's yours. There are no distinctive features of American culture anymore. Unless they can be properly Googled. I believe I've had enough. I am thoroughly insane, literally, but there's such a freedom in that acknowledgement.

The masks are quite symbolic in a way. In a Shakespearean way.

[Hypertrophy]

Well WWII was REAL. It really happened.  People really died. The Nazi's and the Japanese were truly evil powers (death camps and death marches) and people were relieved when it was really over.

The Pandemic is something totally different.  Its a bizarre social experiment as much as it is a disease. People are cult-like about it and it has been turned into a political weapon. There are a lot of different reasons that many people don't want it to end.

Beyond masks and mandates and social distancing there's been a shift in people.  This thing has really brought out the worst in people.

The supply chain for food is now being threatened. That'll snap the cult members out of it, haha. Once these leftist bitches can't get their sushi and lattes and are forced to fight for scraps of food will be the moment they realize what fucking morons they are.


Or they will starve to death- and that's not bad either.

[kreator]

The supply chain for food is now being threatened. That'll snap the cult members out of it, haha. Once these leftist bitches can't get their sushi beyond burger and lattes and are forced to fight for scraps of food will be the moment they realize what fucking morons they are.


Or they will starve to death- and that's not bad either.

fixed

[Tapeworm]

Thank you, friend.

Just know today you helped someone.

I'm glad to hear it. I guess this is the grind, and I don't know when or if it'll end. But I get to find out what I really value and what I insist on keeping. Most men don't get the chance to do that. Maybe I'm a nut but I'm oddly grateful.

[Thin Lizzy]

     It seems we all recognize that something is dying. Some part of America.  This is the first time I can remember that as a culture we can be pretty sure that these will never be the "good ole days". From the 30's to the 80s, people often look back fondly in some way at the decade.  As American culture, we are at our bottom.  If there is a unified American culture anymore it's on it's last legs. I guess covid just stamped out the last embers.

Now just live for yourself, your family and get what's yours. There are no distinctive features of American culture anymore. Unless they can be properly Googled. I believe I've had enough. I am thoroughly insane, literally, but there's such a freedom in that acknowledgement.

The masks are quite symbolic in a way. In a Shakespearean way.

I believe those of us in our 50s were born at the perfect time: too young for Viet Nam but old enough to see the best of American pop culture and at the same time young enough to take advantage of the tech revolution, yet too old to see the inevitable coming collapse of the country.

[ThisisOverload]

      I hate to think like this but your point is a bit scary, as I lived in Guadalajara, Mexico for 7 years and the government is terribly corrupt. It is possible that "correct" covid paperwork could become quite expensive if organized crime came into play. Improper covid papers and stranded in Mexico unable to come back? At the mercy of Mexican police? I hope and pray it would never get to that.
    This is the only time I can remember that without committing a crime you could be refused entry into your own country. This makes you VERY vulnerable, at least if on Mexican soil. The only thing that gave me any feeling of safety in Mexico was being to get the hell out and come back to the U.S. on moments notice. But if I had to go through some Mexican police or task force I would fear corruption. And the ambiguity of the "right to check vaccine status" gives corrupt police all over the world license to fuck with rich foreigners.

Sorry, I just think like that now. I lived in Mexico for 7 years. I've been violated by those police.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/mexican-arrested-for-not-wearing-face-mask-later-found-dead

I've had several bad dealings with the Policia over the years. Spending a lot of time in Latin America makes you realize how good we have it here and in other nations.

And to think that Mexico is nothing compared to most of Latin America, Africa or Asia. The corruption on this entire planet concerns me.

My GF and i were detained in Chiapas by Policia that were cartel members. The cartels are deeply engrained into the entire network in Mexico.

And the Policia who aren't cartel are worthless and just as corrupt. None of them can be trusted.

The silver lining is if you have money you can buy ANYTHING you want in Latin America. Just as long as you know the right people to deal with.

[deadz]

I believe those of us in our 50s were born at the perfect time: too young for Viet Nam but old enough to see the best of American pop culture and at the same time young enough to take advantage of the tech revolution, yet too old to see the inevitable coming collapse of the country.

👍

[Hypertrophy]

I believe those of us in our 50s were born at the perfect time: too young for Viet Nam but old enough to see the best of American pop culture and at the same time young enough to take advantage of the tech revolution, yet too old to see the inevitable coming collapse of the country.

The 80's were the best Fuck all the noise these days, haha

[Notomorrow]

I believe those of us in our 50s were born at the perfect time: too young for Viet Nam but old enough to see the best of American pop culture and at the same time young enough to take advantage of the tech revolution, yet too old to see the inevitable coming collapse of the country.

This. You nailed it.

[Gym-Rat]

again it was just a test to see the fear in the cowardly
to get compliance
to plan future events
to control, rule commie-style
laughable how many weak/scared douche-bags there are out there

[Super Natural]

Yes!