Roe V Wade??? Is the end coming?

[Moontrane]

Sure, we do need to look at what happens, in practice - we don't want back alley coat-hanger abortions.

But how about this - is it REALLY so bad that people take responsibility and have children?

Adults are acting like overgrown children these days. Maybe we should let people know that having children isn't the worst thing ever.

And if all these people/couples aren't ready for family, is it really so hard for them to abstain from becoming pregnant?

The term “back alley abortion” is largely misunderstood.  Instead of entering the doctor’s office through the front, women seeking abortions entered through the rear – the back alley - so as to avoid scrutiny, shame, and stigma.

[tommywishbone]

And everyone knows, once something is illegal in the USA it’s impossible to find.

If Roe is overturned- which is highly unlikely- abortions will most likely become even easier to get.

Drop me in any city in the USA and in 1-2 days I’ll find you anything that’s illegal. Except that damn fentanyl! LOL!  I still can’t find pure fentanyl.

[oldschoolfan]

I  am not a liberal by no means, but i do feel  a woman should have a right to choose, this could hurt the republicans big time in the mid terms.

[joswift]

And everyone knows, once something is illegal in the USA it’s impossible to find.

If Roe is overturned- which is highly unlikely- abortions will most likely become even easier to get.

Drop me in any city in the USA and in 1-2 days I’ll find you anything that’s illegal. Except that damn fentanyl! LOL!  I still can’t find pure fentanyl.

ESFitness incoming.......

[Ron]

This leak most likely came from a liberal Democrat that realizes that if they can get this issue moving, that the Republicans, which would have swept the Senate and Congress, less likely to do so.

A woman shall have the right to choose what she wants to do with her body, up to 20-24 weeks, which is why this was passed. Overturning this will create a massive backlash against Republicans.  Poll after poll as said leave it alone, but restrict how long someone can choose to have an abortion.

For the states that ban abortions, are they banning the morning after pill? Will they actual go after murder for a teenage girl while leaving other more vicious violent crimes alone.  Will they guarantee that all of the children now in need in the USA have a place to live, food to eat, or are they just interested in having control over woman into making sure they give birth, and then ok with the kids starving, homeless or worst.

I do wish the same people that are so adamant over this be as ferocious into helping all of the kids out there that truly need help, especially near the border.

[oldschoolfan]

This leak most likely came from a liberal Democrat that realizes that if they can get this issue moving, that the Republicans, which would have swept the Senate and Congress, less likely to do so.

A woman shall have the right to choose what she wants to do with her body, up to 20-24 weeks, which is why this was passed. Overturning this will create a massive backlash against Republicans.  Poll after poll as said leave it alone, but restrict how long someone can choose to have an abortion.

For the states that ban abortions, are they banning the morning after pill? Will they actual go after murder for a teenage girl while leaving other more vicious violent crimes alone.  Will they guarantee that all of the children now in need in the USA have a place to live, food to eat, or are they just interested in having control over woman into making sure they give birth, and then ok with the kids starving, homeless or worst.

I do wish the same people that are so adamant over this be as ferocious into helping all of the kids out there that truly need help, especially near the border.

totally agree and im not even a democrat ,this would be very stupid to do

[Moontrane]

 

[joswift]

This leak most likely came from a liberal Democrat that realizes that if they can get this issue moving, that the Republicans, which would have swept the Senate and Congress, less likely to do so.

A woman shall have the right to choose what she wants to do with her body, up to 20-24 weeks, which is why this was passed. Overturning this will create a massive backlash against Republicans.  Poll after poll as said leave it alone, but restrict how long someone can choose to have an abortion.

For the states that ban abortions, are they banning the morning after pill? Will they actual go after murder for a teenage girl while leaving other more vicious violent crimes alone.  Will they guarantee that all of the children now in need in the USA have a place to live, food to eat, or are they just interested in having control over woman into making sure they give birth, and then ok with the kids starving, homeless or worst.

I do wish the same people that are so adamant over this be as ferocious into helping all of the kids out there that truly need help, especially near the border.

yes, thats technically a potential abortion

Even women menstruating is a potential life lost unless the egg is fertilised.
What next, women must conceive before they waste the chance of creating a life?

[The Scott]

This leak most likely came from a liberal Democrat that realizes that if they can get this issue moving, that the Republicans, which would have swept the Senate and Congress, less likely to do so.

A woman shall have the right to choose what she wants to do with her body, up to 20-24 weeks, which is why this was passed. Overturning this will create a massive backlash against Republicans.  Poll after poll as said leave it alone, but restrict how long someone can choose to have an abortion.

For the states that ban abortions, are they banning the morning after pill? Will they actual go after murder for a teenage girl while leaving other more vicious violent crimes alone.  Will they guarantee that all of the children now in need in the USA have a place to live, food to eat, or are they just interested in having control over woman into making sure they give birth, and then ok with the kids starving, homeless or worst.

I do wish the same people that are so adamant over this be as ferocious into helping all of the kids out there that truly need help, especially near the border.

