Author Topic: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆 (maybe not)  (Read 15849 times)

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2023, 03:10:02 AM »
I cannot say that I blame Robinson for being upset but that still doesn't excuse him for not having prepared for the future (now) decades ago.  Mike Mentzer was even dumber and he was a white guy that made very good money for several years and somehow blew or snorted it all.  BGS.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2023, 03:38:00 AM »
I cannot say that I blame Robinson for being upset but that still doesn't excuse him for not having prepared for the future (now) decades ago.  Mike Mentzer was even dumber and he was a white guy that made very good money for several years and somehow blew or snorted it all.  BGS.
He doesn't deserve anything from anybody.
He's an old man now begging off gullible people.
Fact is he never had the intelligence to be a Business man like most others. He lived the bodybuilding beach bum Lifestyle till late in life when most with a brain moved away and got on with real life.
Fuck him.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2023, 03:46:00 AM »
I cannot say that I blame Robinson for being upset but that still doesn't excuse him for not having prepared for the future (now) decades ago.  Mike Mentzer was even dumber and he was a white guy that made very good money for several years and somehow blew or snorted it all.  BGS.

Stupid comes in many forms. Mentzer was clearly weak to let one fucking night in 1980 dictate the rest of his life in bitterness. 
Robinson's problem is that he's just not a very nice guy. It rubs off on people. If it's true about the gym locker thefts and creepy stealing behaviour: no doubt it got back to the judges back in the day as a niche industry like that everyone knew everyone especially back in those golden years. Who in their right mind would support someone that's a rumoured fucking thief by multiple sources? No wonder he tries the race card because it's always someone else's fault with these guys.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2023, 03:46:32 AM »
He doesn't deserve anything from anybody.
He's an old man now begging off gullible people.
Fact is he never had the intelligence to be a Business man like most others. He lived the bodybuilding beach bum Lifestyle till late in life when most with a brain moved away and got on with real life.
Fuck him.

Yup.  As I said, he failed to prepare for his future.  I think he's mostly upset with himself but the current "woke zeitgeist" just makes it easier for him to say everything that happened to him  and didn't happen for him is due to generic racism.

FTN.

Like my mother taught me, hindsight is 20/20 unless you've got your head up your ass.  That kind  of makes it hard to see anything but shit.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2023, 04:14:41 AM »
I think Weider was simply a hard Business man & definitely not racist.
I'm sure he made some decisions that were not always in the interest of some bodybuilders but what would Robby do in his place?
Bodybuilding was  seedy we all know that  :D

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2023, 04:24:09 AM »
 :D
He's spot on.


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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2023, 04:35:04 AM »
I believe that Robby Robinson served in Vietnam. After coming out of the Vietnam war, many of the men were mentally effected. They had a negative vision, and some never fully overcame that outlook. 

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2023, 05:16:28 AM »
I believe that Robby Robinson served in Vietnam. After coming out of the Vietnam war, many of the men were mentally effected. They had a negative vision, and some never fully overcame that outlook.
Maybe he's just a loser??
If he'd used Weider & others to his advantage he could've been living much more comfortable. Don't think it's anything to do with vietnam

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2023, 06:29:12 AM »
Maybe he's just a loser??
If he'd used Weider & others to his advantage he could've been living much more comfortable. Don't think it's anything to do with vietnam
He was stationed in the Dominican Republic for 2yrs and never saw action. Definitely nothing to do with Vietnam

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2023, 06:35:12 AM »
Maybe he's just a loser??
If he'd used Weider & others to his advantage he could've been living much more comfortable. Don't think it's anything to do with vietnam

He should have used the Weider Principles and used that mind-muscle connection like Arnold did. Visualise the pump in his mind. Turn fantasy into reality through projection of thought!

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2023, 06:45:24 AM »
I believe that Robby Robinson served in Vietnam. After coming out of the Vietnam war, many of the men were mentally effected. They had a negative vision, and some never fully overcame that outlook. 

He never did.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2023, 06:46:35 AM »
He never did.  I doubt he was ever was in the service.

He was in Vietnam is a DAV as well

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2023, 06:49:22 AM »
People talk about Ferrigno being an asshole, but Robbie's worse. He's just funnier than Lou -

The Robbie Robberson / Robbery Robinson nickname from Gold's years ago.

