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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2022, 12:51:43 PM »
For fuck sake I do exactly what my orthopedic Dr recommends and I still get attacked for it crazy. He didn't say I needed to take weeks off. He didnt say start eating no gmo organic predigested poop. He didn't say to stop lifting. He said I was cleared for all activities good 2 go. He literally said if it hurt some after lifting that was life and to just deal with it. Said no danger of rupturing or weakness just a little pain stretch and ice no worries.

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2022, 12:52:53 PM »
For fuck sake I do exactly what my orthopedic Dr recommends and I still get attacked for it crazy. He didn't say I needed to take weeks off. He didnt say start eating no gmo organic predigested poop. He didn't say to stop lifting. He said I was cleared for all activities good 2 go. a fucking hypercondriac and get the fuck out of his office

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2022, 12:57:39 PM »
For fuck sake I do exactly what my orthopedic Dr recommends and I still get attacked for it crazy. He didn't say I needed to take weeks off. He didnt say start eating no gmo organic predigested poop. He didn't say to stop lifting. He said I was cleared for all activities good 2 go. He literally said if it hurt some after lifting that was life and to just deal with it. Said no danger of rupturing or weakness just a little pain stretch and ice no worries.

did you ask him about your legs?


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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2022, 01:02:08 PM »
For fuck sake I do exactly what my orthopedic Dr recommends and I still get attacked for it crazy. He didn't say I needed to take weeks off. He didnt say start eating no gmo organic predigested poop. He didn't say to stop lifting. He said I was cleared for all activities good 2 go. He literally said if it hurt some after lifting that was life and to just deal with it. Said no danger of rupturing or weakness just a little pain stretch and ice no worries.
You do realize a doctors job is to keep you sick/injured so you continue to use his services, they'll never tell you how to heal and or get down to the root cause of the problem and fix it. Getting a cortisone shot is literally putting a bandaid on a situation like all other medications.

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2022, 01:02:13 PM »
did you ask him about your legs?

no point, they are a lost cause

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2022, 02:19:26 PM »
For fuck sake I do exactly what my orthopedic Dr recommends and I still get attacked for it crazy. He didn't say I needed to take weeks off. He didnt say start eating no gmo organic predigested poop. He didn't say to stop lifting. He said I was cleared for all activities good 2 go. He literally said if it hurt some after lifting that was life and to just deal with it. Said no danger of rupturing or weakness just a little pain stretch and ice no worries.

If he would have said "take two weeks off from anything upper body"....would you have listened Brian?  Honestly.....would you?

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2022, 02:24:48 PM »
Going in for another cortisone shot in the elbow today. Was thinking I would ask for an XRAY and MRI as well to see how much damage is being done? Anyone else have any exp with cortisone shots for golfers elbow (outside of elbow pain) has anyone gotten any surgical corrections or had PRP? Anyone else doing cortisone every couple months?
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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2022, 02:29:29 PM »
If he would have said "take two weeks off from anything upper body"....would you have listened Brian?  Honestly.....would you?

I took 2 weeks off hell I took a ton of time off due to it and it didnt help

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2022, 02:37:56 PM »
I took 2 weeks off hell I took a ton of time off due to it and it didnt help

looks like you took the same approach for your legs.

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2022, 02:47:35 PM »
What kind of fucking weirdo psychopath wakes up every morning and thinks to himself, “what bullshit lie can I make up today to get a little bit of attention on Getbig?”

Holy fuck what an insecure little bitch.

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2022, 02:50:13 PM »
What kind of fucking weirdo psychopath wakes up every morning and thinks to himself, “what bullshit lie can I make up today to get a little bit of attention on Getbig?”

Holy fuck what an insecure little bitch.
Undeniable mental issues.
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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2022, 02:50:43 PM »
I took 2 weeks off hell I took a ton of time off due to it and it didnt help

and in that two weeks what did you do to rehab it?  In that two weeks did you do things that involved that elbow (i.e. repetitive motion type of things)....throwing ball with your kid...etc.  If so, thats not gonna do much to heal.

My disdain for you is high....but what irks me more is when I see people getting shitty advice as well as having unnecessary diagnostic procedures done.  As I said...what the fuck would have changed if you did have a spur?  Nothing!  If you had a serious loss of ROM, then by all means xray that shit.  If not...all it did was line the pockets of the clinic.

