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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2023, 03:50:19 PM »
How do companies like this protect themselves?

If you have 5 million in the bank do you just open 20 separate accounts?

Silicon Valley marketed themselves well to all the start ups and tech companies from around 2016-recently. Some of the smarter ones did just what you described, multiple $250,000 accounts, Vimeo was one of these. Roku, Etsy, Roblox(Minecraft), and a few others just seemed to let it ride, and they're all playing a game of who can get their money out the fastest now.

This video, basic explains it exactly like Mayday did, the interesting part is SVB growth chart at 1:30-2 minutes in -

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That massive jump between 2019-2022 has to crush something when it comes down.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2023, 04:15:51 PM »
Having your property worth 50% more than 2020 not working for you yet?

Billions go into Ukraine which is Fed back to the govt senate and business ties but you draw the line at a measly few billion for plebs?

I’m not having a dig but it shows how much the wealthy have brainwashed us plebs into thinking bailing out the plebs is the cause of all our woes.
Agreed. I think they have no choice but to bail it out. I don’t think it will stop what’s coming though.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2023, 07:56:03 PM »
Agreed. I think they have no choice but to bail it out. I don’t think it will stop what’s coming though.

It’s not meant to stop, it’s meant to create reason.

We need a reason for the 2nd inflationary wave. Hence the US senate laying groundwork that it’s about jobs because the govt will claim the Fed is incompetent and then blast trillions in fiscal spending which allows inflation to go higher.

The 2nd wave is going to be the one which utterly wrecks People, especially those thinking a property collapse is coming because we have rate cuts on the horizon and the largest stimmy of our generation which will send prices higher before they can collapse.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2023, 10:34:52 PM »
Silicon Valley marketed themselves well to all the start ups and tech companies from around 2016-recently. Some of the smarter ones did just what you described, multiple $250,000 accounts, Vimeo was one of these. Roku, Etsy, Roblox(Minecraft), and a few others just seemed to let it ride, and they're all playing a game of who can get their money out the fastest now.

This video, basic explains it exactly like Mayday did, the interesting part is SVB growth chart at 1:30-2 minutes in -

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That massive jump between 2019-2022 has to crush something when it comes down.

A company like Roku probably goes through a million everyday in just operating expenses. Do you think they pay those bills via multiple bank accounts?

Think of Roku’s monthly payroll, would they have all these different banks making those payments?

Or would a company that size or larger (Walmart/Amazon) have a different method of dispersing funds?

This is something I’ve always wondered.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2023, 04:31:46 AM »
Silicon Valley Bank exec was Lehman Brothers CFO prior to 2008 collapse

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/silicon-valley-bank-exec-lehman-000556735.html

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2023, 05:59:20 AM »
Why not?

If the good people of Getbig have funds in these banks would you not want them to be made
Whole? A bailout would help us plebs from losing money.

I really go back and forth on the bailout aspect. I am all for the government trying to strong arm one of the big banks to purchase SVB in its entirety, but as far as Congress passing special legislation to protect uninsured deposits for one particular bank (if a full purchase cannot be arranged) I think I am a NO. Are we now going to run around and protect every failing bank and banker at tax payer expense?

But maybe it is time to think about raising FDIC protection to more than $250,000 given that so many companies keep all of their payroll money at one isolated bank.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2023, 07:23:14 AM »
Occupy Silicon Valley

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2023, 07:57:13 AM »
It’s not meant to stop, it’s meant to create reason.

We need a reason for the 2nd inflationary wave. Hence the US senate laying groundwork that it’s about jobs because the govt will claim the Fed is incompetent and then blast trillions in fiscal spending which allows inflation to go higher.

The 2nd wave is going to be the one which utterly wrecks People, especially those thinking a property collapse is coming because we have rate cuts on the horizon and the largest stimmy of our generation which will send prices higher before they can collapse.

Jobs report last week said jobs are at an all time high. They are going to raise interest rates more to combat what they are describing as decades of inflationary pressure.

Real estate has to come crashing soon. Real estate agents are still marketing properties at 2020 levels, then the appraisal is done and banks reject lending based on the appraisal.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2023, 08:21:15 AM »
I'm no economist but these assholes shut down the world for 2 years and handed out a bunch of "free money."  Now we have inflation and banks are failing. Whodathunkit.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2023, 08:51:56 AM »
I’ll give some background.

What has happened to SVB is an ongoing risk to smaller banks up during an inflationary period meaning this will linger on for many years.

2020-22 people deposited oodles of money in banks. Banks purchased govt 2yr-10yr treasuries with those deposits. treasury price goes up if rates fall, treasury price goes down if rates rise.

So these banks Bought a stack of treasuries paying 0.5%. Today it’s 3.5% meaning the price has fallen considerably vs 2021. Now, it’s ok providing nobody wants their money and you can hold out for maturity. However, if people want their money (which is what has happened) the banks must sell their treasuries on the market. Because they have 0.5% treasuries vs 3.5% it’s discounted heavily and they no longer can cover their deposits.

This hasn’t been a problem for over a decade with falling rates making the treasury more valuable. In an inflationary cycle we do the reverse. Rates rise for years making the price of treasuries less valuable over time and therefore a risk on asset for a bank if you get a run on deposits.


