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I guess Putin thinks it's less humiliating to say that his lead warship in Ukraine caught on fire rather than admit it was hit by a Ukranian missile. 

What does that say about the incompetence of the Russian navy?

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KYIV/LVIV, Ukraine, April 14 (Reuters) - Russia said its lead warship in the Black Sea sank on Thursday after an explosion and fire that Ukraine claimed was caused by a missile strike, dealing a blow to Moscow as it readied for new attacks that were likely to determine the conflict's outcome.

The Moskva, Russia's flagship in its Black Sea fleet, sank as it was being towed to port in stormy weather, Russian news agencies quoted the defence ministry as saying.

Russia said earlier that over 500 crew aboard the Soviet-era missile cruiser were evacuated after ammunition on board exploded. Ukraine said it hit the warship with a Ukrainian-made Neptune anti-ship missile.

Russia, which has not acknowledged an attack, said the incident is under investigation. Reuters was unable to verify any of the statements, including whether the ship had sunk.

"While the cruiser 'Moskva' was being towed to the destination port, the ship lost stability due to damage to the hull from the fire," the defence ministry said


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Russia reports onboard explosion, says crew evacuated
Kremlin does not acknowledge Ukraine strike
Moscow masses troops in Moldova and Transdniestria, Ukraine says
KYIV/LVIV, Ukraine, April 14 (Reuters) - Russia said its lead warship in the Black Sea sank on Thursday after an explosion and fire that Ukraine claimed was caused by a missile strike, dealing a blow to Moscow as it readied for new attacks that were likely to determine the conflict's outcome.

The Moskva, Russia's flagship in its Black Sea fleet, sank as it was being towed to port in stormy weather, Russian news agencies quoted the defence ministry as saying.


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Russia said earlier that over 500 crew aboard the Soviet-era missile cruiser were evacuated after ammunition on board exploded. Ukraine said it hit the warship with a Ukrainian-made Neptune anti-ship missile.

Russia, which has not acknowledged an attack, said the incident is under investigation. Reuters was unable to verify any of the statements, including whether the ship had sunk.

"While the cruiser 'Moskva' was being towed to the destination port, the ship lost stability due to damage to the hull from the fire," the defence ministry said.


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"In the stormy sea conditions, the ship sank," it said.

The incident came as Russia's navy continues its bombardment of Ukrainian cities on the Black Sea nearly 50 days after it launched the invasion. Residents of Odesa and Mariupol, on the adjacent Azov Sea, have been bracing for new Russian attacks.

The United States said it did not have enough information to determine whether the Moskva was hit by a missile.

"(But) certainly, the way this unfolded, it's a big blow to Russia," said national security adviser Jake Sullivan.

Russian forces have pulled back from some northern parts of Ukraine after suffering heavy losses and failing to take the capital Kyiv. Ukraine and its Western allies say Moscow is redeploying for a new offensive in the eastern Donbas region.

Russia launched its assault in part to dissuade Ukraine from joining NATO. But the invasion has pushed Finland, which shares a long border with Russia, and nearby Sweden to consider joining the U.S.-led military alliance.

Moscow warned NATO on Thursday that if Sweden and Finland join, Russia would deploy nuclear weapons and hypersonic missiles in a Russian enclave on the Baltic Sea, in the heart of Europe.

Commenting on Russia's military setbacks, CIA Director Williams Burns said the threat of Russia potentially using nuclear weapons in Ukraine cannot be taken lightly, but that the agency has not seen much practical evidence reinforcing that concern.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-flagship-black-sea-fleet-badly-damaged-by-blast-2022-04-14/

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2022, 03:52:14 PM »
Boom!  Fuck Putin.  That commie bastard.

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2022, 04:42:37 PM »
Jewish Space Laser at work here. 

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2022, 06:09:16 PM »
I don’t think they have a competent armed forces, but what they lack in tactic they make up with it in cannon fodder. I believe they’ll still win even with all of their blunders.

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2022, 11:00:04 AM »
I don’t think they have a competent armed forces, but what they lack in tactic they make up with it in cannon fodder. I believe they’ll still win even with all of their blunders.

I agree.

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2022, 03:26:00 PM »
Apparently the Moskva was the ship that the Ukrainian soldiers told to fuck off

Ukraine even made a stamp to commemorate it

LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_warship,_go_fuck_yourself_(stamp)

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220415-russian-warship-stamp-becomes-collector-s-item-in-ukraine

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2022, 03:30:10 PM »
I don’t think they have a competent armed forces, but what they lack in tactic they make up with it in cannon fodder. I believe they’ll still win even with all of their blunders.

what does a "win" look like
they've never be able to occupy the entire country


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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2022, 03:32:57 PM »
Getbiggers - take note who's rooting for Ukraine. All the Trump hating, American hating traitors. Now you know why Team Vlad / Putin is the only way to go!

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2022, 03:52:14 PM »
Getbiggers - take note who's rooting for Ukraine. All the Trump hating, American hating traitors. Now you know why Team Vlad / Putin is the only way to go!

^communist^

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2022, 04:01:04 PM »
Getbiggers - take note who's rooting for Ukraine. All the Trump hating, American hating traitors Loving Patriots. Now you know why Team Vlad / Putin is the only way to go!

