Cortisone Elbow

[bhank]

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Guess the maid had some more Adderall in her purse

Just tired of people thinking they are experts based on something they read or what someone told them vs actual exp

[Krankenstein]

No one used their own examples for anything I asked about no one had any exp with what I asked about if they did they didnt post it

Let me know if you have read these:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1568252?link=xref

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(10)61160-9/fulltext

The take away here is that you should be doing rehab on that thing after your shot.  The quip of 'do some stretching before lifting' is such an over generalization.  Working on the pronator teres and flexor carpi radialis originate on the medial epicondyle while the and flexor carpi ulnaris attaches to it.  Working on the pronator and flexor tendons are the main focus.....

[Krankenstein]

THE FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT REHAB THAT SHIT IS A JOKE TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIFTS I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE ORTHOPEDICS TELL ME THAT CRAP WOULD BE A WASTE OF MY TIME FOR MULTIPLE INJURIES INCLUDING SURGERIES THEY RECOGNIZE THAT I KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AND REHAB BETTER THAN THE FUCKIGN REHAB CLINIC MY STRENGTH IS WAY PAST REHAB CRAP AND AGAIN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU READ ON PAPER NOT YOUR PERSONAL EXP YOU THINK I HAVENT READ ALL THE SAME SHIT AND TRIED A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS ALREADY FUCKING BPC AND TB 500 YEAH TRIED IT A YEAR AGO DID NOT HELP. WEEKS OFF TRIED IT STRETCHING TRIED IT DIET, SUANA, HEAT, ICE, HAND HOOKS, ELBOW WRAPS, LARGER HAND GRIPS, VARIOS HEALING PEPTIDES, ADDITIONAL DELIBERATE HOLDING OF EXTRA FLUID, DIRECT  INTRA-ARTICULAR INJECTIONS ETC ETC ETC DID NOT HELP Cortisone was my last option as I had hear about weakening of the surrounding tissue but my DR who is a young DR and went to Georgetown is telling me it isn't going to atrophy my massive fucking arms and well trained tendons a couple times a year. He said train away so taking his word for it over you guys who seem to think eating vegan GMO predigested poop and quitting lifting will cure it. You think I don't know what compounds are supposed to increase collagen sythensis and tendon strength and which ones are supposed to weaken them which ones dry you out and what wets the tendons what makes them bigger what makes them brittle what makes them create cross fibers? I have been researching this shit for 25 years. I asked about personal exp. I am not your typical old man coming in for rehab I am a fucking weightlifter I wanted weightlifters personal exp

Listen up diaper boy....I have worked on more patients than you have shit blood this week.  You don't know shit when it comes to things or you wouldn't be asking people for their experience now would you?

So your guy is a young doctor....like that means anything.  He also didn't say "your massive forearms"....unless afterward he then said "now let me stick my cock in your ass to check your prostate".

Everything I typed went over your head bitch boy.  You aren't a weight lifter.  You a decrepit old fuck.  LIe all you want about "researching this for over 25 years".  Again....you wouldn't have asked the questions you did if you really truly have been researching things.   Oh wait, you said reading things isn't shit....so isn't that a little contradiction there diaper boy?

Fuck you're an arrogant prick.  I am gonna photoshop the fuck out of every fucking pic you post.  Dicks galore on them.....bukake.....your e face is gonna look a like a vagina because thats what you are pussy!

Btw....I am still vascular as all hell....

[Krankenstein]

Just tired of people thinking they are experts based on something they read or what someone told them vs actual exp

You only rehabbed your arms by beating women fuck hole.

[bhank]

Let me know if you have read these:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1568252?link=xref

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(10)61160-9/fulltext

The take away here is that you should be doing rehab on that thing after your shot.  The quip of 'do some stretching before lifting' is such an over generalization.  Working on the pronator teres and flexor carpi radialis originate on the medial epicondyle while the and flexor carpi ulnaris attaches to it.  Working on the pronator and flexor tendons are the main focus.....

The study doesnt mention how many shots were given but it says injection so it sounds like one single shot then wait a year and see if improved with or without. Hardly seems like a thorough enough study to draw their conclusion. Also therapy lol I will absolutely atrophy more from quitting lifting and just doing therapy than I will benefit from so called therapy. The cortisone is only supposed to be an anti imflammatory taking one anti inflammatory then testing a year later isnt going to do a damn thing. But if it reduces pain and allows you to continue to train vs doing some therapy bullshit then yes you may recover much better and not atrophy at all. Also this is general population not weight lifters.

