Russia has penetrated Ukraine

[BigRo]

Ro, you got to keep the hands up.

You're dropping the non-punching hand.

It's a common error when hitting a heavy bag so don't feel bad, just concentrate on keeping the hands up.

Working a heavy bag can instill bad habits if you are not careful.

I,l work on it more thanks.

[falco]

Sadly, Trump is right on Ukraine

"I rarely agree with President Trump, but his latest controversial statements about Ukraine are mostly true. They only seem preposterous because western audiences have been fed a steady diet of disinformation about Ukraine for more than a decade. It is time to set the record straight on three key points that illuminate why Ukrainians and former President Joe Biden — not merely Russian President Vladimir Putin — bear significant responsibility for the outbreak and perpetuation of war in Ukraine.

First, as recently documented by overwhelming forensic evidence, and affirmed even by a Kyiv court, it was Ukrainian right-wing militants who started the violence in 2014 that provoked Russia’s initial invasion of the country’s southeast including Crimea. Back then, Ukraine had a pro-Russia president, Viktor Yanukovych, who had won free and fair elections in 2010 with strong support from ethnic Russians in the country’s southeast.

Second, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky contributed to a wider war by violating peace deals with Russia and seeking NATO military aid and membership. The deals, known as Minsk 1 and 2, had been negotiated under his predecessor President Petro Poroshenko in 2014 and 2015 to end fighting in the southeast and protect endangered troops.

Third, Joe Biden too contributed crucially to the escalation and perpetuation of fighting. In late 2021, when Putin mobilized forces on Ukraine’s border and demanded implementation of the Minsk deals, it seemed obvious that unless Zelensky relented, Russia would invade to at least form a land bridge between Donbas and Crimea.

Even more tragic, whatever peace deal emerges after the war will be worse for Ukraine than the Minsk accords that Zelensky foolishly abandoned due to his political ambitions and naïve expectation of bottomless U.S. support."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-sadly-trump-ukraine-200000471.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

The first news were of complete destruction of non military targets. The american Gonzalo Lira, living in Ukrain, was denouncing it to be lies, on youtube.  Zelensky made sure he got killed in jail, 3 days after being arrested.

[Van_Bilderass]

What is the truth about the supposed neonazis in Ukraine?

All the "experts" I follow talk about them as a fact but all the MSM sources say they aren't there and laugh about Putin's supposed denazification as ridiculous propaganda. I think BigRo too. Are the Nazis there like the supposed Nazis in the US where anyone is Nazi who doesn't like immigration? The one's I follow say the Nazis/extreme right wing nationalists/ banderites are a powerful block in the Ukraine government. Just yesterday some American journalist in Kursk, a former US marine, was saying Ukrainian soldiers left Nazi slogans on walls in Kursk, "1488" and such. Propaganda?

I also seem to recall reading that Navalny was a right wing extremist with Nazi or fascist leanings, by the left's standards if he had been in the west, but he was the west's darling because he was against Putin? I think Putin is very much against nationalism, depending on how you define it I guess?

I haven't seen any good articles showing how numerous these supposed Nazi's in the army and government are. Sach's and such are talking about them as if they are for real and might kill Zelensky as he offers concessions to Russia wrt to land or whatever.

[joswift]

What is the truth about the supposed neonazis in Ukraine?

All the "experts" I follow talk about them as a fact but all the MSM sources say they aren't there and laugh about Putin's supposed denazification as ridiculous propaganda. I think BigRo too. Are the Nazis there like the supposed Nazis in the US where anyone is Nazi who doesn't like immigration? The one's I follow say the Nazis/extreme right wing nationalists/ banderites are a powerful block in the Ukraine government. Just yesterday some American journalist in Kursk, a former US marine, was saying Ukrainian soldiers left Nazi slogans on walls in Kursk, "1488" and such. Propaganda?

I also seem to recall reading that Navalny was a right wing extremist with Nazi or fascist leanings, by the left's standards if he had been in the west, but he was the west's darling because he was against Putin? I think Putin is very much against nationalism, depending on how you define it I guess?