I fixed your mistake comrade

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2022, 06:11:19 AM »
Getbiggers - take note who's rooting for Ukraine. All the Trump hating, American hating traitors. Now you know why Team Vlad / Putin is the only way to go!

Putin is getting beat just as bad as his little lap down Trumpy was.  Take note.

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2022, 09:17:47 AM »
what does a "win" look like
they've never be able to occupy the entire country

I would say what I believe Russia will get, which is recognition of Crimea being part of Russia and the two separatist regions in Donbas becoming Russian vassals. That would be a win for them, no matter how many more soldiers lives they lose than Ukraine. Russian czars/dictators have never really cared about their people.

Putin is getting beat just as bad as his little lap down Trumpy was.  Take note.


While they may be taking a beating numbers wise on the battlefield, all they have to do is lane the knockout blow and they win. We’ll see :-/

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2022, 11:09:13 AM »
I would say what I believe Russia will get, which is recognition of Crimea being part of Russia and the two separatist regions in Donbas becoming Russian vassals. That would be a win for them, no matter how many more soldiers lives they lose than Ukraine. Russian czars/dictators have never really cared about their people.


While they may be taking a beating numbers wise on the battlefield, all they have to do is lane the knockout blow and they win. We’ll see :-/

and what is the "knockout" blow

also no matter what happens (unless Putin is ousted) the sanctions won't go away and Russia/Putin will be a pariah and Russia's economy will get crushed and will become another North Korea

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2022, 11:43:25 AM »
It didn’t sink.
The ship is currently on an special underwater mission.

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2022, 12:04:48 PM »
It didn’t sink.
The ship is currently on an special underwater mission.

LOL

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2022, 12:30:16 PM »
and what is the "knockout" blow

also no matter what happens (unless Putin is ousted) the sanctions won't go away and Russia/Putin will be a pariah and Russia's economy will get crushed and will become another North Korea

Force Ukraine to capitulate by brute force whether it be bombing cities, beating their armed forces, or starving their supply lines.

I agree, Putin is a pariah on the world stage already. But, unless he is overthrown by his people or generals, why would he care? He’s living like a modern day Czar and dudes like this don’t ever think the ride is going to end.

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2022, 12:43:01 PM »
Force Ukraine to capitulate by brute force whether it be bombing cities, beating their armed forces, or starving their supply lines.

I agree, Putin is a pariah on the world stage already. But, unless he is overthrown by his people or generals, why would he care? He’s living like a modern day Czar and dudes like this don’t ever think the ride is going to end.

you forgot to mention destroying apartment buildings, maternity hospitals, schools, etc.. and mass murdering civilians

that's mostly what they are doing

Ukrainians are never going to give up and allow themselves to be occupied




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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2022, 01:21:09 PM »
you forgot to mention destroying apartment buildings, maternity hospitals, schools, etc.. and mass murdering civilians

that's mostly what they are doing

Ukrainians are never going to give up and allow themselves to be occupied

Let’s hope so. It’s good to hear things come out of Ukraine where even though they are outmatched, they stand strong against the aggressor. I just don’t think Putin gives up without military intervention from outside of Ukraine. He can ride out the sanctions because his lifestyle wont change.

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2022, 03:08:30 PM »
It didn’t sink.
The ship is currently on an special underwater mission.


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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2022, 03:12:18 AM »
you forgot to mention destroying apartment buildings, maternity hospitals, schools, etc.. and mass murdering civilians

that's mostly what they are doing

Ukrainians are never going to give up and allow themselves to be occupied

Why don't you,OAK,Prime,Sean Penn & other suckers travel to Kyiv & sort out those Russians ............ :D

Really, didn't Germans & Russians occupied them for a while .............. ;D

OBW, congratulation to Mr.Putin for another victory (Mariupol) , Volodymyr must be craying on CNN all day long ................. ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2022, 12:23:08 PM »
and what is the "knockout" blow

also no matter what happens (unless Putin is ousted) the sanctions won't go away and Russia/Putin will be a pariah and Russia's economy will get crushed and will become another North Korea

Oh no....  Putin is going to win.  Just watch....  all the little Trumpturds say it's so.  I bet they are even finding a way to purchase Russian rubles right now... telling themselves it is the next sure fire get-rich-quick plan.  Once Russian's economy comes back they will be richer than the crypto lords who got into BitCoin when it was under $1.

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2022, 01:29:46 PM »
Why don't you,OAK,Prime,Sean Penn & other suckers travel to Kyiv & sort out those Russians ............ :D

Really, didn't Germans & Russians occupied them for a while .............. ;D

OBW, congratulation to Mr.Putin for another victory (Mariupol) , Volodymyr must be craying on CNN all day long ................. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Anyone who supports Putin is a sick piece of human scum

Please do the human race a favor and kill yourself

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2022, 03:18:34 PM »
Anyone who supports Putin is a sick piece of human scum

Please do the human race a favor and kill yourself


BoB if you join Volodymyr army, you could fight Syrians too, 25.Syria Divison is now with Russians too !.


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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2022, 03:44:10 PM »

BoB if you join Volodymyr army, you could fight Syrians too, 25.Syria Divison is now with Russians too !.

You’re German right, why do you love Russia so much?

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Re: Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2022, 03:56:22 PM »
You’re German right, why do you love Russia so much?

He is more likely to be a paid Vlady Putrid fluffer from Redfern
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