The goal is not to cure all pain forever but to reach an acceptable level to train now I can't just keep taking weeks off because my elbow is sore I am always going to be sore I just want to make sure it isn't going to rupture isn't getting worse and get back to it.

These people were told to avoid anythign for 2 weeks then slowly get back to exercise wtf I am taking the weekend off because I have my son this weekend and already trained and I know from previous it is sore for about 2 days after shot. Come Monday the weights die

[Dave D]

Just tired of people thinking they are experts based on something they read or what someone told them vs actual exp

You’re tired of people who are learned and educated in their field offering advice

But you’re going to take your doctors advice, how long has your doctor had tendinitis? Is he prescribing you the same protocol he used?


The funny thing is you asked for advice and people were going to tell you their experience and you would have followed it based off of what you read…….. do you hate yourself for becoming what you are?

[bhank]

You’re tired of people who are learned and educated in their field offering advice

But you’re going to take your doctors advice, how long has your doctor had tendinitis? Is he prescribing you the same protocol he used?


The funny thing is you asked for advice and people were going to tell you their experience and you would have followed it based off of what you read…….. do you hate yourself for becoming what you are?

I don't follow anything based on what I have read I use personal exp multiple conflicting viewpoints scientific and anecdotal evidence and then make my own logic based decisions

[bhank]

I asked GETBIG for anecdotal and personal evidence because some are a closer demographic than the random population I know how to google and read studies. GETBIG is a better demographic to draw a sample population for analysis

[Dave D]

I don't follow anything based on what I have read I use personal exp multiple conflicting viewpoints scientific and anecdotal evidence and then make my own logic based decisions

So when you asked for personal experiences what did you mean? That the responses wouldn’t matter to your scientific study?

You’re literally talking out of both sides of your mouth. How can you contradict yourself and say you’re not?

[Dave D]

I asked GETBIG for anecdotal and personal evidence because some are a closer demographic than the random population I know how to google and read studies. GETBIG is a better demographic to draw a sample population for analysis

You’ve already said no one here works out so how would this be a better demo to draw from?

[bhank]

So when you asked for personal experiences what did you mean? That the responses wouldn’t matter to your scientific study?

You’re literally talking out of both sides of your mouth. How can you contradict yourself and say you’re not?

I dont just read FOX or CNN or Al Jazeera or BBC you have to read them all to understand the issue you need scientific studies but personal exp also matters a lot what things do on paper and how they work in real life when applied to a trained athlete are often very different. According to the studies I can't eat the way I eat and look the way I do I should be eating starvation rations of seeds and stems or chicken and rice and broccoli all day and yet here I am.

[bhank]

You’ve already said no one here works out so how would this be a better demo to draw from?

There are about 6 guys on here who train I was hoping they might have exp with this issue and respond

[Dave D]

I dont just read FOX or CNN or Al Jazeera or BBC you have to read them all to understand the issue you need scientific studies but personal exp also matters a lot what things do on paper and how they work in real life when applied to a trained athlete are often very different. According to the studies I can't eat the way I eat and look the way I do I should be eating starvation rations of seeds and stems or chicken and rice and broccoli all day and yet here I am.

Got it so you were going to READ personal experiences and then evaluate what you read BUT you can’t stand when people share what they’ve learned from reading.

Seems rational.

There are about 6 guys on here who train I was hoping they might have exp with this issue and respond

Makes sense. It’s almost like you should have asked them directly.

[Krankenstein]

I dont just read FOX or CNN or Al Jazeera or BBC you have to read them all to understand the issue you need scientific studies but personal exp also matters a lot what things do on paper and how they work in real life when applied to a trained athlete are often very different. According to the studies I can't eat the way I eat and look the way I do I should be eating starvation rations of seeds and stems or chicken and rice and broccoli all day and yet here I am.

I was ready to put things behind me and walk you through what I have personally have done and have used on professionals (NFL, MLB, and UFC) along with the more common people.  In case you aren't aware a tendon is a tendon is a tendon.  Just because you are fighting for the LH title in the UFC doesn't the protocol will change all that much as compared to an average lifter.  You had to be this meltdown fuck wad because you're hard wired to be a huge cock smoker in the face of someone who presents the slightest challenge to your ego.