The snitching on Arnold during his Governor run years ago -

https://www.democracynow.org/2003/9/15/second_black_bodybuilder_claims_schwarzenegger_repeatedly / .

The "I'll sue if you use my pictures" debacle.

The send a dollar or I'm leaving scam -

https://fitnessvolt.com/robby-robinson-legend/ .

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2023, 06:53:59 AM »
Robbie used to claim he was stabbed with a bayonet years ago in Vietnam. Claimed the VC were going around bayoneting the war dead, and they stabbed him in the thigh, and he had to play dead to avoid being killed.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2023, 07:07:14 AM »
Robbie used to claim he was stabbed with a bayonet years ago in Vietnam. Claimed the VC were going around bayoneting the war dead, and they stabbed him in the thigh, and he had to play dead to avoid being killed.

Is there any truth to that?

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2023, 07:14:47 AM »
Is there any truth to that?

I don't know, it was a big selling point during the late 70's, 80's with him. That he was a quiet war hero veteran. No one pressed him on it, and it stopped being repeated after a while. I suppose if someone wanted to mess with him, they could ask the Gov for his DD214, but he's already 76, so I guess nobody cares if they even remember it at this point.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2023, 07:41:22 AM »
Ok, I remembered I have a copy of his book in my files. The bayoneting story is bullshit. Here's some important bits where he speaks about his time in the Army. Short version, never in Nam, bamboozled his way out of it with non-combat stuff -



"After infantry and then advanced infantry training at Fort Dix, New Jersey, and now a Specialist Fourth Class, I decided to go on to paratrooper school at Fort Benning, Georgia. I figured more training time would prepare me better and delay my deployment. We were told it would be to either Vietnam or the Dominican Republic."

"If my strong conviction not to go to Vietnam wasn’t enough, while I was away, antiwar sentiments were starting to brew and demonstrations around the country were in the news. I realized that we soldiers would be looked down upon because of the Vietnam War.

This had a huge effect on me. I knew I was on my way to Vietnam and that I might very possibly die there, yet I wouldn’t even get respect for dying for my country. My respect and grief for the guys who lost their lives strengthened my commitment to myself and my survival. I felt it was me against the world and you don’t entrust anyone with your life, so when the day to report back to the base come up, I didn’t show. I knew it would only give me a couple days.

Refusing to go back after my leave time, I lost a stripe, and half a month’s pay as well as being given battalion clean-up duty and KP for a month. I didn’t regret it. I liked having a little more say over my fate. Returning late caused me to miss my group’s deployment to Vietnam, and I was sent to The Dominican Republic for a six-month non-combat tour of duty."

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"Out on maneuvers, my job was a deuce mortar assistant gunner, setting elevations and dropping ammunition. Our only concern was an erratic round could fall short and take out your own men. I lost the hearing in my right ear as a result of my job. This didn’t get an early discharge for me, because when I was sent home from the Dominican, my time served was two-years and 20 days.

I had fulfilled by two-year draft requirement and couldn’t be sent to Vietnam. This left a bittersweet feeling in me. I felt lucky and relieved, but guilty that I’d slipped through while so many didn’t and lost their lives."

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2023, 07:50:05 AM »
Ok, I remembered I have a copy of his book in my files. The bayoneting story is bullshit. Here's some important bits where he speaks about his time in the Army. Short version, never in Nam, bamboozled his way out of it with non-combat stuff -



"After infantry and then advanced infantry training at Fort Dix, New Jersey, and now a Specialist Fourth Class, I decided to go on to paratrooper school at Fort Benning, Georgia. I figured more training time would prepare me better and delay my deployment. We were told it would be to either Vietnam or the Dominican Republic."

"If my strong conviction not to go to Vietnam wasn’t enough, while I was away, antiwar sentiments were starting to brew and demonstrations around the country were in the news. I realized that we soldiers would be looked down upon because of the Vietnam War.

This had a huge effect on me. I knew I was on my way to Vietnam and that I might very possibly die there, yet I wouldn’t even get respect for dying for my country. My respect and grief for the guys who lost their lives strengthened my commitment to myself and my survival. I felt it was me against the world and you don’t entrust anyone with your life, so when the day to report back to the base come up, I didn’t show. I knew it would only give me a couple days.

