Scott Alexander Update.

[chaos]

WOW.

Another rude post.

FYI....Ron we'll be hearing about this.

 

Ron used my account to post that.

[Matt]

Deaths are increasing because the government lifted COVID restricts.

EVERBODY knows this.

 

I couldn't find the death data from this time last year. And www.archive.org is deleting the records, since they damage the narrative. 

But we had approximately 10,500 deaths by this date last year.

We are at 12,378 so far this year.

Keep in mind, only about 1,200 of those are deaths directly of Covid. As 90% of those people had cancer or other diseases. It's disingenuous to call them Covid deaths.

It's not like the deaths are WAY different. It's proof to me that whether we have restrictions or not, the deaths will be roughly the same.

Look at the deaths so far:

2020: 15,569 [restrictions, but no vaccine].

2021: 14,473 [heavier restrictions, and vaccine rolled out].

2022: 12,378 [no restrictions, but vaccine + boosters].

^ So last year, with the vaccine and the heavier restrictions, deaths were barely lower than 2020, with no vaccine at all.

The main reason is because these aren't truly Covid deaths. As I said, 90% have cancer or other diseases. So no amount of vaccines and restrictions will prevent people from dying of cancer.

As long as they call them "Covid deaths", they will never go away because we're always going to have people die of cancer who happen have a flu at the time.

And the PCR test gives a lot of false positives.

Look at this fraudulent case that the government had to retract - the case of 14-year-old Nathanael Spitzer, who died of Stage IV brain cancer, but Alberta top quack doctor Deena Hinshaw lied, and called his death Covid:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/covid-comorbidities-alberta-spitzer-1.6212510

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/hinshaw-apologizes-after-alberta-mistakenly-reports-14-year-old-s-cancer-death-was-caused-by-covid-19-1.5623489

Nathanael Spitzer's family called out the Alberta government for this lie:

https://www.westernstandard.news/opinion/fildebrandt-alberta-s-government-lied-about-the-death-of-young-teen-nathanael-spitzer-and-the/article_5d313860-0c7a-5893-be7d-57317c3c6fe7.html

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/spitzer-family-says-alberta-government-ndp-spreading-fake-news-that-nathanael-s-death-was-from/article_a7bc0a3d-236c-5b60-a138-1eadc40cbb07.html

And that's why the numbers mean nothing. Under 10% are genuine Covid deaths.

[OAK]

Keep in mind, only about 1,200 of those are deaths directly of Covid. As 90% of those people had cancer or other diseases. It's disingenuous to call them Covid deaths.

This statement is completely wrong.

That means the rest of your argument is wrong too.

[Matt]

You obviously think that if someone has comorbidities they CAN'T die of COVID.

93% of Canadians over age 45 have "comorbidities".

Does that mean that 93% of Canadians over age 45 can't die of COVID?

 

Do those 45+ aged Canadians have multiple health conditions or just one? Because the majority of those who died of Covid had multiple health conditions.

OAK - how many health conditions do you have? I have zero.

We can't call a death exclusively Covid if they have health conditions - let alone multiple health conditions.

In the USA, there have been about a million deaths.

Among those deaths, 680,000 had six or more underlying health conditions.

780,000 were overweight or obese!

And among childhood Covid deaths, 61% were MORBIDLY obese!

[OAK]

Do those 45+ aged Canadians have multiple health conditions or just one? Because the majority of those who died of Covid had multiple health conditions.

OAK - how many health conditions do you have? I have zero.

We can't call a death exclusively Covid if they have health conditions - let alone multiple health conditions.

In the USA, there have been about a million deaths.

Among those deaths, 680,000 had six or more underlying health conditions.

780,000 were overweight or obese!

And among childhood Covid deaths, 61% were MORBIDLY obese!

LOL

You can't just make up your own rules.

Do you have ANY formal medical training?

 

[Matt]

This statement is completely wrong.

That means the rest of your argument is wrong too.

What I'm saying is only about 1,200 Canadians who died of Covid this year had no health conditions, and died exclusively of Covid.

Most who die of Covid were already dying.

My city just hit 100 Covid deaths the other day.

82 of them were over age 70.

So only 18 people in my city under age 70 have died of Covid.

And I don't know of any among those 18 who didn't have cancer or other diseases.

Do you know anyone who was not elderly and who has no health conditions who died, OAK?

I mean, people you know personally, and know on a first name basis.

Did any healthy non-elderly person in your city die of Covid?