Your Georgetown doc hasn't rehabbed patients....just an FYI there.  He'll give you a 10 min exam, a shot, maybe a script for some nsaids and you'll be on your way. 

How does Dr. Georgetown feel about your 500mg per week and anavar?  Surely with an education like that and how young he is that he would know so so so much more than people who have been in practice for 20 years.

You can't escape the simple fact that you claim to know so much but yet ask people.  Then when you don't get the answer you like you cry like the bitch you are.  You say you've read everything....then say getting things out of research isn't valid.  I am truly only shocked that you don't talk about yourself in 3rd person...so there's something to strive for blood shitter.

[Lartinos]

Cortisone shots are not a long term solution unless your choice is to start making decisions based on health instead of vanity after you receive them.

At your age you heading towards a max pain scenario.

[Dave D]

Cortisone shots are not a long term solution unless your choice is to start making decisions based on health instead of vanity after you receive them.

At your age you heading towards a max pain scenario.

What’s odd is he details his training, he’s not doing powerlifting or even max lifts. How bad are his elbows?

[LittleJ]

Improving forearm strength helps a lot but there's still going to be pain.

[Tapeworm]

What’s odd is he details his training, he’s not doing powerlifting or even max lifts. How bad are his elbows?

Pointy. Way too pointy.

[bhank]

I was ready to put things behind me and walk you through what I have personally have done and have used on professionals (NFL, MLB, and UFC) along with the more common people.  In case you aren't aware a tendon is a tendon is a tendon.  Just because you are fighting for the LH title in the UFC doesn't the protocol will change all that much as compared to an average lifter.  You had to be this meltdown fuck wad because you're hard wired to be a huge cock smoker in the face of someone who presents the slightest challenge to your ego.

Your Georgetown doc hasn't rehabbed patients....just an FYI there.  He'll give you a 10 min exam, a shot, maybe a script for some nsaids and you'll be on your way. 

How does Dr. Georgetown feel about your 500mg per week and anavar?  Surely with an education like that and how young he is that he would know so so so much more than people who have been in practice for 20 years.

You can't escape the simple fact that you claim to know so much but yet ask people.  Then when you don't get the answer you like you cry like the bitch you are.  You say you've read everything....then say getting things out of research isn't valid.  I am truly only shocked that you don't talk about yourself in 3rd person...so there's something to strive for blood shitter.

Rehab is nonsense for someone like me I am not an 80 year old man with a weakness that needs to be rehabbed. Rehabbing someone is not the same as having done it yourself. Have you personally had cortisone in your elbow? Have you personally tried PRP Stem Cells or Surgery? The doctor I saw is a Ortho not an Endo. I asked for personal exp as in your fucking elbow not someone else. I never said research isn't valid but most studies are extremely flawed the 2 you provided are flawed as flawed can be and provide no actual good information it is impossible to draw any conclusion from them much less the ones they claim. Fucking guys think allergies and carbs caused my elbow pain fucking nonsense quitting lifting is not even on the table. Additionally I have tried several of the things recommended and I have access to things that change collagen synthesis that you want to rant about. I am not a typical 44 year old man while a tendon is a tendon physiology is not physiology mine is ramped up like a 20 year old. But yes I have 25 years of lifting on the tendon. I absolutely do not have any kind of forearm strength imbalance that is not the issue doing some forearm exercises isn't going to help me. If anything I have done too much forearm work. I also can not take NSAID due to my stomach. So yes cortisone is my anti inflammatory option I can take other compounds that reduce inflammation that is how I got the knee fluid down and how I can fucking walk now but the elbow was bothering me so I wanted to see the DR and check it out. The cortisone is supposed to be a band aid and I wanted to see if I had a bigger issue and how quickly it may be progressing my DR reassured me it wasn't going to rupture and the cortisone wouldnt cause atrophying of the surrounding tissue. As such I took his advice and got a cortisone shot. I asked him specifically abot that issue as like everyone else I have heard that. He reassured me not to worry about that as we were not doing it that often he then told me about a local well known athlete doing it for years without issue. I have other things at my disposal but the cortisone helped a lot last time. I have been trying to find a clinic that does PRP into the elbow without success. You have to be a real Billy fucking badass to actually do your own intra articular HGH injection but that is also a known treatment some may argue HGH makes tendons larger and not stronger then others will tell you some compounds reduce collagen sythesis and some increase it some compounds put more or less fluid around the joint. And some people will tell you to take otc supplements again lots of ideas and theories but the cortisone worked last time. But you are not willing to try what I am willing to try you are not willing to go where I am willing to go you don't have the exp I have Mr Natural Pro

[IroNat]

Bhanky,

What exercises bother your elbow?