Those "other" states will gradually make all crimes including rape and murder misdemeanors or less.  Why not?  You can use meth and heroin in Oregon, why should you not be able to murder those that hurted your feeeewings? 

Hopefully Oregon's O.D. related deaths will rise accordingly and rid the state and Nation of worthless dem voters.  Not something dems are counting on but all good folk should  be hoping for.   Stealing should be legal too, including home invasion wherein the poor, downtrodden residentially challenged should be able to kill, rape and steal from those evile whities and anyone else they so rightfully despise.  Throughout the country black on black crime draws little attention from the MMS and dems so it makes sense to abolish laws (except gun laws that allow law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms - if it is not against any law, what are your defending? ) altogether.

Think I am joking?  I am not.  Dems and their kind are a pox on Civilization.  Their pets will turn on them but voters should do just that now.

Mark my words, the left is disgusting and needs to  be destroyed at the polls and forced out.

[Dave D]

He is correct. This is already happening. The other issue is you can't really enforce it. What are you going to do have miscarriage police investigate everytime a woman doesn't go to term? Do they have to register when they test pregnant? Do we set up a government agency to keep track of who is and isn't menstruating? If a woman wants an abortion she is going to get one legal or not. All you are doing is making abortion less safe. 30 year old yuppies are still going to get great abortion care regardless broke 15 year olds will die is that really pro life killing off young teenage girls?

Nope. None of this will happen.

abortions in America aren’t any safer than those in Mexico. They get done safely regardless. If someone is dumb enough to get a coat hanger abortion they weren’t going to make it very far in life.

Tomato, tomatoe.

[Irongrip400]

Not to mention men can't choose to not be a father if they impregnate some woman. It's 2 decades of child support for you regardless of your choice. I'm sure women will be marching for men's rights soon.

Ehh, that argument is weak. You know putting your dick in a woman there is a chance she gets pregnant. There are consequences to actions. This should be a woman’s choice, and she can deal with the consequences in this life or the next. That said, I’m against it is my opinion.

[youandme]

Men shouldn't be making laws about women's bodies. 



Women shouldn't have a say on men's bodies.   

Lmao nice meme

[Grape Ape]

This leak most likely came from a liberal Democrat that realizes that if they can get this issue moving, that the Republicans, which would have swept the Senate and Congress, less likely to do so.

A woman shall have the right to choose what she wants to do with her body, up to 20-24 weeks, which is why this was passed. Overturning this will create a massive backlash against Republicans.  Poll after poll as said leave it alone, but restrict how long someone can choose to have an abortion.

For the states that ban abortions, are they banning the morning after pill? Will they actual go after murder for a teenage girl while leaving other more vicious violent crimes alone.  Will they guarantee that all of the children now in need in the USA have a place to live, food to eat, or are they just interested in having control over woman into making sure they give birth, and then ok with the kids starving, homeless or worst.

I do wish the same people that are so adamant over this be as ferocious into helping all of the kids out there that truly need help, especially near the border.

This, like the elimination of student debt, is just democrat scrambling to sway independents so they don't get crushed at the midterms.

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[TheGrinch]

BLUE WAVE 2022!!!

PEDO FOR POTUS 2024!!!


Let's do this!!

[Mayday]

The Autist view is much easier to deal with this topic.


Birth rate has been falling for ages and is only getting worse being compounded by the fuck tonne of old people getting older who hoard all the wealth and make young people poor so they can’t afford kids.

It’s policy to assist with population control to ensure we don’t have 200yrs to extinction. the govt would rather have a baby alive to grow into a productive person for the country than them not being born into possibly bad circumstances.


If explained like the above it’d be easier for people to accept because we can’t agree on which moral stance is correct. “Due to shrinking population and decimation of birth rates, we are cancelling the abortion option”.  No longer a moral argument and now a maths/population/sustainability argument.

[Megalodon]

 

[Matt]

The term “back alley abortion” is largely misunderstood.  Instead of entering the doctor’s office through the front, women seeking abortions entered through the rear – the back alley - so as to avoid scrutiny, shame, and stigma.

I didn't know that Moontrane. Thank you for clarifying.

Unsolved Mysteries did an episode on just such an abortion.

[epic is back]

absolutely nothing is going to happen

sheep eat up the news cycle misinfo so fast they forget what planet they are on

[Matt]

This leak most likely came from a liberal Democrat that realizes that if they can get this issue moving, that the Republicans, which would have swept the Senate and Congress, less likely to do so.

A woman shall have the right to choose what she wants to do with her body, up to 20-24 weeks, which is why this was passed. Overturning this will create a massive backlash against Republicans.  Poll after poll as said leave it alone, but restrict how long someone can choose to have an abortion.

For the states that ban abortions, are they banning the morning after pill? Will they actual go after murder for a teenage girl while leaving other more vicious violent crimes alone.  Will they guarantee that all of the children now in need in the USA have a place to live, food to eat, or are they just interested in having control over woman into making sure they give birth, and then ok with the kids starving, homeless or worst.