[chaos]

This statement is completely wrong.

That means the rest of your argument is wrong too.

No it's not. You're a liar and one of the worst cases of denial outside of bhank.

[MAXX]

meh... people just use covid as a cope or excuse to be lazy.

[OAK]

Most who die of Covid were already dying.

LOL

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous.


MATT C.: EVERYBODY will die some day......therefore COVID can't change anything.

 

[OAK]

No it's not. You're a liar and one of the worst cases of denial outside of bhank.

Let me guess.....Ron posted this.

 

[chaos]

Let me guess.....Ron posted this.

 

No, PrincessL did.
 

[Matt]

LOL

You can't just make up your own rules.

Do you have ANY formal medical training?

 

No. Just First Aid, and CPR training. I have formal mathematics education.

We need to distinguish deaths with Covid versus deaths directly of Covid.

Most deaths listed as Covid deaths are of people with underlying health conditions.

Only 10% died exclusively of Covid, if not fewer.

Also, the average age is about 80. Canadians aged 70+ comprise 82% of deaths. In the USA, people aged 75+ comprise over 50% of deaths.

So while we are having ~15,000 Covid deaths each year, 12,000+ of those people are over 70.

So under 3,000 Canadians under age 70 die of Covid each year. And about 2,700 of them have cancer or other diseases.

Covid is not a threat for healthy people.

How many healthy people do you personal know who died, OAK?

[Matt]

OAK,

Only 7,709 Canadians under age 70 have died of Covid so far:



^ And as you can see, only 3,138 Canadians under age 60 have died. That's in over 2.5 years.

[OAK]

OAK,

Only 7,709 Canadians under age 70 have died of Covid so far:



^ And as you can see, only 3,138 Canadians under age 60 have died. That's in over 2.5 years.

Yes.

Because of the vaccine and vaccine mandates.

[Matt]

Yes.

Because of the vaccine and vaccine mandates.

Or maybe no one is dying anyway?

How come all your unvaccinated friends are fine?

Almost zero people are dying, regardless of vaccine status.

Did you know something like only 43% or 57% of young people are getting boosted?

Deaths aren't going up though.

OAK,

So 7,709 of 33,398,309 under the age of 70 have died. That means 99.977% Canadians under age 70 have survived the pandemic so far.

And 3,138 of 28,557,431 under the age of 60 have died. That means 99.989% Canadians under age 60 have survived the pandemic so far.

[OAK]

No. Just First Aid, and CPR training. I have formal mathematics education. (yes I know  )

We need to distinguish deaths with Covid versus deaths directly of Covid.

The Doctors have already done that.

That's what they went to University for.

Do you believe that you are more knowledgeable than Medical Doctors even though you have no formal medical training?

[OAK]

Or maybe no one is dying anyway?



Almost zero people are dying, regardless of vaccine status.

Wrong again!

 

[Matt]

The Doctors have already done that.

That's what they went to University for.

Do you believe that you are more knowledgeable than Medical Doctors even though you have no formal medical training?

Yes, they have done that - but the government combines all deaths, and makes it look like a million Americans have died.

OAK - 680,000 had SIX diseases or more.

In fact, only 60,000 died directly of Covid, and the average age was 84.

Do you really think anyone would have cared about this pandemic if they knew most people who died were elderly and diseased?

People were made to believe healthy people were dropping dead.

How many healthy people do you personally know who died, OAK?

[OAK]

In fact, only 60,000 died directly of Covid.

Not correct.

They ALL died directly from COVID.

[Matt]

Not correct.

They ALL died directly from COVID.

Even the ones with six or more diseases?!?!

[OAK]

Even the ones with six or more diseases?!?!

Of course.

If someone gets struck by lightning (or COVID).

The lighting is the primary cause of death.

NOT the other 6 conditions that they already had.

[Walter Sobchak]

LOL

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous.


MATT C.: EVERYBODY will die some day......therefore COVID can't change anything.

 

Matt “Connoisseur of Cock” Canning is so stupid.

We are all dying - one day at a time.

[OAK]

Matt “Connoisseur of Cock” Canning is so stupid.

We are all dying - one day at a time.

😆

[tommywishbone]

Covid. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!

[Matt]

Of course.

If someone gets struck by lightning (or COVID).

The lighting is the primary cause of death.

NOT the other 6 conditions that they already had.

In my city's first death, the man who died had leukemia as well as Covid.

Would you say Covid was the primary cause of death for him?