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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6725 on: July 09, 2025, 01:18:17 AM »
I've said bout 80 goddamn times that NATO, er the pukesa who is NATO caused this conflict

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6726 on: July 09, 2025, 03:28:09 AM »
Just tuned in and within 3 fucking minutes he said

"It started with NATO expanding to the east"

Just like I already said a gazillion times

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6727 on: July 09, 2025, 06:41:45 AM »
Question is what can he send even if he wants to. Like Rubio said months ago, "frankly we can't send them because we don't have them." Plus now Israel needs everything the US can scrape together too and is first priority. Trump gave every indication he was he was tired of the Ukraine debacle and wanted to pivot elsewhere. WTH happened? My guess is his ego just can't take losing to Putin, he thought his magnificent persona would make an easy deal with Putin. Putin has politely even refused to meet with him until further progress on any deal. "Nothing will happen until I meet with Putin" he said, but Putin refuses to, what blow to his ego.


This is what it is. I’m on vacation and just picked up the local paper and read the blurb about Trump sending weapons, defensive ones 🙄, and thought “man this dude just can’t take anyone not caving to his will”. He’s becoming a disappointment.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6728 on: July 09, 2025, 06:54:01 AM »

This is what it is. I’m on vacation and just picked up the local paper and read the blurb about Trump sending weapons, defensive ones 🙄, and thought “man this dude just can’t take anyone not caving to his will”. He’s becoming a disappointment.
hahaha defensive weapons?
What are they, stab vests

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6729 on: July 09, 2025, 08:46:27 AM »
Given Trump's emotionality and personality, can you imagine how pissed he must be getting that Putin does not back down to him lol. He must be raging so hard!  ;D ;D

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/09/trump-russia-putin-china.html

Trump threatened to ‘bomb the s--- out’ of Moscow to deter Putin: CNN

    President Donald Trump claimed he told Russian President Vladimir Putin that if he goes “into Ukraine, I’m going to bomb the sh-- out of Moscow,” according to audio obtained by CNN.
    Trump reportedly issued a similar warning to Chinese President Xi Jinping, who largely dismissed Trump’s comments.
    Trump has taken a more critical tone with Putin since he’s returned to the White House, including this week when he said he was “not happy” with the Russian leader.


Putin Escalates His War Against Ukraine, Undeterred by Trump’s Words
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6730 on: July 09, 2025, 08:59:17 AM »

Trump threatened to ‘bomb the s--- out’ of Moscow to deter Putin





can we expect a complete obliteration?
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6731 on: July 09, 2025, 09:04:33 AM »
I can confirm it bout chump bombing the shit outta the scow, as he sent me a heads up to get the hell outta the scow

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6732 on: July 09, 2025, 02:05:44 PM »
Given Trump's emotionality and personality, can you imagine how pissed he must be getting that Putin does not back down to him lol. He must be raging so hard!  ;D ;D

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/09/trump-russia-putin-china.html

Trump threatened to ‘bomb the s--- out’ of Moscow to deter Putin: CNN

    President Donald Trump claimed he told Russian President Vladimir Putin that if he goes “into Ukraine, I’m going to bomb the sh-- out of Moscow,” according to audio obtained by CNN.
    Trump reportedly issued a similar warning to Chinese President Xi Jinping, who largely dismissed Trump’s comments.
    Trump has taken a more critical tone with Putin since he’s returned to the White House, including this week when he said he was “not happy” with the Russian leader.


Putin Escalates His War Against Ukraine, Undeterred by Trump’s Words

He said that back in his first term not now.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6733 on: July 09, 2025, 02:06:25 PM »
I can confirm it bout chump bombing the shit outta the scow, as he sent me a heads up to get the hell outta the scow

Is Putin your dad?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6734 on: July 09, 2025, 02:21:10 PM »
Is Putin your dad?
Would you be surprised to learn that dj181 doesn't know his dad?
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6735 on: July 09, 2025, 03:06:49 PM »
Would you be surprised to learn that dj181 doesn't know his dad?
dj181 and Brian, boith raised by single moms

Never...

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6736 on: July 15, 2025, 07:46:00 AM »
Is it true that Russia has been bombing women and children in Ukraine?

