Idaho stabbings…..

[youandme]

In all seriousness if the place was such a flop house then it's not implausible that his DNA could be present for any number of reasons. Sounds like people came and went from the house all the time.

Now if one of the girls fought back and scratched the guy and his DNA were collected from her nails.... it'd make for a stronger case.

Guy does have Ted Bundy vibes.

I’m thinking DNA from underneath nails or hair. Said victims fought back. Not sure how many actually got the chance to fight back since they were asleep when he stabbed them.

[wes]

Reminiscant of the Richard Speck case in some ways......as the girls were sleeping.

[funk51]

Someone stabbed 4 students in a house in Idaho. Two other people were in the home but were not attacked and ever stranger, were not awakened by the 4 other people being stabbed. The killer is still at large. I can’t imagine this being anything else but a targeted attack but why these 4 students? Maybe the work of a serial killer.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/university-idaho-students-killed-moscow.html

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/20/us/university-of-idaho-killings-sunday/index.html

    wow, that guy went to the same college as me.

[Dokey111]

    wow, that guy went to the same college as me.

.. then you're just as guilty

[SF1900]

This.

There's many unsolved cases where they have DNA stashed away that are being brought to light using this method. The Zodiac one is definitely in there for me from that stamp they have I think it was. Also others like The Doodler. There's been a lot of less well known murderers being caught since about 2017 where this technology is finally being used for cold cases successfully. Some of them didn't offend and became family men thinking they'd got away with it.

I am not too sure how this all works, but I assume via Genetic genealogy, they constructed a family tree. Looked at all living relatives, probably saw he was one of the youngest, lived in Washington, and then decided to track him. They realized he drove a white hyundai elantra, which was found captured by video, and BAM, they got him.

[funk51]

.. then you're just as guilty

   yup, ban colleges, at least that one.

[chaos]

Now if one of the girls fought back and scratched the guy and his DNA were collected from her nails.... it'd make for a stronger case.

This. We need some sort of convincing evidence from the police released. One day they were begging for the publics help, the next they arrested someone.

[Bevo]

Looks like a getbigger

Has a extremely punchable face, up there with david schwimmer

[SF1900]

What I’m wondering is how are peoples DNA winding up in databases without their consent? The only way this would work is to match the killers DNA against family. But what if family members never consented to have their DNA in a database to be used by cops?

Explain…

[King Shizzo]

What I’m wondering is how are peoples DNA winding up in databases without their consent? The only way this would work is to match the killers DNA against family. But what if family members never consented to have their DNA in a database to be used by cops?

Explain…

Honestly, who gives a shit in this specific matter. You can have my DNA, I have nothing to hide.

Actually, I would take a DNA bank over mandatory vaccines, anyway. Only criminals, would care about having DNA/fingerprints on file.

You object? You already have a social security number, driver's license,  registration etc.....

If you aren't a criminal, then you should see these measures as a help.

[GymnJuice]

Honestly, who gives a shit in this specific matter. You can have my DNA, I have nothing to hide.

Actually, I would take a DNA bank over mandatory vaccines, anyway. Only criminals, would care about having DNA/fingerprints on file.

You object? You already have a social security number, driver's license,  registration etc.....

If you aren't a criminal, then you should see these measures as a help.

Part of me wants to agree but I think the government is not to be trusted with this information.

[Primemuscle]

I submitted my DNA to Ancestry.com, Family Tree and other organizations when it was initially offered. There is nothing to hide,  no reason that I can see not to and there are many positives. A lot folks in my family also submitted their DNA. As a result, our mutual family histories have expanded greatly.

There is a lot of information about my family heritage because my ancestors were interested in this did and researched it and kept records. My grandfather was a member of the SAR and several of my aunts became members of the DAR.

My heritage is Irish, Scotch, English, French and Scandinavian. Some of my ancestors immigrated to America around the same time as the pilgrims. Obviously, at least a few fought in the American Revolution, hence the memberships in SAR and DAR. 

[Gym Rat]

I wouldn't submit DNA to any website or database. No, nothing to hide. But...
I just dont trust "human error". It has happened before. Labs fuck up, send others to jail or death-row.
(Couple of Forensic Files episodes on this).

Probably very rare, but humans are stupid, so...

[BB]

What I’m wondering is how are peoples DNA winding up in databases without their consent? The only way this would work is to match the killers DNA against family. But what if family members never consented to have their DNA in a database to be used by cops?

Explain…

First way they do it is run it through CODIS, which has prisoner DNA samples. Then they move to the private databases, a few smaller ones proactively agree to help the cops, it's in the fine print.

For the other big private databases, they upload a suspect's DNA sample to the genealogy part that many people voluntarily opt into hoping to find a long lost relative. Many times if they get a hit, they look for a family relation a few times removed to help "snitch"  on who it might be. Other times, they'll send a formal note that they found a family member, but it's long after they've already started an investigation, so technically they did help you find a long lost relation.

Can't find it now, but I read an article on the tricks they use to get around warrant requirements a few years ago, it was interesting.

[King Shizzo]

I wouldn't submit DNA to any website or database. No, nothing to hide. But...
I just dont trust "human error". It has happened before. Labs fuck up, send others to jail or death-row.
(Couple of Forensic Files episodes on this).

