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Donny

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6575 on: April 27, 2025, 06:09:12 AM »
Disrespect the cops & this happens
Probably much worse off camera
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6576 on: April 27, 2025, 01:36:24 PM »
"Maybe Putin doesn't want to stop the war," says Trump. What is this clownery. Barring some black swan event, Russia won, US and Trump lost. Trump is looking like an absolute moron right now, now he's trying to figure out how to save face after promising to end the war in a day, even before he was inaugurated, over 50 times he said it publicly. What does he say now? "I was only joking." :D

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6577 on: April 27, 2025, 03:05:57 PM »
Not at all. Your not being objective.
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I am being objective. Your striking is slow, your angles are weak, your shots do not land correctly. It's ok, you don't need to be offended. You're a bber, not a boxer. Relax.
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6578 on: April 27, 2025, 05:39:17 PM »
*You're
I am being objective. Your striking is slow, your angles are weak, your shots do not land correctly. It's ok, you don't need to be offended. You're a bber, not a boxer. Relax.

Your just being a prick. Imagine if in a street fight I recalled all the bullshit said here, do you think it would help? I am completely uninhibited from all this nonsense. Josh posts a shabby little clip and gets smoke blown, it's ridiculous, you post a video and show me your superiority or is it just your mouth?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6579 on: April 27, 2025, 09:39:28 PM »

Donny

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6580 on: April 27, 2025, 10:27:39 PM »
Ro on the bag  :D

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6581 on: April 28, 2025, 05:33:31 AM »



They’re going to have to give up crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk for sure.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6582 on: April 28, 2025, 11:31:36 AM »

They’re going to have to give up crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk for sure.

I'll preface this again by saying that I don't think it's right for one country to invade another etc. (Otherwise people get upset).

But, if I were in Putin's shoes I wouldn't give up any territory. He doesn't seem to be losing much by keeping the land he's conquered already and continuing the status quo. The West is hemorrhaging money just to keep Ukraine alive. We exchange expensive drones, missiles, and Ukranian and western lives for Russian, Chechen, and North Korean lives. I think the stalemate favors him.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6583 on: April 28, 2025, 06:03:03 PM »
I'll preface this again by saying that I don't think it's right for one country to invade another etc. (Otherwise people get upset).

But, if I were in Putin's shoes I wouldn't give up any territory. He doesn't seem to be losing much by keeping the land he's conquered already and continuing the status quo. The West is hemorrhaging money just to keep Ukraine alive. We exchange expensive drones, missiles, and Ukranian and western lives for Russian, Chechen, and North Korean lives. I think the stalemate favors him.


I won’t disagree with anything you’ve posted.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6584 on: April 28, 2025, 06:05:22 PM »
Your just being a prick.
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I am being objective. Your striking is slow, your angles are weak, your shots do not land correctly. It's ok, you don't need to be offended. You're a bber, not a boxer. Relax.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6585 on: April 29, 2025, 03:30:37 PM »
I'll preface this again by saying that I don't think it's right for one country to invade another etc. (Otherwise people get upset).

But, if I were in Putin's shoes I wouldn't give up any territory. He doesn't seem to be losing much by keeping the land he's conquered already and continuing the status quo. The West is hemorrhaging money just to keep Ukraine alive. We exchange expensive drones, missiles, and Ukranian and western lives for Russian, Chechen, and North Korean lives. I think the stalemate favors him.

I'm not an expert or an insider, just a YT watcher and article reader, but to me Putin has said all along what Russia demands, and although one republican senator just said Putin reneges on all his promises... I don't really see where that's the case.

Now from what I hear and read Trump's team is presenting Putin with Kellog's plan, and it doesn't address the "root causes" Putin keeps talking about, there's no way that is even close to being acceptable to Putin/Russia; one way to interpret this is that Trump's team doesn't even expect Putin to accept those terms and this is all done in bad faith, they know it's a fail.

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Witkoff flies to Moscow this week to present this ‘pig’s ear’ of a plan to Putin – seeking his consent. The Europeans and Ukrainians are set to meet next Wednesday in London to give their riposte to Trump.

What’s next? Most obviously, the Kellogg Plan will not ‘fly’. Russia will not accept it, and likely Zelensky will not either, (though the Europeans will work to persuade him – hoping to ‘wrong-foot Moscow’ by presenting Russia as the essential ‘spoiler’). Reportedly, Zelensky already has rejected the Crimea provision.

Is Trump really going to wash his hands of Ukraine? Doubtful, given that the U.S. neo-conservative institutional leadership will tell Trump that to do so, would weaken America’s ‘peace through strength’ narrative. Trump may adopt supporting Ukraine ‘on a low flame’ posture, whilst declaring the ‘war was never his’ – as he seeks a ‘win’ on the business front with Russia.

Gotta get a fake "win" somehow...

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6586 on: April 29, 2025, 04:05:52 PM »
I'll preface this again by saying that I don't think it's right for one country to invade another etc. (Otherwise people get upset).


I think it's right to invade, if you are able to hold it and keep it.

Think about this:

WHat would India look like today without the British ever entering it?

Brazil without the Portuguese?

America and Canada without the British, French etc?

Whole North America would just be a bunch of Injun Tribes , Apaches, Sioux etc


Let´s say the Rest of the World (The European Countries mostly) never even cared about North or South America, Africa  or Asia.

Lets rewind to 500 AD




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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6587 on: April 30, 2025, 08:17:56 AM »
^^^ Good point above. Also, that booty needs invaded.