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2022, 02:55:58 PM »
Orthopedic Dr said Xray was perfect no sign of bone or joint degeneration good gap no spurs. Said not to worry about cortisone weakening connective tissue unless we werew doing every month said he has never seen one actually rupture. Said he was trained by guy who invented the release surgery and it was a major surgery I dont need. Said when I get bad pain holding a cup of coffee then time for an MRI but just deal woth some pain from lifting and get cortisone every couple moths from now. Said he had conpetitive martial arts guy who he has been giving cortisone to for years without issue. Anyway I for the cortisone and plan to take weekend offf and train monday. He also said to stretch before lifting. He said could do corrisone 3-4 times a year no problem ans when elbow stopped responding to cortisone then MRI

Why do you bother asking if you already know?

Are you really that desperate for attention?


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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2022, 03:21:20 PM »
What kind of fucking weirdo psychopath wakes up every morning and thinks to himself, “what bullshit lie can I make up today to get a little bit of attention on Getbig?”

Holy fuck what an insecure little bitch.

I use to think shitzo faking  his death for attention was pathetic.

But Healy, has been caught in so many lies.

Desperate attempt for validation from Strangers.

Screams inferiority complex from a 178 lbs cuck.

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2022, 03:29:02 PM »
Why do you bother asking if you already know?

Are you really that desperate for attention?

I asked before I left if anyone had exp with the issue instead everyone told me a bunch of heresy and personal opinions none of which appear to be based on actual exp that I asked about. I then reported what the DR said once I got there. I was hoping someone might say they tried PRP or Stem Cells or possibly they were doing cortisone with good results or had bad results from it no one replied with any of that information from personal exp
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« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2022, 03:38:50 PM »
Undeniable mental issues.

No need to bring Matt Canning into this…

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2022, 03:40:39 PM »
No need to bring Matt Canning into this…
Him too.
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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2022, 03:44:44 PM »
Him too.

What troubles Aspy Matty the most:

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2022, 04:30:40 PM »
I asked before I left if anyone had exp with the issue instead everyone told me a bunch of heresy and personal opinions none of which appear to be based on actual exp that I asked about. I then reported what the DR said once I got there. I was hoping someone might say they tried PRP or Stem Cells or possibly they were doing cortisone with good results or had bad results from it no one replied with any of that information from personal exp
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When people used their own examples would those not count as personal experiences?

You seem like a really fun guy to be around!

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2022, 04:37:50 PM »
I asked before I left if anyone had exp with the issue instead everyone told me a bunch of heresy and personal opinions none of which appear to be based on actual exp that I asked about. I then reported what the DR said once I got there. I was hoping someone might say they tried PRP or Stem Cells or possibly they were doing cortisone with good results or had bad results from it no one replied with any of that information from personal exp
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No you specifically asked if anyone had experience with shots, surgery, or PRP.   What was said was not 'heresy' [sic].   I have quite a bit of experience in the treatment of it.

1) PRP is shoddy at best.  If it is an acute case (which yours isn't) it would be more indicated and beneficial
2) Stem Cell might be an option but you typically are not allowed to do anything training with a joint that had stem cell for 6 weeks or so.  Then, you have to resume loading on a limited basis.
3) You wanted more info on cortisone injections.  You have never once mentioned you tried rehab.  You have complained about it in the past and only have taken off for a few days.  This will NOT heal it.  it will less painful but the tendon is far from healed.

Most tendonitis is misdiagnosed and you actually have tendonosis.  By not allowing your tissue (tendon) to fully heal you are causing a change over from healthy collagen type I into immature type II and III.  You also will have a loss of collagen continuity (i.e. collagen fibers no longer aligning with one another).  This in and of itself results in loss of linkage between the fibers and the load bearing that you do will further cause damage to the tendon.  If they looked at your tendons they would not appear white but instead more brown.  They also wouldn't be firm but rather soft and dull.

The overall result of this will be a loss of tendon strength and increase in the bulk of the tendon.  Both of which contribute highly to the cycle of injury (look up cumulative injury cycle for a better understanding).  What's more interesting is in a recent seminar there was connections to tennis elbow and the development of carpal tunnel syndrome.