I do wish the same people that are so adamant over this be as ferocious into helping all of the kids out there that truly need help, especially near the border.

Ron, I have a question for you about how far you're willing to go with that stance:

Would you want the USA to take in the entire planet? After all, there are - what - two billion people globally living on under $2 a day. Should we import them all into North America?

You know, I was recently reading about a Palestinian who blew up a bus in Israel. I don't doubt that some of these scumbag terrorists have sad life stories AND have children in need - but Israel, IN GENERAL, doesn't make it a point to support and spoil people like that, like we do in North America.

And you know what I think? GOOD. Why would they??

Shouldn't countries be able to put their own citizens first?

Apparently not.

I feel sorry for poor children from Mexico, but why would the USA import them all, when everyone calls the USA racist anyway?

Maybe if people were more grateful for Americans, I'd say - bring them in. But I despise SIMULTANEOUSLY helping people while being hated on.

And the USA gets that a lot.

That's why I prefer the Israeli model.

Poor kids, I will admit - but I don't think the USA is obligated to help them.

[Matt]

The Autist view is much easier to deal with this topic.


Birth rate has been falling for ages and is only getting worse being compounded by the fuck tonne of old people getting older who hoard all the wealth and make young people poor so they can’t afford kids.

It’s policy to assist with population control to ensure we don’t have 200yrs to extinction. the govt would rather have a baby alive to grow into a productive person for the country than them not being born into possibly bad circumstances.


If explained like the above it’d be easier for people to accept because we can’t agree on which moral stance is correct. “Due to shrinking population and decimation of birth rates, we are cancelling the abortion option”.  No longer a moral argument and now a maths/population/sustainability argument.

Yes!

[IMO]

Great way to put it, Mayday.

China had to eventually do away with its One Child policy, because they had to think about the practical impacts of it.

We can't just abort everyone away, in all circumstances. There are times when the costs of "forcing" women into taking responsibility for getting pregnant outweigh the violations of their "rights" to get unlimited free abortions [here in Canada - at least in the USA, people have to pay].

I'm also confused about why I am required to feel sorry for women who got pregnant and want an abortion. Do women have so little personal autonomy that they are unable to use birth control? I have NEVER had sex, while not being willing to take full responsibility for a potential child.

But to expect the same of women is "oppressing" them? 

I'm sorry, but even if I am technically pro-choice, I will never actively support or condone abortion. W
I think women who require abortions are irresponsible. They had every opportunity to take precautions against pregnancy and didn't do so.

I'd be against taking away the right to medical care of drunk drivers who get into car accidents and require it. But if that right WAS taken away, you wouldn't hear me say "IT'S THEIR RIGHT! RAH! RAH!"

We make it sound like women needing abortions are victims, when 99% of them could have taken birth control to prevent it. They aren't "victims".  At least the majority of times.

[epic is back]

nothing is going to happen


nothing

ill dig this thread up after the mid terms


and you fools can stfu

[Matt]

nothing is going to happen


nothing

ill dig this thread up after the mid terms


and you fools can stfu

Isn't it just making abortion a states rights issue? I heard it was just transferring the power from the federal level to the state level.

I wonder if this was just released to prevent a Republican sweep.

[Thin Lizzy]

The Autist view is much easier to deal with this topic.


Birth rate has been falling for ages and is only getting worse being compounded by the fuck tonne of old people getting older who hoard all the wealth and make young people poor so they can’t afford kids.

It’s policy to assist with population control to ensure we don’t have 200yrs to extinction. the govt would rather have a baby alive to grow into a productive person for the country than them not being born into possibly bad circumstances.


If explained like the above it’d be easier for people to accept because we can’t agree on which moral stance is correct. “Due to shrinking population and decimation of birth rates, we are cancelling the abortion option”.  No longer a moral argument and now a maths/population/sustainability argument.

Most of the abortions are among poor white trash, Blacks and Hispanics:

[Humble Narcissist]

Ehh, that argument is weak. You know putting your dick in a woman there is a chance she gets pregnant. There are consequences to actions. This should be a woman’s choice, and she can deal with the consequences in this life or the next. That said, I’m against it is my opinion.

There are consequences to my actions but she should have no consequences to hers? If she doesn't want to get pregnant she shouldn't have sex either. My argument is not weak at all.

[tommywishbone]

Just a thing that isn't going to happen that the lefties can rally around for the November elections.  Something they can use to ignore the observable reality that Democrats have made a bunch of dumb decisions that are destroying the country.  If there is one thing that Democrats are serious about it's their ability to legally kill their unwanted children.  Never mind that we are all rapidly becoming poorer and less free.  Never mind the food shortages.  Never mind the insane gas prices.  Never mind the corruption.  Never mind that we are about to be in another bloody war that doesn't benefit us in any way.

They gonna take away our abortions, y'all!  Vote Democrat.

Bingo. Just another bad magic trick by the Dems.