Hunter charges with federal crimes

[chaos]

So what you are really saying is that more background checks and restrictions are needed?

Who gives a shit where he threw it? 

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Douglas Berman, a professor of law at Ohio State University and a sentencing expert, read the court papers unsealed Tuesday morning and said that it was difficult to assess from the filings whether Biden received a sweetheart deal.

The crimes to which Biden is pleading guilty, Berman said, are ones that the average person is rarely prosecuted for because they are usually only brought along with more serious offenses.

In Biden’s case, they include a charge stemming from lying about drug use on the government form used for his purchase of a handgun. Current and former officials say tens of thousands of Americans, out of the 25 million who buy guns each year, lie on their forms and are not prosecuted.
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Maybe try another excuse?  Your current one isn't really cutting it.

Dumbass. What I'm saying is the two tiered justice system (liberals vs everyone else) needs to stop and people need to be held accountable fairly and justly.

You are correct that is the fine and the possible sentence. Funny how almost nobody is fined or imprisoned for breaking this law. Why, because it is darn hard to prove someone intentionally lied. Trump should be happy about the lying to the Feds part... at this point, it looks like he needs all the breaks he can get.

If he could only keep his lies straight... guess this speaks to the topic of his being too old and crazy for the job he aspires to.

Can you answer anything about a Biden without mentioning Trump?

[Agnostic007]

Dumbass. What I'm saying is the two tiered justice system (liberals vs everyone else) needs to stop and people need to be held accountable fairly and justly.
Can you answer anything about a Biden without mentioning Trump?

Just going back to the 60's.. the 2 tiered justice system wasn't really about liberals... Many much smarter than you or I would say it's laughable for Republicans to complain about a 2 tiered system.

[chaos]

Just going back to the 60's.. the 2 tiered justice system wasn't really about liberals... Many much smarter than you or I would say it's laughable for Republicans to complain about a 2 tiered system.

Have you considered that everyone should be complaining about our public servants having their own set of rules? Partisan buttsucking aside, I know you were a slave to the state but you should have enough common sense to see right and wrong in the way the laws are applied.

[Agnostic007]

Have you considered that everyone should be complaining about our public servants having their own set of rules? Partisan buttsucking aside, I know you were a slave to the state but you should have enough common sense to see right and wrong in the way the laws are applied.

Considered it? I applaud it.

[Coach is Back!]

Just going back to the 60's.. the 2 tiered justice system wasn't really about liberals... Many much smarter than you or I would say it's laughable for Republicans to complain about a 2 tiered system.

Ok, let’s try this angle. The very same “gun control” laws that Biden is pushing is one of the very same laws his kid got away with. Part of his plea deal was a diversion deal, basically probation, if he doesn’t violate his probation, he’s gets to buy and carry again. If this you I, we’d more than likely be in prison with a felony attached and never to be able to purchase a firearm again.

[Agnostic007]

Ok, let’s try this angle. The very same “gun control” laws that Biden is pushing is one of the very same laws his kid got away with. Part of his plea deal was a diversion deal, basically probation, if he doesn’t violate his probation, he’s gets to buy and carry again. If this you I, we’d more than likely be in prison with a felony attached and never to be able to purchase a firearm again.

Do you have any stats on sentences for very similar offenses? I don't. If you have stats that show the majority of people who do the same thing get a prison sentence I wouldn't argue it.But generally, some laws aren't enforced or prosecuted unless they are tied in with other charges. What's the reality based on available statistics?

[Coach is Back!]

Do you have any stats on sentences for very similar offenses? I don't. If you have stats that show the majority of people who do the same thing get a prison sentence I wouldn't argue it.But generally, some laws aren't enforced or prosecuted unless they are tied in with other charges. What's the reality based on available statistics?

Federal crime

[LurkerNoMore]

Dumbass. What I'm saying is the two tiered justice system (liberals vs everyone else) needs to stop and people need to be held accountable fairly and justly.

No, that is NOT what you were talking about.

Here is the reply you gave me.

Really? Have you ever purchased a gun?
The penalty is something like $250,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. On top of that, you don't get your gun and your forfeit the money you paid for it. Yet, the presidents drug addict kid was able to get his gun and throw it in a trash can.

Not a single thing in there references a two tier system.  Instead, what is in that reply is exactly what I answered twice (3x now.)

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Douglas Berman, a professor of law at Ohio State University and a sentencing expert, read the court papers unsealed Tuesday morning and said that it was difficult to assess from the filings whether Biden received a sweetheart deal.

The crimes to which Biden is pleading guilty, Berman said, are ones that the average person is rarely prosecuted for because they are usually only brought along with more serious offenses.

In Biden’s case, they include a charge stemming from lying about drug use on the government form used for his purchase of a handgun. Current and former officials say tens of thousands of Americans, out of the 25 million who buy guns each year, lie on their forms and are not prosecuted.
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According to that, Hunter is being treated fairly as anyone else.  Anyone else would cope a plea too. 

[LurkerNoMore]

Ok, let’s try this angle. The very same “gun control” laws that Biden is pushing is one of the very same laws his kid got away with. Part of his plea deal was a diversion deal, basically probation, if he doesn’t violate his probation, he’s gets to buy and carry again. If this you I, we’d more than likely be in prison with a felony attached and never to be able to purchase a firearm again.

Not unless you had some priors first.  Or a shitty lawyer that didn't represent you well enough to get a plea deal.

If you are worried about the "gun control" laws that Biden is allegedly pushing, then you would be taking the deal as a win for the current status quo.