Laying off the dominating movements (in your case gripping exercises) are needed.  It can take 6 - 8 weeks to see complete resolution of things.  Dry needling, IASTM, the RIGHT rehab movements and increasing vitamin C actually are some of the best things I have seen for people with these kind of problems.  Kinesiotape is hit or miss.  I have had people with rotator issues come to me after being at PT for 4 weeks with little relief and in a week they are 50% better.

Is that enough for you?  Being that you said you have read every scientific study in the last 25 years....this should not come as a surprise

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7083985/
"Current research provides initial support for the efficacy of dry needling for tendinopathy treatment. It seems that tendon needling is minimally invasive, safe, and inexpensive, carries a low risk, and represents a promising area of future research. "

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2022, 05:05:06 PM »
When people used their own examples would those not count as personal experiences?

You seem like a really fun guy to be around!

No one used their own examples for anything I asked about no one had any exp with what I asked about if they did they didnt post it

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2022, 05:14:37 PM »
No one used their own examples for anything I asked about no one had any exp with what I asked about if they did they didnt post it

Have you ever injected anything into your massive cock?

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2022, 05:16:08 PM »

No you specifically asked if anyone had experience with shots, surgery, or PRP.   What was said was not 'heresy' [sic].   I have quite a bit of experience in the treatment of it.

1) PRP is shoddy at best.  If it is an acute case (which yours isn't) it would be more indicated and beneficial
2) Stem Cell might be an option but you typically are not allowed to do anything training with a joint that had stem cell for 6 weeks or so.  Then, you have to resume loading on a limited basis.
3) You wanted more info on cortisone injections.  You have never once mentioned you tried rehab.  You have complained about it in the past and only have taken off for a few days.  This will NOT heal it.  it will less painful but the tendon is far from healed.

Most tendonitis is misdiagnosed and you actually have tendonosis.  By not allowing your tissue (tendon) to fully heal you are causing a change over from healthy collagen type I into immature type II and III.  You also will have a loss of collagen continuity (i.e. collagen fibers no longer aligning with one another).  This in and of itself results in loss of linkage between the fibers and the load bearing that you do will further cause damage to the tendon.  If they looked at your tendons they would not appear white but instead more brown.  They also wouldn't be firm but rather soft and dull.

The overall result of this will be a loss of tendon strength and increase in the bulk of the tendon.  Both of which contribute highly to the cycle of injury (look up cumulative injury cycle for a better understanding).  What's more interesting is in a recent seminar there was connections to tennis elbow and the development of carpal tunnel syndrome.

Laying off the dominating movements (in your case gripping exercises) are needed.  It can take 6 - 8 weeks to see complete resolution of things.  Dry needling, IASTM, the RIGHT rehab movements and increasing vitamin C actually are some of the best things I have seen for people with these kind of problems.  Kinesiotape is hit or miss.  I have had people with rotator issues come to me after being at PT for 4 weeks with little relief and in a week they are 50% better.

Is that enough for you?  Being that you said you have read every scientific study in the last 25 years....this should not come as a surprise

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7083985/
"Current research provides initial support for the efficacy of dry needling for tendinopathy treatment. It seems that tendon needling is minimally invasive, safe, and inexpensive, carries a low risk, and represents a promising area of future research. "

THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT REHAB THAT SHIT IS A JOKE TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIFTS I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE ORTHOPEDICS TELL ME THAT CRAP WOULD BE A WASTE OF MY TIME FOR MULTIPLE INJURIES INCLUDING SURGERIES THEY RECOGNIZE THAT I KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AND REHAB BETTER THAN THE FUCKIGN REHAB CLINIC MY STRENGTH IS WAY PAST REHAB CRAP AND AGAIN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU READ ON PAPER NOT YOUR PERSONAL EXP YOU THINK I HAVENT READ ALL THE SAME SHIT AND TRIED A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS ALREADY FUCKING BPC AND TB 500 YEAH TRIED IT A YEAR AGO DID NOT HELP. WEEKS OFF TRIED IT STRETCHING TRIED IT DIET, SUANA, HEAT, ICE, HAND HOOKS, ELBOW WRAPS, LARGER HAND GRIPS, VARIOS HEALING PEPTIDES, ADDITIONAL DELIBERATE HOLDING OF EXTRA FLUID, DIRECT  INTRA-ARTICULAR INJECTIONS ETC ETC ETC DID NOT HELP Cortisone was my last option as I had hear about weakening of the surrounding tissue but my DR who is a young DR and went to Georgetown is telling me it isn't going to atrophy my massive fucking arms and well trained tendons a couple times a year. He said train away so taking his word for it over you guys who seem to think eating vegan GMO predigested poop and quitting lifting will cure it. You think I don't know what compounds are supposed to increase collagen sythensis and tendon strength and which ones are supposed to weaken them which ones dry you out and what wets the tendons what makes them bigger what makes them brittle what makes them create cross fibers? I have been researching this shit for 25 years. I asked about personal exp. I am not your typical old man coming in for rehab I am a fucking weightlifter I wanted weightlifters personal exp