The same ones that bothered your elbow the last time you posted about this?

[Cook]

I use to do a lot of skull crushers. Hell I treated it like a powerlift. I did them for years adding weight then eventually I was spending so much time rubbing my elbows between sets from the pain I reluctantly gave them up.After just a few weeks my elbow pain went away and is still pretty good years later. I do other tricep exercises including dips and close grip benches so I can still hit them with heavy weights

[Krankenstein]

Rehab is nonsense for someone like me I am not an 80 year old man with a weakness that needs to be rehabbed. Rehabbing someone is not the same as having done it yourself. Have you personally had cortisone in your elbow? Have you personally tried PRP Stem Cells or Surgery? The doctor I saw is a Ortho not an Endo. I asked for personal exp as in your fucking elbow not someone else. I never said research isn't valid but most studies are extremely flawed the 2 you provided are flawed as flawed can be and provide no actual good information it is impossible to draw any conclusion from them much less the ones they claim. Fucking guys think allergies and carbs caused my elbow pain fucking nonsense quitting lifting is not even on the table. Additionally I have tried several of the things recommended and I have access to things that change collagen synthesis that you want to rant about. I am not a typical 44 year old man while a tendon is a tendon physiology is not physiology mine is ramped up like a 20 year old. But yes I have 25 years of lifting on the tendon. I absolutely do not have any kind of forearm strength imbalance that is not the issue doing some forearm exercises isn't going to help me. If anything I have done too much forearm work. I also can not take NSAID due to my stomach. So yes cortisone is my anti inflammatory option I can take other compounds that reduce inflammation that is how I got the knee fluid down and how I can fucking walk now but the elbow was bothering me so I wanted to see the DR and check it out. The cortisone is supposed to be a band aid and I wanted to see if I had a bigger issue and how quickly it may be progressing my DR reassured me it wasn't going to rupture and the cortisone wouldnt cause atrophying of the surrounding tissue. As such I took his advice and got a cortisone shot. I asked him specifically abot that issue as like everyone else I have heard that. He reassured me not to worry about that as we were not doing it that often he then told me about a local well known athlete doing it for years without issue. I have other things at my disposal but the cortisone helped a lot last time. I have been trying to find a clinic that does PRP into the elbow without success. You have to be a real Billy fucking badass to actually do your own intra articular HGH injection but that is also a known treatment some may argue HGH makes tendons larger and not stronger then others will tell you some compounds reduce collagen sythesis and some increase it some compounds put more or less fluid around the joint. And some people will tell you to take otc supplements again lots of ideas and theories but the cortisone worked last time. But you are not willing to try what I am willing to try you are not willing to go where I am willing to go you don't have the exp I have Mr Natural Pro

1) Do explain why rehab is nonsense for someone like "you".  You have an injury.  What does rehab do?  Heal injuries.  You are doing someone wrong and/or there is a deficit somewhere.  But you know all, so therefore you should be able to find it rather than ask the board for opinions on cortisone.

2) I had a cortisone shot in two other joints.  I went through stem cell on shoulder and knee.  PRP on knee.....HA injections on knee. 

3) I gave you two studies....wow....amazin g how your young MD who thinks your forearms are massive knows more than the ortho who fixed my shoulder who also happens to treat the sox, the bulls, and the blackhawks.  Damn, if only he would have went to Georgetown.

4) YOu look at studies and you CAN draw conclusions....thats the point of research you dolt.

5) Oh, so its not physiologicallyyours?  Thats the same thing fat people say when they talk about their metabolism.  The saythat shit so they can feel special and not have to admit they aren't special.

6) You potentially could have imbalance Brian.  Weren't you the one complaining / bragging about how many injuries you've had to your shoulder?  You think that doesn't play a roll in how the kinetic chain works?  Oh wait, you do...why am I bothering.

7) You just said you have done too much forearm work...didn't I say it was possible for it to be repetitive stress (cumulative injury cycle sound familiar)?

