NO BULLSHIT TRAINING THREAD..........JUST TRAINING !

[38 returns]

I am actually familiar with that study. There is a difference between general aas and testosterone they do not all effect collagen the same way. Winstrol and Deca and Test are not the same. Also while testosterone has a positive correlation initially with collagen synthesis at normal dosages it does not at supraphysiological levels it has an inverse relationship or at least that is what we are seeing n the real world different theories are below. But we know supra levels of test are very dangerous for tendons that is one reason you want to stack with other compounds.

You also start getting into issue of the quality of the structure of the collagen in the tendon and ligaments. I have read studies indicating differences in the physical structure produced between different compounds sometimes it appears cross sectional integrity is lost with additional size and volume. There may be a lot of factors going on here.

Speaking of volume also know that it takes more volume to get blood into tendons and ligaments and connective tissue.  I do not want a quick testosterone pump on low reps. I want to work it into the joint with high reps. With too much test you get too much blood pump into the muscle before the tendon is really pumped.

We do not know everything yet but to be cautious for tendons at this point is would be best to reduce testosterone consumption during healing and to stack with other compounds if blasting. Additionally, to increase volume when training connective tissue like tendons and ligaments that need collagen and have low blood flow.

Take a look at this section of their study

Effect of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids on Tendons
A widely reported side effect of AAS use is an increased risk of tendon rupture.68,69 Two hypotheses are often described in the literature: (1) AASs have no direct effect on tendons but can induce muscular hypertrophy and increased muscle strength, without associated tendon strengthening, resulting in an increased risk for rupture, or (2) that AASs, in combination with physical exertion, have a deleterious effect on tendon structure and healing.28,69 Preclinical studies in rodents have suggested that AAS use may negatively affect collagen synthesis and matrix metalloproteinase activity, which are both involved in tendon repair and homeostasis.70,71 However, as a recent review noted, investigations to date have produced inconsistent results, and it is still unclear how AASs influence tendons.69


I want to stay relatively small and weak muscularly so I can improve from a tendon and ligament strength point first. I do not want my pec to outpace my pec tendon right now. Stay small work on quality collagen synthesis and ligament and tendons then blow up on quantity in a few months

Does that make sense?

you've achieved the relatively small and weak muscularity thing every day fo rth elast 4 years. so it was a deliberate ruse to look like shit then? playing hte long game. good mve grasshopper.

[IroNat]

Leg extensions - 4x20
Leg curls - 4x8-10
Squats - 4x10
Seated calf raise - 5x10-15

Bench press to neck - 4x10
superset
Triangle bar lat pulldown - 4x10

Db lateral raises - 4x10
Wrist roller - 6 times both ways
Ab wheel

[joswift]

I want to stay relatively small and weak muscularly so I can improve from a tendon and ligament strength point first. I do not want my pec to outpace my pec tendon right now. Stay small work on quality collagen synthesis and ligament and tendons then blow up on quantity in a few months

Does that make sense?

thats should be a breeze for you.....

[38 returns]

Leg extensions - 4x20
Leg curls - 4x8-10
Squats - 4x10
Seated calf raise - 5x10-15

Bench press to neck - 4x10
superset
Triangle bar lat pulldown - 4x10

Db lateral raises - 4x10
Wrist roller - 6 times both ways
Ab wheel

nice one mate!

[WrongAdvices]

dont read this the minute you see 'actually' its a lie

brian

3 jail terms 2 countries


liar

the great thing is womens groups from law firms are being sent links to this site. as are lgbt groups form those law schools.

perhaps calling people 'guys isnt the best ting to do brian.

Is there any group he doesn't offend constantly?  Although the most offensive, vile and disgusting thing I've heard him say recently was this about his own "wife":

[Hulkotron]

Squats 3 sets, 225x5, 185x10, 135x20
Knee extensions 4 sets
Lunges 4 sets
Standing calf raises 4 sets
Front squats 3 sets

Might start working on my 20-rep squat again, I've always "enjoyed" high-rep squats.

[wes]

Leg extensions - 4x20
Leg curls - 4x8-10
Squats - 4x10
Seated calf raise - 5x10-15

Bench press to neck - 4x10
superset
Triangle bar lat pulldown - 4x10

Db lateral raises - 4x10
Wrist roller - 6 times both ways
Ab wheel

Good one bro Nat !! 

Squats 3 sets, 225x5, 185x10, 135x20
Knee extensions 4 sets
Lunges 4 sets
Standing calf raises 4 sets
Front squats 3 sets

Might start working on my 20-rep squat again, I've always "enjoyed" high-rep squats.

Nice one Hulk !!

[robcguns]

10 sets low cable rows 4 plates sets of 15
Superset
10 sets 2 arm db curls 35s sets of 20

10 sets jm smith press 225 sets of 20-30.
Superset
10 sets pull ups 10,9,8,7,6,6,5,5,4,3

10 sets push downs
Superset
10 sets 2 arm hammer curls 45s sets of 20

5 sets an wheel sets of 10

[bhank]

HA HA HA "I am familiar with that study"....yet you can't produce the one where they talk about high testosterone and collagen only quote that one where is a fucking theory.  Also...rats....fucking rats

You quoted a section which has TWO HYPOTHESIS....and then you even quoted the last part about inconsistent results which shoots your comments right in the shitter.