The whole system is ass backwards. You don’t put money in the bank so they can lend it out. You do so to warehouse the money, no different from leaving you car in a public garage.

So you shouldn’t get paid interest. You should have to pay a fee.

Currently, you put your money in the bank and you have no idea what the fuck the bank is doing. That’s why you need all this deposit insurance.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2023, 08:58:59 AM »
Silicon Valley Bank exec was Lehman Brothers CFO prior to 2008 collapse

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/silicon-valley-bank-exec-lehman-000556735.html

This guy was able to get another job in an executive role? Isn’t FINRA supposed to be making sure things like this don’t happen?

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2023, 09:33:40 AM »
This guy was able to get another job in an executive role? Isn’t FINRA supposed to be making sure things like this don’t happen?

The supposed reason for the FTX fail was a lack of regulation. The excuse here will be that we need even more regulation.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2023, 10:53:48 AM »
The supposed reason for the FTX fail was a lack of regulation. The excuse here will be that we need even more regulation.

LOL.

It's funny that a self regulating organization like FINRA is supposed to be the ever present "eyes and ears" safeguarding the securities and banking industry BUT they let clowns hold prominent roles over and over again.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2023, 01:13:53 PM »
LOL.

It's funny that a self regulating organization like FINRA is supposed to be the ever present "eyes and ears" safeguarding the securities and banking industry BUT they let clowns hold prominent roles over and over again.

Anyone with something on the ball wants to work in the private. So, you always have second rate people at these agencies.

Regulatory capture is inevitable, because the benefits of cooperation are greater than those of confrontation.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2023, 01:25:05 PM »
Silly Value Bank is raciss.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2023, 01:43:52 PM »
Jobs report last week said jobs are at an all time high. They are going to raise interest rates more to combat what they are describing as decades of inflationary pressure.

Real estate has to come crashing soon. Real estate agents are still marketing properties at 2020 levels, then the appraisal is done and banks reject lending based on the appraisal.

US unemployment got an uptick to 3.6%. The Fed is targeting 4.5%. We need to see UE rise across consecutive months to ensure a trend is established. Fed will raise rates along with rising UE which makes it worse of course.

Nein! There is fuck all supply of property available for sale and occupation.
1) fix interest mortgages are holding and not selling = no rush for exits
2) largest equity of home owners in decade = majority are flush with equity and comfortable
3) average build time went from 6mths to 18mths = supply is drip Fed to market = no excess supply

A property cool-down, yes, but only from areas that have boomed 50%+ which means the pullback is still well ahead of 2020 pandemic price.  Commodity price inflation and lack of labour is what floats property prices. Average Joe will be utterly wrecked whilst yelling ‘but but but but it can’t!’.

FWIW I picked the inflation play when the pandemic hit and took max risk on property which would make your eyeballs bleed. I picked the first growth price for the next sale in my estate to the dollar (nobody believed me when I said it in advance). I gave my brother in law his house value for 2021 and 2022 a year in advance, even when I got 2021 right and gave him 2022 nobody believed me. I got the land sale prices right in my estate when the auction happened and again, nobody believed me.

The first real test is IR peak. I have 5.5% May. If I’m ballpark right then the strategy is still correct and my price guide continues.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2023, 03:05:06 PM »
Early in the Covid scam you had a tech bubble predicated on the idea that “Everything has changed.” Money poured into stocks that were supposedly the leaders for this new era, the ARKK stocks. The chick who runs this ETF Kathie Wood was hailed as a genius. If you ever hear her, she has a very annoying pretentious sounding voice.

The story, much like everything else about Covid was bullshit and these stock plummeted. My guess is this bank funded a lot of these companies and is on the hook for bad loans:


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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2023, 04:56:25 PM »
NY’s Signature bank was just closed by regulators.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2023, 05:45:04 PM »
NY’s Signature bank was just closed by regulators.

Fed announced backstop. Futures rise sharply.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2023, 08:35:20 PM »

The whole system is ass backwards. You don’t put money in the bank so they can lend it out. You do so to warehouse the money, no different from leaving you car in a public garage.

So you shouldn’t get paid interest. You should have to pay a fee.

Currently, you put your money in the bank and you have no idea what the fuck the bank is doing. That’s why you need all this deposit insurance.
That's why we need crypto on private wallets. My crypto is locked on exchanges which are no different than having your money in a bank account. Once it is unlocked I need to move it off the exchanges

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2023, 10:25:09 PM »
As of tonight 3/12/23

You voted for it..you know who you are. Too fucking stupid to vote

“Regulators Announce Closure of NY’s Signature Bank, Which Held Significant Crypto Stakes”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/regulators-announce-closure-of-nys-signature-bank-which-held-significant-crypto-stakes_5117763.html


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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2023, 03:36:49 AM »
Could brokerage accounts be at risk? Investments at Schwab, for example?

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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2023, 04:50:15 AM »
This looks like the sort of bank that looked down its nose at credit unions and their members.

My local credit union may not be flashy or woke, but it's opening as usual this morning. 


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Re: Silicon Valley Bhanks taken over by regulators
« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2023, 04:59:53 AM »
There's always a Black Swan event that comes out of nowhere to cause the next financial meltdown.

It seems to come out of nowhere but in reality was staring you in the face all along.

Will this be it?