Probably very rare, but humans are stupid, so...

True, but advancements have made it so "human error" is almost non-existant (with evidence)

Then you have cases like Scott Peterson. No physical evidence whatsoever.  No fingerprints, no DNA, .......

The good guys, need these tools to catch the assholes.

Evil, knows no limits.

I actually think I'm on to something....I'm Sure it's already been thought of......

Actually, have you ever been to Game Stop? Or a Pawn shop? They make you take fingerprints.

Lol! They have their ways.

[Moontrane]

First way they do it is run it through CODIS, which has prisoner DNA samples. Then they move to the private databases, a few smaller ones proactively agree to help the cops, it's in the fine print.

For the other big private databases, they upload a suspect's DNA sample to the genealogy part that many people voluntarily opt into hoping to find a long lost relative. Many times if they get a hit, they look for a family relation a few times removed to help "snitch"  on who it might be. Other times, they'll send a formal note that they found a family member, but it's long after they've already started an investigation, so technically they did help you find a long lost relation.

Can't find it now, but I read an article on the tricks they use to get around warrant requirements a few years ago, it was interesting.

Yeah, pretty much, but no warrant required.  Authorities send in the DNA to 23&Me and Ancestry as a John Doe and toggle "seek all DNA relatives."  I have 2,000 DNA relatives on one of those sites, and a lot them use their real names.  Easy, peasy.

[SF1900]

I wouldn't submit DNA to any website or database. No, nothing to hide. But...
I just dont trust "human error". It has happened before. Labs fuck up, send others to jail or death-row.
(Couple of Forensic Files episodes on this).

Probably very rare, but humans are stupid, so...

Your DNA is likely in a database even without your consent.

[SF1900]

First way they do it is run it through CODIS, which has prisoner DNA samples. Then they move to the private databases, a few smaller ones proactively agree to help the cops, it's in the fine print.

For the other big private databases, they upload a suspect's DNA sample to the genealogy part that many people voluntarily opt into hoping to find a long lost relative. Many times if they get a hit, they look for a family relation a few times removed to help "snitch"  on who it might be. Other times, they'll send a formal note that they found a family member, but it's long after they've already started an investigation, so technically they did help you find a long lost relation.

Can't find it now, but I read an article on the tricks they use to get around warrant requirements a few years ago, it was interesting.

BB, thanks for explanation.

[Dave D]

True, but advancements have made it so "human error" is almost non-existant (with evidence)

Then you have cases like Scott Peterson. No physical evidence whatsoever.  No fingerprints, no DNA, .......

The good guys, need these tools to catch the assholes.

Evil, knows no limits.

I actually think I'm on to something....I'm Sure it's already been thought of......

Actually, have you ever been to Game Stop? Or a Pawn shop? They make you take fingerprints.

Lol! They have their ways.

Listen to yourself.

I’ve got nothing to hide, it’s for the better of society, get the vaccine how selfish are you, ban guns, blah, blah, blah, blah….

You’re saying to trust big tech because they will…. Find criminals? Protect us?

Dude just post your address and cell phone here if you’re so transparent and “brave”.

[Walter Sobchak]

I submitted my DNA to Ancestry.com, Family Tree and other organizations when it was initially offered. There is nothing to hide,  no reason that I can see not to and there are many positives. A lot folks in my family also submitted their DNA. As a result, our mutual family histories have expanded greatly.

There is a lot of information about my family heritage because my ancestors were interested in this did and researched it and kept records. My grandfather was a member of the SAR and several of my aunts became members of the DAR.

My heritage is Irish, Scotch, English, French and Scandinavian. Some of my ancestors immigrated to America around the same time as the pilgrims. Obviously, at least a few fought in the American Revolution, hence the memberships in SAR and DAR.

Thousands of men have submitted their DNA down your throat.

Disgusting old soggy phaggot.

[King Shizzo]

Listen to yourself.

I’ve got nothing to hide, it’s for the better of society, get the vaccine how selfish are you, ban guns, blah, blah, blah, blah….

You’re saying to trust big tech because they will…. Find criminals? Protect us?

Dude just post your address and cell phone here if you’re so transparent and “brave”.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Nice try at trolling. I actually think this could benefit society.

[Dave D]

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Nice try at trolling. I actually think this could benefit society.

I’m not trolling. You’re a threat to yourself. You consider yourself a deep thinker but you’re very simple minded. Which is a common problem for people like yourself.

What they should do is use genetic indicators for sociopaths, pedo’s, sexual or violent tendencies, drug addicts and alcoholic’s and eliminate them before they are born. Do it it for the benefit of society.

[King Shizzo]

I’m not trolling. You’re a threat to yourself. You consider yourself a deep thinker but you’re very simple minded. Which is a common problem for people like yourself.

What they should do is use genetic indicators for sociopaths, pedo’s, sexual or violent tendencies, drug addicts and alcoholic’s and eliminate them before they are born. Do it it for the benefit of society.

You would be left with Adam and Eve.

[Dave D]

You would be left with Adam and Eve.

They’re dead.

Anything to make society better. Evil and whatever.

[wes]

.. then you're just as guilty