Refusing to go back after my leave time, I lost a stripe, and half a month’s pay as well as being given battalion clean-up duty and KP for a month. I didn’t regret it. I liked having a little more say over my fate. Returning late caused me to miss my group’s deployment to Vietnam, and I was sent to The Dominican Republic for a six-month non-combat tour of duty."

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"Out on maneuvers, my job was a deuce mortar assistant gunner, setting elevations and dropping ammunition. Our only concern was an erratic round could fall short and take out your own men. I lost the hearing in my right ear as a result of my job. This didn’t get an early discharge for me, because when I was sent home from the Dominican, my time served was two-years and 20 days.

I had fulfilled by two-year draft requirement and couldn’t be sent to Vietnam. This left a bittersweet feeling in me. I felt lucky and relieved, but guilty that I’d slipped through while so many didn’t and lost their lives."

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That's fucked up if true making up being a DAV who was in country. Stolen valor  :-\

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2023, 08:06:56 AM »
BB, thanks for the info. Interesting. Had no idea Robby had a book.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2023, 08:19:02 AM »
BB, thanks for the info. Interesting. Had no idea Robby had a book.

Most of us had no idea he could write.   ;D

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2023, 08:24:46 AM »
Ok, I remembered I have a copy of his book in my files. The bayoneting story is bullshit. Here's some important bits where he speaks about his time in the Army. Short version, never in Nam, bamboozled his way out of it with non-combat stuff -



"After infantry and then advanced infantry training at Fort Dix, New Jersey, and now a Specialist Fourth Class, I decided to go on to paratrooper school at Fort Benning, Georgia. I figured more training time would prepare me better and delay my deployment. We were told it would be to either Vietnam or the Dominican Republic."

"If my strong conviction not to go to Vietnam wasn’t enough, while I was away, antiwar sentiments were starting to brew and demonstrations around the country were in the news. I realized that we soldiers would be looked down upon because of the Vietnam War.

This had a huge effect on me. I knew I was on my way to Vietnam and that I might very possibly die there, yet I wouldn’t even get respect for dying for my country. My respect and grief for the guys who lost their lives strengthened my commitment to myself and my survival. I felt it was me against the world and you don’t entrust anyone with your life, so when the day to report back to the base come up, I didn’t show. I knew it would only give me a couple days.

Refusing to go back after my leave time, I lost a stripe, and half a month’s pay as well as being given battalion clean-up duty and KP for a month. I didn’t regret it. I liked having a little more say over my fate. Returning late caused me to miss my group’s deployment to Vietnam, and I was sent to The Dominican Republic for a six-month non-combat tour of duty."

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"Out on maneuvers, my job was a deuce mortar assistant gunner, setting elevations and dropping ammunition. Our only concern was an erratic round could fall short and take out your own men. I lost the hearing in my right ear as a result of my job. This didn’t get an early discharge for me, because when I was sent home from the Dominican, my time served was two-years and 20 days.

I had fulfilled by two-year draft requirement and couldn’t be sent to Vietnam. This left a bittersweet feeling in me. I felt lucky and relieved, but guilty that I’d slipped through while so many didn’t and lost their lives."

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Bottom line is he was a coward.
If the Vietnam war was justified or not is irrelevant. He just wanted to save his own ass.
I find his excuses for not going are just pathetic especially mentioning the men who went to Vietnam & died.
So to recap..
A coward
A thief
A begger

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2023, 08:27:39 AM »
Looking at all the evidence I would bet that Joe & Ben Weider knew his history & character.
There you go...

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2023, 01:28:58 AM »
Most of us had no idea he could write.   ;D
I'm sure a ghost writer was used. When I was a kid I thought all of those athletes that had books actually wrote them all by themselves. Then I would see them on TV interviews and they could barely make intelligible grunts. ;D

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2023, 01:58:39 AM »
Most of us had no idea he could write.   ;D

LOOOOL.

Thanks for the post, BB. You sure know your stuff. I didn't know he had one out, either.

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Re: Robby Robinson is a national treasure 🏆 (maybe not)
« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2023, 05:54:49 AM »
Robby say's he wasn't really friends with Arnold but I used to see Robby, Arnold and a few others together at the beach in Venice all the time.