I haven't seen any good articles showing how numerous these supposed Nazi's in the army and government are. Sach's and such are talking about them as if they are for real and might kill Zelensky as he offers concessions to Russia wrt to land or whatever.

you have to go back to 2014 when the Western mainstream media didnt have the current narrative
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30414955

[chaos]

Show me how it's done then ya baldy hur.

We talked about this. Good for cardio, bad for actual fights.

[Van_Bilderass]

you have to go back to 2014 when the Western mainstream media didnt have the current narrative
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30414955

Thanks. The BCC was warning of them there, though that seemed to disappear after the invasion. The article does say they are few and that most Ukranians aren't informed. I remember around the invasion time there were pics posted of the Azov batallion wearing the Wolfsangel badge on their uniforms and a little later it was switched to something else, obviously because the associations were negative PR. Of course in war time those accusations are brushed away as unimportant or said to be Russian propaganda, as long as they are fighting on the right side (like Israel building and supporting antisemitic Islamist terror groups). But I would like to know how much power they have now because the American "Russophiles" (analysts with a backround in US intelligence services) say the government is full of them and "they are sitting on a lot of weapons" and have Zelensky scared for his life. Even just nationalism without the racism or antisemitism is seen as evil in the west, US and Europe. Nationalist in the US equals white supremacist, no matter how much they protest otherwise.

[Flexacon]

Ro i would beat your head like a speedball 

Let's keep it real.

No one other than an elite fighter is gonna try pick a fight with someone the size of Ro.

But also these videos are pretty cringe. There is no denying there is some serious force behind those punches, but the lack of coordination is pretty embarrassing.

[BigRo]

We talked about this. Good for cardio, bad for actual fights.

Not at all. Your not being objective.

[BigRo]

Let's keep it real.

No one other than an elite fighter is gonna try pick a fight with someone the size of Ro.

But also these videos are pretty cringe. There is no denying there is some serious force behind those punches, but the lack of coordination is pretty embarrassing.

I don't have a lack of coordination, I am not there to dance and move like an elite boxer around the bag, I have a few tools and I concentrated on clean strikes with some decent speed at times. Rather than cringe like a wanker show me your superior movement.

[Donny]

We talked about this. Good for cardio, bad for actual fights.

l think he´s always got away with it due to his size but any decent fighter half his size would beat him like an egg 

[BigRo]

l think he´s always got away with it due to his size but any decent fighter half his size would beat him like an egg 

all talk, I,m ready to rumble. And I don't even think "I am big so I am tough", I am a wild and fierce man of God plugged in to a deeper power, I,m ready.

[Donny]

all talk, I,m ready to rumble. And I don't even think "I am big so I am tough", I am a wild and fierce man of God plugged in to a deeper power, I,m ready.

Ro ...those Mushrooms are wild 

[BigRo]

Ro ...those Mushrooms are wild 

yes a few mushrooms prior.

[Donny]

yes a few mushrooms prior.

I remember giving a guy some in a busy bar in Scotland, he´d never tried them before.
If i´m honest i never liked him so i saw it as an experiment...went off his nut in the busy bar
He was a big guy & joined a well known 1% MC in the UK but what they didn´t know was he was a grass
He was big as i wrote & a bully but came unstuck one day when a mate battered lumps out of him.
He went to the cops & grassed the guy up.. was before he joined the MC but still a big fucking pussy boy... 

[Donny]

Not that i think you´re a Big Fucking Pussy Boy Ro...

[BigRo]

Sounds like he deserved a beating.

