Idaho stabbings…..

[SF1900]

It’s out there, the keystone cops are trying to keep it under wraps but the boob job kid’s dad won’t shut up. Even the bar video shows them trying to take the female bartender home with them.

Goncalves recently broke up with her boyfriend.

[illuminati]

Is that the case? I know they were stabbed to death but was each victim stabbed 30 times and in the face?

In the early days of the internet it was only a matter of time before crime scene photos were leaked. That doesn't seem to happen as much anymore.

Still don't know why the police would say tgeres no threat to the public. That doesn't make any sense.

Still don't know why the police would say tgeres no threat to the public. That doesn't make any sense.

Probably because its one of their own cops !!

[SF1900]

Is that the case? I know they were stabbed to death but was each victim stabbed 30 times and in the face?

In the early days of the internet it was only a matter of time before crime scene photos were leaked. That doesn't seem to happen as much anymore.

Still don't know why the police would say tgeres no threat to the public. That doesn't make any sense.

This is all I could find:

“A coroner determined the four victims were each stabbed multiple times and were likely asleep when the attacks began.”

Multiple can mean anything.

[Royalty]

Still don't know why the police would say tgeres no threat to the public. That doesn't make any sense.

Probably because its one of their own cops !!

Or government officials

[tommywishbone]

Remind me to only rob banks and kill people in Idaho. WTF! Who’s in charge of the investigation- Stevie Wonder?

[SF1900]

Remind me to only rob banks and kill people in Idaho. WTF! Who’s in charge of the investigation- Stevie Wonder?

Remember, small towns are not equipped to deal with this level of criminality. They were probably all shitting their pants.

[Royalty]

Remember, small towns are not equipped to deal with this level of criminality. They were probably all shitting their pants.

Don’t say that about Ray Charles. He knows what he’s doing.

[chaos]

Remind me to only rob banks and kill people in Idaho. WTF! Who’s in charge of the investigation- Stevie Wonder?

Again?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I sure hope they find those black guys who did it...Tony Soprano

[Humble Narcissist]

I sure hope they find those black guys who did it...Tony Soprano

They would be the only black guys in the state. I'm sure they've already been investigated.

[SF1900]

I don’t think it’s someone in the town or someone they knew

I have a feeling it’s the work of a random killer. Then again, to do the murder so perfectly, one would have to think it’s someone they knew.

Strange case.

[Dalnet]

I don’t think it’s someone in the town or someone they knew

I have a feeling it’s the work of a random killer. Then again, to do the murder so perfectly, one would have to think it’s someone they knew.

Strange case.

That level of overkill/frenzy usually implies somebody known to the victim(s). There's exceptions like nutjobs/mental cases that keep stabbing in rage but there's something off about this. If it was a random nutjob then surely this weirdo would have carried on their spree since then? God/Devil voices don't usually just disappear now you've massacred 4 people.

It's frenzied, yet controlled. Messy yet clearly not enough evidence/DNA/fibres that we know about (unless like someone mentioned the cops are keeping cards close to their chest) Just would have thought by now there'd be some progress told to the media.

[SF1900]

That level of overkill/frenzy usually implies somebody known to the victim(s). There's exceptions like nutjobs/mental cases that keep stabbing in rage but there's something off about this. If it was a random nutjob then surely this weirdo would have carried on their spree since then? God/Devil voices don't usually just disappear now you've massacred 4 people.

It's frenzied, yet controlled. Messy yet clearly not enough evidence/DNA/fibres that we know about (unless like someone mentioned the cops are keeping cards close to their chest) Just would have thought by now there'd be some progress told to the media.

I agree with your point that the stabbings were too vicious to appear random--they had personal written all over it.

Don't confuse "random nut job" with necessarily being a serial killer. Most serial killers are smart and methodical. They plan their killings in a very specific way. I used to do A LOT of reading on serial killers in my teenage years. With regard to your statement, "this weirdo would have carried on their spree since then?." This is not necessarily true. It's only been 5 weeks--some of Ted Bundy's victims were a few months apart. Many serial killers have periods, such as weeks, sometimes even months, where they don't kill anyone (it is hypothesized that the Zodiac Killer didn't kill for years before making a comeback). Interviews with serial killers often reveal that they kill to satisfy some drive, then it goes away for X amount of time, then resurfaces--they can only suppress it for so long. Yes, you're right, "God/Devil voices don't usually just disappear now you've massacred 4 people." However, many known serial killers are known to carry on with their daily lives without killing until the voices (or whatever) become too overwhelming. The voices don't necessarily disappear, but the voices can wax and wane depending on a lot of variables. Sometimes the voices can be stronger or lesser at certain times and more easily manageable.

Like you, I would have also thought there would have been more progress. But remember, half of all murders in the United States today go unsolved. This one could be no different.