So what exactly wasn't going to rupture Brian?  Was he specific in which tendon?  I won't ask you to name the ones at the medial epicondyle because all you will do is google that shit.

9) oooooohhh   so a local athlete has been getting shots for years without problems.  Sounds like that person has the same mentality you do and doesn't want to do the things necessary to fix.

10) Oh, so I need to inject myself to be on your level?  Hmmm....yeah, I will get right on that.  I had medial epicondylagia TWICE in my life.  Three weeks of doing the right things and all gone.  Fuck, if only I had known about you sooner.....

11) In case you missed it, I've TREATED guys with 100x the talent and abilities you do...and none....not ONE of them were as ignorant, close minded, and stubborn as you.


I have no desire to go where you are going Mr Pant shitter....I have an injury, I don't use it as a badge of courage like you do.  I address it so I can continue to do the things I want to do.  You like playing the sympathy card.  I bet the 'young Md who thinks your forearms are massive' just went along with your ego and gave you the shot so you would shut up and get the fuck out of his office.  Every time he sees you on the schedule I bet he will say "geezus, not this fucking know it all again".

Wow...can't believe how vascular my forearms are today.  I can't wait to hit the pullup bar INSIDE the gym...without any pain.  Jealous?

[bhank]

1) Do explain why rehab is nonsense for someone like "you".  You have an injury.  What does rehab do?  Heal injuries.  You are doing someone wrong and/or there is a deficit somewhere.  But you know all, so therefore you should be able to find it rather than ask the board for opinions on cortisone.

2) I had a cortisone shot in two other joints.  I went through stem cell on shoulder and knee.  PRP on knee.....HA injections on knee. 

3) I gave you two studies....wow....amazin g how your young MD who thinks your forearms are massive knows more than the ortho who fixed my shoulder who also happens to treat the sox, the bulls, and the blackhawks.  Damn, if only he would have went to Georgetown.

4) YOu look at studies and you CAN draw conclusions....thats the point of research you dolt.

5) Oh, so its not physiologicallyyours?  Thats the same thing fat people say when they talk about their metabolism.  The saythat shit so they can feel special and not have to admit they aren't special.

6) You potentially could have imbalance Brian.  Weren't you the one complaining / bragging about how many injuries you've had to your shoulder?  You think that doesn't play a roll in how the kinetic chain works?  Oh wait, you do...why am I bothering.

7) You just said you have done too much forearm work...didn't I say it was possible for it to be repetitive stress (cumulative injury cycle sound familiar)?

So what exactly wasn't going to rupture Brian?  Was he specific in which tendon?  I won't ask you to name the ones at the medial epicondyle because all you will do is google that shit.

9) oooooohhh   so a local athlete has been getting shots for years without problems.  Sounds like that person has the same mentality you do and doesn't want to do the things necessary to fix.

10) Oh, so I need to inject myself to be on your level?  Hmmm....yeah, I will get right on that.  I had medial epicondylagia TWICE in my life.  Three weeks of doing the right things and all gone.  Fuck, if only I had known about you sooner.....

11) In case you missed it, I've TREATED guys with 100x the talent and abilities you do...and none....not ONE of them were as ignorant, close minded, and stubborn as you.


I have no desire to go where you are going Mr Pant shitter....I have an injury, I don't use it as a badge of courage like you do.  I address it so I can continue to do the things I want to do.  You like playing the sympathy card.  I bet the 'young Md who thinks your forearms are massive' just went along with your ego and gave you the shot so you would shut up and get the fuck out of his office.  Every time he sees you on the schedule I bet he will say "geezus, not this fucking know it all again".

Wow...can't believe how vascular my forearms are today.  I can't wait to hit the pullup bar INSIDE the gym...without any pain.  Jealous?

How you going to claim natural with 40k worth of stem cell treatments lol you wont inject but you let the Dr inject you no priblem with 40k worth of dr injections but someone cant afford that injects 100$ worth of deca themselve instead and they are a driggie that is why I hate alo the fake nattie who act better than everyone else  hypocrits

[bhank]

Also resting heart rate under 100 going to live forever

[GymnJuice]

Also resting heart rate under 100 going to live forever

Are you concerned about this lower heart rate? Babies have much higher heart rates and they grow very quickly. Maybe your sub-100 heart rate means your growth has slowed?