If yes they need to fuckofff with that horrible shit

DO NOT HARM WOMEN AND CHILDREN YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6737 on: July 15, 2025, 08:24:49 AM »
About the 50 day ultimatum and then come the bone crushing sanctions. It's embarrassing. Everyone should know Putin will not budge one inch, then Trump won't apply the sanctions package after all (notice he said he's considering it). If he's so fed up, go ahead and slap on the tariffs and sanctions right now, but he won't. And as for the weapons he's going to sell to the EU, well, there aren't any to sell. He talked about sending 10 missiles, not systems or batteries, which will be used in 2 minutes in one missile attack, laughable. He just keeps setting himself up for failure after failure, it's amazing to see.


Trump threatened to ‘bomb the s--- out’ of Moscow to deter Putin: CNN

Trump reportedly issued a similar warning to Chinese President Xi Jinping, who largely dismissed Trump’s comments.
 

Obviously he said no such thing to Putin nor Xi. Another complete embarrassment.

Listen to this banger:

Repeatedly this week, Trump has suggested he never really trusted Putin.

“He’s fooled a lot of people,” Trump said Monday at the White House, adding: “He fooled Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden. He didn’t fool me.”


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6738 on: July 15, 2025, 02:37:58 PM »
Donald is overplaying his hand here the sooner he realises he cannot beat China and Russia in a conventional war the better, its not that he can't its that his people will vote him out the moment they start taking casualties whilst China and Russia dont have that problem. In the end it will be democracy that brings down the west, lets face it its doing a good job without a war.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6739 on: July 15, 2025, 02:39:44 PM »
Donald is overplaying his hand here the sooner he realises he cannot beat China and Russia in a conventional war the better, its not that he can't its that his people will vote him out the moment they start taking casualties whilst China and Russia dont have that problem. In the end it will be democracy that brings down the west, lets face it its doing a good job without a war.
pretty sure you cant hold an election in a time of war...

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6740 on: July 15, 2025, 02:39:52 PM »
Biden got us into this Ukraine mess for years and now it's Trumps fault we aren't out of it yet.
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6741 on: July 15, 2025, 05:13:02 PM »
Biden got us into this Ukraine mess for years and now it's Trumps fault we aren't out of it yet.

If you don't mind me always being contrarian :P, under Trump's first term the CIA built 20 bases in Ukraine, and never mind all the biological warfare labs, the bases obviously to counter Russia. Trump ridiculed Obama and said "Obama sent blankets, I sent missiles." Obviously this was before the invasion but the designs towards Russia have been there for decades. You could say Trump was one of the designers of what we have now. It's pretty ridiculous he blames it all on Biden, and now he could have just cut them off like he said he would, but obviously didn't. Now he's completely embarrassing himself and promising things that will never happen. There are no weapons to give, for example the US has only 25% of the Patriot missiles it feels it needs for itself. Now the rumors are that he's considering sending Tomahawk missiles, but those are nuclear capable, the Russians will never accept it. Some US think thank analysts, was it Axios or Politico or some other, I forgot, claim Putin just told Trump the war will be all but over in 2 months, so he won't have to send anything or impose sanctions. I don't believe that at all, Putin would never trust Trump with that kind of info, just saying what they are reporting...

In case someone might find interesting, what I found interesting, regarding casualty figures and how they count them...

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/rubio-claims-russia-suffered-100k

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6742 on: July 15, 2025, 06:19:36 PM »
Trump just gave Putin a 50 day window to crush Ukraine.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6743 on: July 15, 2025, 06:26:40 PM »
If you don't mind me always being contrarian :P, under Trump's first term the CIA built 20 bases in Ukraine, and never mind all the biological warfare labs, the bases obviously to counter Russia. Trump ridiculed Obama and said "Obama sent blankets, I sent missiles." Obviously this was before the invasion but the designs towards Russia have been there for decades. You could say Trump was one of the designers of what we have now. It's pretty ridiculous he blames it all on Biden, and now he could have just cut them off like he said he would, but obviously didn't. Now he's completely embarrassing himself and promising things that will never happen. There are no weapons to give, for example the US has only 25% of the Patriot missiles it feels it needs for itself. Now the rumors are that he's considering sending Tomahawk missiles, but those are nuclear capable, the Russians will never accept it. Some US think thank analysts, was it Axios or Politico or some other, I forgot, claim Putin just told Trump the war will be all but over in 2 months, so he won't have to send anything or impose sanctions. I don't believe that at all, Putin would never trust Trump with that kind of info, just saying what they are reporting...