[illuminati]

That level of overkill/frenzy usually implies somebody known to the victim(s). There's exceptions like nutjobs/mental cases that keep stabbing in rage but there's something off about this. If it was a random nutjob then surely this weirdo would have carried on their spree since then? God/Devil voices don't usually just disappear now you've massacred 4 people.

It's frenzied, yet controlled. Messy yet clearly not enough evidence/DNA/fibres that we know about (unless like someone mentioned the cops are keeping cards close to their chest) Just would have thought by now there'd be some progress told to the media.

Where was Brandon on that night ?

[Dalnet]

I agree with your point that the stabbings were too vicious to appear random--they had personal written all over it.

Don't confuse "random nut job" with necessarily being a serial killer. Most serial killers are smart and methodical. They plan their killings in a very specific way. I used to do A LOT of reading on serial killers in my teenage years. With regard to your statement, "this weirdo would have carried on their spree since then?." This is not necessarily true. It's only been 5 weeks--some of Ted Bundy's victims were a few months apart. Many serial killers have periods, such as weeks, sometimes even months, where they don't kill anyone (it is hypothesized that the Zodiac Killer didn't kill for years before making a comeback). Interviews with serial killers often reveal that they kill to satisfy some drive, then it goes away for X amount of time, then resurfaces--they can only suppress it for so long. Yes, you're right, "God/Devil voices don't usually just disappear now you've massacred 4 people." However, many known serial killers are known to carry on with their daily lives without killing until the voices (or whatever) become too overwhelming. The voices don't necessarily disappear, but the voices can wax and wane depending on a lot of variables. Sometimes the voices can be stronger or lesser at certain times and more easily manageable.

Like you, I would have also thought there would have been more progress. But remember, half of all murders in the United States today go unsolved. This one could be no different.

Some good points there. I didn't really approach it from that perspective of a 'standard' serial killer because there was no difference between the assaults. BTK would quickly kill those he didn't want (like that family where he was really after the little girl and did his weirdo hanging job with her but killed the others quickly) whereas this sicko killed all 4 students/roommates with the same method and same level of overkill. Richard Ramirez was the same - as was Joseph Deangelo - kill off the men quickly and have his sick fun with the women. Whatever this is - it's not the usual serial killer type. All 4 killed with the same method in the same rage. There's something very different about this dirty bastard of a scumbag.

I think you're right about the 'cool off' periods. To me - this is more of a spree killer freak which is why I'm surprised there's been nothing else which brings me back to the original assumption that it's either that OR someone that was known to at least one of the victims.

I'd expect a methodical serial killer to be into something a little more practiced such as bondage/cable ties/prolonged sadism such as strangulation and release but this is just some crazy overkill thing. I'd understand if the 3 other victims were quickly stabbed up and he focused on the last victim with some kind of sexual/sadistic type prolonged shit but this is just like a conveyor belt of stabby stabby next stabby stabby next. As if he hasn't taken the time to 'enjoy' his work.

Fucking shame they haven't caught the fuckhead yet. There's got to be DNA just got to be something.

[GymnJuice]

Don't confuse "random nut job" with necessarily being a serial killer. Most serial killers are smart and methodical. They plan their killings in a very specific way. I used to do A LOT of reading on serial killers in my teenage years. With regard to your statement, "this weirdo would have carried on their spree since then?." This is not necessarily true. It's only been 5 weeks--some of Ted Bundy's victims were a few months apart. Many serial killers have periods, such as weeks, sometimes even months, where they don't kill anyone (it is hypothesized that the Zodiac Killer didn't kill for years before making a comeback). Interviews with serial killers often reveal that they kill to satisfy some drive, then it goes away for X amount of time, then resurfaces--they can only suppress it for so long. Yes, you're right, "God/Devil voices don't usually just disappear now you've massacred 4 people." However, many known serial killers are known to carry on with their daily lives without killing until the voices (or whatever) become too overwhelming. The voices don't necessarily disappear, but the voices can wax and wane depending on a lot of variables. Sometimes the voices can be stronger or lesser at certain times and more easily manageable.

[SF1900]

Some good points there. I didn't really approach it from that perspective of a 'standard' serial killer because there was no difference between the assaults. BTK would quickly kill those he didn't want (like that family where he was really after the little girl and did his weirdo hanging job with her but killed the others quickly) whereas this sicko killed all 4 students/roommates with the same method and same level of overkill. Richard Ramirez was the same - as was Joseph Deangelo - kill off the men quickly and have his sick fun with the women. Whatever this is - it's not the usual serial killer type. All 4 killed with the same method in the same rage. There's something very different about this dirty bastard of a scumbag.

I think you're right about the 'cool off' periods. To me - this is more of a spree killer freak which is why I'm surprised there's been nothing else which brings me back to the original assumption that it's either that OR someone that was known to at least one of the victims.