Also, you threw the term "supraphysiological levels"....being that the normal range of test is 300 - 1000....tell us all how you are beyond that upper threshold level with only being on "TRT" (i.e. the definition of supraqphysiological level)

Try and explain yourself out of that one Brian

I have thoroughly explained things if you don't get it or disagree fine with me. Start arguing about type 1 and 3 collogen if it suits you I am telling you what I am doing and my logic. You do you

[38 returns]

I have thoroughly explained things if you don't get it or disagree fine with me

this means he doesnt have a fuckng clue.


again

[IroNat]

10 sets low cable rows 4 plates sets of 15
Superset
10 sets 2 arm db curls 35s sets of 20

10 sets jm smith press 225 sets of 20-30.
Superset
10 sets pull ups 10,9,8,7,6,6,5,5,4,3

10 sets push downs
Superset
10 sets 2 arm hammer curls 45s sets of 20

5 sets an wheel sets of 10

robc was doing 10 sets but then did 5 sets.
I find this curiously inconsistent.

[robcguns]

robc was doing 10 sets but then did 5 sets.
I find this curiously inconsistent.

Abs aren’t important to me just enough to stay flat and keep some strength.

[tatoo]

legs

squat machine... 4 sets

leg curl....6 sets

hacks....2 sets 25 reps

seated calf raise... 5 sets to fail.. ddnt count reps

[chaos]

Might start working on my 20-rep squat again, I've always "enjoyed" high-rep squats.

Something wrong with you.

[BigRo]

Something wrong with you.

Mental disorder, I must get back in to them.

[chaos]

Mental disorder, I must get back in to them.

At no point in my life have I ever "enjoyed" high rep squats. High rep deads, sure.

[illuminati]

At no point in my life have I ever "enjoyed" high rep squats. High rep deads, sure.

Off topic question
As a Mod can you set up a fight between Hankins & 38 & whoever turns it down
or makes 101 excuses etc is permanently banned from Getbig.

As 38 has tried multiple times & offered to pay for Bianca's flights etc to no avail.
We just want an end to the constant threats of violence from Bianca & then runs away
With pathetic excuses.

Put an end to this Fucking stupid nonsense pls.

[chaos]

Off topic question
As a Mod can you set up a fight between Hankins & 38 & whoever turns it down
or makes 101 excuses etc is permanently banned from Getbig.

As 38 has tried multiple times & offered to pay for Bianca's flights etc to no avail.
We just want an end to the constant threats of violence from Bianca & then runs away
With pathetic excuses.

Put an end to this Fucking stupid nonsense pls.

bhank is obviously not the tough guy in real life that he wants to portray on getbig. He doesn't care about his friends or family. His only concern and thoughts are about himself. I assume you guys are right and his wife has left him over getbig, but he can't step away because he's addicted to the attention. Nobody is going to drive him off getbig.
Being an annoying twat isn't enough for Ron to throw down a permaban.
I think someone has to "talk" to him in real life.

[IroNat]

Bhanky,
Can you comment on your marriage failing and Em leaving you?

[Krankenstein]

I have thoroughly explained things if you don't get it or disagree fine with me. Start arguing about type 1 and 3 collogen if it suits you I am telling you what I am doing and my logic. You do you

Please direct me to where you "thoroughly explained things".

I get it, which is why I posted the RELEVANT study.  Then you talked out of your ass about supraphysiologic levels of test.  How are you exceeding 1000 with JUST TRT??

You also are playing your tired and worn out game of accusing me of "arguing".  I am telling you that you know next to nothing about how things ACTUALLY work.  You default to lines like that when you can't come up with an intelligent response.

Try again numb nuts.

[bhank]

bhank is obviously not the tough guy in real life that he wants to portray on getbig. He doesn't care about his friends or family. His only concern and thoughts are about himself. I assume you guys are right and his wife has left him over getbig, but he can't step away because he's addicted to the attention. Nobody is going to drive him off getbig.
Being an annoying twat isn't enough for Ron to throw down a permaban.
I think someone has to "talk" to him in real life.

I hope it is you Chaos I hope you are the dumbfuck who finds out

[bhank]

Bhanky,
Can you comment on your marriage failing and Em leaving you?

Well I do have a kids bench press set up in the living room that she isnt thrilled about. She also isn't happy I passed out early last night. However, I do have a pot of coffee ready for her when she wakes up so it should be ok.

[bhank]

Off topic question
As a Mod can you set up a fight between Hankins & 38 & whoever turns it down
or makes 101 excuses etc is permanently banned from Getbig.

As 38 has tried multiple times & offered to pay for Bianca's flights etc to no avail.
We just want an end to the constant threats of violence from Bianca & then runs away
With pathetic excuses.

Put an end to this Fucking stupid nonsense pls.

If 38 wants to fight me he knows where to find me. For fuck sake the entire board knows where to find me. If anyone has a fucking problem with me come see me.

[joswift]

Well I do have a kids bench press set up in the living room that she isnt thrilled about. She also isn't happy I passed out early last night. However, I do have a pot of coffee ready for her when she wakes up so it should be ok.

Introduces the "I passed out" to take things away from him taking it up the ass

[38 returns]

Introduces the "I passed out" to take things away from him taking it up the ass

ooooh so that explains why he ran away yesterday

seems plausible and not a lyin brian special




BRIAN re fighting you know i cant come to your country stop pretending you are fighting anyone ever. you cant fight sleep you big fanny.