[Donny]

Sounds like he deserved a beating.

he wrote to me some years ago when on Facebook & i asked him if he was still in the MC...he wrote "you have to ask me to my face" 
wrote fuck off ya fanny ... he´s still a Tool

[IroNat]

Thanks. The BCC was warning of them there, though that seemed to disappear after the invasion. The article does say they are few and that most Ukranians aren't informed. I remember around the invasion time there were pics posted of the Azov batallion wearing the Wolfsangel badge on their uniforms and a little later it was switched to something else, obviously because the associations were negative PR. Of course in war time those accusations are brushed away as unimportant or said to be Russian propaganda, as long as they are fighting on the right side (like Israel building and supporting antisemitic Islamist terror groups). But I would like to know how much power they have now because the American "Russophiles" (analysts with a backround in US intelligence services) say the government is full of them and "they are sitting on a lot of weapons" and have Zelensky scared for his life. Even just nationalism without the racism or antisemitism is seen as evil in the west, US and Europe. Nationalist in the US equals white supremacist, no matter how much they protest otherwise.

The ultra-nationalists are very strong in western Ukraine.

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'Banderite' Rebrand: Ukrainian Police Declare Admiration For Nazi Collaborators To Make A Point

https://www.rferl.org/a/banderite-rebrand-ukrainian-police-declare-admiration-for-nazi-collaborators-to-make-a-point/29764110.html

RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH: The Alliance Of MI6, The CIA & The Banderites

https://rielpolitik.com/2022/04/17/rise-of-the-fourth-reich-the-alliance-of-mi6-the-cia-the-banderites-by-thierry-meyssan/

The CIA and the Banderite Nazis

https://euroyankee.substack.com/p/the-cia-and-the-banderite-nazis

[Van_Bilderass]

The ultra-nationalists are very strong in western Ukraine.

Thanks. I wouldn't doubt you but I don't know personally... A common comeback is, "well, Zelensky is a Jew so they aren't Nazis" but some say it doesn't matter to them, at least right now. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but there's still some hipocrisy involved because these elements and connections wouldn't be tolerated in our countries

[IroNat]

From 2022...

A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War

https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

[Van_Bilderass]

"Insane." Biden admin calculated a 5-10% chance of nuclear war, according to NYT! Complete insanity to take that sort of risk, imho. They also calculated a 50% risk if Russia crossed the dniepr if I heard right!, but Russia foresaw the risk according to these analysts, and retreated.

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NYT admits the Ukraine war is a coalition war, US generals directed the war from Wiesbaden. Not about defending Ukraine, about destroying Russia militarily. Even before Russian invasion the USA had plans to goad Russia into war in Ukraine where Russia would be defeated and there would be regime change in Russia. Trump knows the war is lost. The US lost. The NYT blames Ukraine for not following the US plan but that is disingenuous. Russia could in theory say the US is at war with Russia outright but they are restrained for obvious reasons.

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Now Trump is very pissed at Putin, he said it, so who knows how this develops. Trump's plan apparently has been to solve the conflict via a ceasefire, and then claim some sort of success while pulling out, but Russia has said all along that they aren't satisfied with merely a ceasefire. Trump obviously doesn't want to say Russia completely won so of course the businessman is pissed...

I didn't watch all of this because it's so technical and long, but a US expert on missiles and nuclear weapons explains how a nuclear exchange develops when war gamed. Disgusting weapons.

[B_B_C]

What effect would a total collapse of Ukraine and capitulation to Russia in in the next year or so have on the Trump Presidency ?

https://www.counteroffensive.news/p/scoop-trump-envoys-conflict-of-interest

Witkoffhas business ties to Leonard (‘Len’) Blavatnik, an influential businessman with significant relationships in Kremlin circles—[who] was sanctioned by Ukraine in 2023. . . . Witkoff’s connections to Blavatnik raise an important question: Can someone genuinely serve as a fair-minded peace negotiator when a business partner has ties to Russian oligarchs?

[Kwon]

I don't have a lack of coordination, I am not there to dance and move like an elite boxer around the bag, I have a few tools and I concentrated on clean strikes with some decent speed at times. Rather than cringe like a wanker show me your superior movement.

[Donny]

Oldie but Goldie 

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[Donny]

Don't visit Russia 

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