I'd expect a methodical serial killer to be into something a little more practiced such as bondage/cable ties/prolonged sadism such as strangulation and release but this is just some crazy overkill thing. I'd understand if the 3 other victims were quickly stabbed up and he focused on the last victim with some kind of sexual/sadistic type prolonged shit but this is just like a conveyor belt of stabby stabby next stabby stabby next. As if he hasn't taken the time to 'enjoy' his work.

Fucking shame they haven't caught the fuckhead yet. There's got to be DNA just got to be something.

Thanks for the comment and feedback.

I agree, this does not seem like the typical serial killer--as you say, seems more like a potential spree killer.  I didn't think of that. I would imagine if this was a typical serial killer, as noted by you, there would have been a difference between the killings or possibly a sexual assault involved. But, given that all 4 were killed in the same exact way and no sexual assaults, it has the feel of a spree killer. On the other hand, maybe it is a serial killer, who just went in, did the job and left--kind of broke rank and didn't follow his usual trends/killing routine--but that's likely a stretch since serial killers tend to be pretty obsessive about their routines. To be honest, I have no idea.

Usually serial killers are much harder to catch than spree killers, since spree killers are just so haphazard and unrestrained. You would think if this was a spree killer, he would have left something behind, some sort of evidence. This person REALLY covered their tracks. If this was solely the work of a spree killer, it definitely leaves a lot of questions open. Biggest question is "Why them four?"

[SF1900]

Was this from the show MindHunter on Netflix?

[Dalnet]

Thanks for the comment and feedback.

I agree, this does not seem like the typical serial killer--as you say, seems more like a potential spree killer.  I didn't think of that. I would imagine if this was a typical serial killer, as noted by you, there would have been a difference between the killings or possibly a sexual assault involved. But, given that all 4 were killed in the same exact way and no sexual assaults, it has the feel of a spree killer. On the other hand, maybe it is a serial killer, who just went in, did the job and left--kind of broke rank and didn't follow his usual trends/killing routine--but that's likely a stretch since serial killers tend to be pretty obsessive about their routines. To be honest, I have no idea.

Usually serial killers are much harder to catch than spree killers, since spree killers are just so haphazard and unrestrained. You would think if this was a spree killer, he would have left something behind, some sort of evidence. This person REALLY covered their tracks. If this was solely the work of a spree killer, it definitely leaves a lot of questions open. Biggest question is "Why them four?"

Exactly. Someone that felt comfortable going into that property. Almost as if they knew the layout and had researched it as the police believe the guy entered not on the ground floor - whatever that means. Not sure as to the history of the property whether it's one of those student type houses or the landlord has been renting to student types for a long time. Maybe a previous resident?

If this is just a thrill kill situation why use a knife instead of a gun? However they prevented trace ev/transfer they've got some balls to do this with a knife and risk that much. Probably wore some forensic suit, mask and had a full body shave beforehand. It's just crazy.

There's murders you hear about that make you wonder. Reminds me of the Keddie Cabin murders.

[Gym Rat]

Was this from the show MindHunter on Netflix?

yup, great show.. I think they cancelled it...

[SF1900]

Exactly. Someone that felt comfortable going into that property. Almost as if they knew the layout and had researched it as the police believe the guy entered not on the ground floor - whatever that means. Not sure as to the history of the property whether it's one of those student type houses or the landlord has been renting to student types for a long time. Maybe a previous resident?

If this is just a thrill kill situation why use a knife instead of a gun? However they prevented trace ev/transfer they've got some balls to do this with a knife and risk that much. Probably wore some forensic suit, mask and had a full body shave beforehand. It's just crazy.

There's murders you hear about that make you wonder. Reminds me of the Keddie Cabin murders.

I have been following the story every day. I am really intrigued by it.

It seems to be a student rented house for college students. So, according to many others, the house was a party house. It was rented to college students over the years. In fact, people would party in the home even when the renters were not there (current renters)--I guess tons of people would just come and go as they please, partying in the home, whether or not the renters were there. Which would lend to the idea that the killer knew the lay out of the home if he partied in it.

Also, they just interviewed a previous resident who said the house is very old and creaky and squeaky and you could hear anyone walking at night. The question then became, why didn't the two other students who lived in the home and survive hear anything? A logical explanation could be that they were passed out drunk or high.

I heard of the Keddie Cabin murders. Crazy how it's still unsolved, but so many cases go unsolved.

[SF1900]

yup, great show.. I think they cancelled it...

I think so too. Sucks. Was a great show.

[Rambone]

This what I imagine the Idaho stabber looks like.

[wes]

lol 

[Dalnet]

Brutal, if true.

I could actually imagine that guy being a serial killer. That skateboard rant did it, for me.