In case someone might find interesting, what I found interesting, regarding casualty figures and how they count them...

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/rubio-claims-russia-suffered-100k
If you think or believe that the US is low on any missiles, I've got a plot of land on Mars to sell you.
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6744 on: July 15, 2025, 07:42:19 PM »
If you think or believe that the US is low on any missiles, I've got a plot of land on Mars to sell you.

What do you base your assertion on? There have been many official government papers issued on these issues. A few months ago Rubio said to congress that "Ukraine can't get any missiles... because we have none to give." How come Ukraine had to give some Patriot batteries to Israel recently? How come the US is asking the EU to give their US missiles to Ukraine? How come Trump said they will send 10 stinking Patriot interceptors to Ukraine, you can barely shoot down 3 ballistic missiles with that. I won't bother to cite the papers, but they show how many of each missile they can produce each year and what their goals are for 2025 and 2027 and so on. The Patriots are at about 400 per year. You need 2-4 to try to shoot down ONE Russian ballistic missile, do the math. Or do you suppose there are secret industrial bases in the US and secret trained workers there? The US had about 20 of the monster bunker busters but used up about 60% of them on Iran in a few minutes and they take years to build. Even if all the money was there, the workers were there, the factories aren't, it all takes years to set up. It's well known Russia makes like 3 times as many missiles as the US and the next ten countries combined. Tanks are many, many times over that of the US and so on. Besides, the Iran-Israel war showed the Patriot, THAAD and whatever else was used didn't stop Israel from taking major damage, and Iran didn't even use its most advanced missiles. Trump had to scream "PEACE! God bless Iran!" because Israel was out of interceptors.

Me thinks you're talking outta your ass, or have listened to congress who seem to think it's just about how much money to allocate, weapons are infinite. I need more than this chaos, I could be wrong, but give me something ;) :D


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6745 on: July 15, 2025, 10:00:08 PM »
pretty sure you cant hold an election in a time of war...

Do you honestly think it would get to a declaration of war in modern times.  Not even Russia are in a war, not that they are democratic its a special military operation. Declaration of war on a US NATO Russia china scale there will be no need for elections nuclear escalation would be almost certain. There will just be more proxy wars.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6746 on: July 15, 2025, 10:14:44 PM »
Do you honestly think it would get to a declaration of war in modern times.  Not even Russia are in a war, not that they are democratic its a special military operation. Declaration of war on a US NATO Russia china scale there will be no need for elections nuclear escalation would be almost certain. There will just be more proxy wars.

I dont think so, the only reason the bombs were dropped on Japan was because there was no fear of a retaliation.

Nuclear war now would signal the end of civilisation and there are no winners there, only losers.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6747 on: July 16, 2025, 01:16:57 PM »
China have already defeated the US in two proxy wars they could have won given the weapons they possess in both Korea and Vietnam. In both cases it was the US population and elected government that surrendered. China and both Russia knows all you have to do with the US and NATO democracies less so post world war 2 is just keep them in the fight their elected populations will do the rest for you, This is also a test for Russia can they keep selling their energy to fund their war, but China has a huge need for it and they have decades of supply if not centuries counting untapped resources.

China will play the long game, their investment in their armed forces is designed to weaken the west economically as they will try to keep up , they know and understand the west is morally and productively bankrupt keeping up will ruin them economically there is no need for war. Pure Sun Tzu or the art of war. Xi already fired another warning shot when he started dumping US bonds a few months back, doest help when the country you want to have a trade war is the biggest holder of US debt, ultimately they can counter any tariff by pressuring interest rates through their bond holdings.

Economically strengthening China over the last 3 decades will ultimately prove to be the biggest own goal in the history of the US in time, it was madness to think that you would grow a non democratic country that was simply converting their new found wealth to military strength so openly. Absolute madness but consistent with those invested in government for personal benefit.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6748 on: July 16, 2025, 01:48:50 PM »
Do you honestly think it would get to a declaration of war in modern times.  Not even Russia are in a war, not that they are democratic its a special military operation. Declaration of war on a US NATO Russia china scale there will be no need for elections nuclear escalation would be almost certain. There will just be more proxy wars.

Russia started a full scale war in 2022. Call a war a war.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6749 on: July 16, 2025, 01:51:36 PM »
Russia started a full scale war in 2022. Call a war a war.

Not a full scale war by any stretch of the imagination.