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2022, 05:17:03 PM »
THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT REHAB THAT SHIT IS A JOKE TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIFTS I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE ORTHOPEDICS TELL ME THAT CRAP WOULD BE A WASTE OF MY TIME FOR MULTIPLE INJURIES INCLUDING SURGERIES THEY RECOGNIZE THAT I KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AND REHAB BETTER THAN THE FUCKIGN REHAB CLINIC MY STRENGTH IS WAY PAST REHAB CRAP AND AGAIN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU READ ON PAPER NOT YOUR PERSONAL EXP YOU THINK I HAVENT READ ALL THE SAME SHIT AND TRIED A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS ALREADY FUCKING BPC AND TB 500 YEAH TRIED IT A YEAR AGO DID NOT HELP. WEEKS OFF TRIED IT STRETCHING TRIED IT DIET, SUANA, HEAT, ICE, HAND HOOKS, ELBOW WRAPS, LARGER HAND GRIPS, VARIOS HEALING PEPTIDES, ADDITIONAL DELIBERATE HOLDING OF EXTRA FLUID, DIRECT  INTRA-ARTICULAR INJECTIONS ETC ETC ETC DID NOT HELP Cortisone was my last option as I had hear about weakening of the surrounding tissue but my DR who is a young DR and went to Georgetown is telling me it isn't going to atrophy my massive fucking arms and well trained tendons a couple times a year. He said train away so taking his word for it over you guys who seem to think eating vegan GMO predigested poop and quitting lifting will cure it. You think I don't know what compounds are supposed to increase collagen sythensis and tendon strength and which ones are supposed to weaken them which ones dry you out and what wets the tendons what makes them bigger what makes them brittle what makes them create cross fibers? I have been researching this shit for 25 years. I asked about personal exp.

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Re: Cortisone Elbow
« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2022, 05:18:05 PM »
THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT REHAB THAT SHIT IS A JOKE TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIFTS I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE ORTHOPEDICS TELL ME THAT CRAP WOULD BE A WASTE OF MY TIME FOR MULTIPLE INJURIES INCLUDING SURGERIES THEY RECOGNIZE THAT I KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AND REHAB BETTER THAN THE FUCKIGN REHAB CLINIC MY STRENGTH IS WAY PAST REHAB CRAP AND AGAIN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU READ ON PAPER NOT YOUR PERSONAL EXP YOU THINK I HAVENT READ ALL THE SAME SHIT AND TRIED A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS ALREADY FUCKING BPC AND TB 500 YEAH TRIED IT A YEAR AGO DID NOT HELP. WEEKS OFF TRIED IT STRETCHING TRIED IT DIET, SUANA, HEAT, ICE, HAND HOOKS, ELBOW WRAPS, LARGER HAND GRIPS, VARIOS HEALING PEPTIDES, ADDITIONAL DELIBERATE HOLDING OF EXTRA FLUID, DIRECT  INTRA-ARTICULAR INJECTIONS ETC ETC ETC DID NOT HELP Cortisone was my last option as I had hear about weakening of the surrounding tissue but my DR who is a young DR and went to Georgetown is telling me it isn't going to atrophy my massive fucking arms and well trained tendons a couple times a year. He said train away so taking his word for it over you guys who seem to think eating vegan GMO predigested poop and quitting lifting will cure it. You think I don't know what compounds are supposed to increase collagen sythensis and tendon strength and which ones are supposed to weaken them which ones dry you out and what wets the tendons what makes them bigger what makes them brittle what makes them create cross fibers? I have been researching this shit for 25 years. I asked about personal exp.

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