Of course you are not smart enough to do that, so....

[The Gov]

Exactly.   

These trials are going to be so much fun to watch.   Good times!

The low IQ dumb bitch highlight of his life for the year so far

[chaos]

No, that is NOT what you were talking about.

Here is the reply you gave me.

Not a single thing in there references a two tier system.  Instead, what is in that reply is exactly what I answered twice (3x now.)

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Douglas Berman, a professor of law at Ohio State University and a sentencing expert, read the court papers unsealed Tuesday morning and said that it was difficult to assess from the filings whether Biden received a sweetheart deal.

The crimes to which Biden is pleading guilty, Berman said, are ones that the average person is rarely prosecuted for because they are usually only brought along with more serious offenses.

In Biden’s case, they include a charge stemming from lying about drug use on the government form used for his purchase of a handgun. Current and former officials say tens of thousands of Americans, out of the 25 million who buy guns each year, lie on their forms and are not prosecuted.
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According to that, Hunter is being treated fairly as anyone else.  Anyone else would cope a plea too.

Geezus Krist, I forgot you were a retarded liberal fuckwad. Next time I'll write in a crayon for you, dipshit.

[Dos Equis]

Geezus Krist, I forgot you were a retarded liberal fuckwad. Next time I'll write in a crayon for you, dipshit.

 

And there is this:

"The average sentence for tax fraud offenders was 16 months.
• 68.7% were sentenced to prison."

https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/quick-facts/Tax_Fraud_FY20.pdf?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Unless you are a Democrat and your last name is Biden.

[Coach is Back!]

Not unless you had some priors first.  Or a shitty lawyer that didn't represent you well enough to get a plea deal.

If you are worried about the "gun control" laws that Biden is allegedly pushing, then you would be taking the deal as a win for the current status quo.

Of course you are not smart enough to do that, so....

We didn’t “win” anything. What this still means is, after two years if he doesn’t violate the term of his “probation” which part of it is, No drugs, no alcohol and violate any part of the “probation” he gets his record expunged and gets to buy and carry a firearm again and would avoid jail time. Meaning, if that fucker even has a glass of wine on Air Force One he technically violated the terms and conditions of his probation. I would love to see those terms and conditions, but would it really matter? No!

If this were anyone else, we would at the VERY LEAST not be able to have a firearm in my possession, in my home, in my business or anywhere for the rest of my life. If I were (or anyone) were even to get caught at a gun range, we would be re-arrested

[LurkerNoMore]

Geezus Krist, I forgot you were a retarded liberal fuckwad. Next time I'll write in a crayon for you, dipshit.

Write what you wish, it isn't changing facts and the facts are not supporting your narrative.

[LurkerNoMore]

We didn’t “win” anything. What this still means is, after two years if he doesn’t violate the term of his “probation” which part of it is, No drugs, no alcohol and violate any part of the “probation” he gets his record expunged and gets to buy and carry a firearm again and would avoid jail time. Meaning, if that fucker even has a glass of wine on Air Force One he technically violated the terms and conditions of his probation. I would love to see those terms and conditions, but would it really matter? No!

If this were anyone else, we would at the VERY LEAST not be able to have a firearm in my possession, in my home, in my business or anywhere for the rest of my life. If I were (or anyone) were even to get caught at a gun range, we would be re-arrested

If he completes his probation then you can't complain.  If you find yourself in the same situation then I would suggest you get a competent lawyer and plead out as well.   

[Coach is Back!]

If he completes his probation then you can't complain.  If you find yourself in the same situation then I would suggest you get a competent lawyer and plead out as well.   

I’m not stupid enough to put myself in that situation. If I was, I would be in prison

[Agnostic007]

I’m not stupid enough to put myself in that situation. If I was, I would be in prison

I think you give yourself too much credit. You still think the election stolen.

[Coach is Back!]

I think you give yourself too much credit. You still think the election stolen.

Yeah, once again. More proof than it was than it wasn’t

[LurkerNoMore]

Yeah, once again. More proof than it was than it wasn’t

And yet no one can post that proof backed up by evidence.   

[Agnostic007]

Yeah, once again. More proof than it was than it wasn’t

once again, evidence you are in denial..

[LurkerNoMore]

I’m not stupid enough to put myself in that situation. If I was, I would be in prison

Considering your past drug use, perhaps so.

[Coach is Back!]

Considering your past drug use, perhaps so.

Never been to prison dipshit…

[chaos]

Write what you wish, it isn't changing facts and the facts are not supporting your narrative.

Facts? The facts that Hunter got lenient treatment because of who his daddy is? That doesn't support my narrative?

[LurkerNoMore]

Never been to prison dipshit…

Where did I say you had been to prison dumb ass?

[LurkerNoMore]

Facts? The facts that Hunter got lenient treatment because of who his daddy is? That doesn't support my narrative?

Legal experts > you

I will take their word and opinion over yours.  Your narrative is nothing more than whining.

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Legal experts cast doubt on GOP claims of a ‘sweetheart deal’ in Hunter Biden case
 

Republicans wasted no time Tuesday calling into question the plea agreement Hunter Biden reached with the Justice Department over two tax charges and a felony gun charge, claiming President Joe Biden’s son received special treatment in a long-running probe that had been a cause célèbre on the right.

But tax and criminal law experts stress that, based on publicly available information on the case, the resolution reached does not represent a two-tiered justice system in which Hunter Biden benefited from his name.

The opposite may be true, in fact, especially since he later repaid the taxes he owed.

“If Hunter Biden’s name was John or Jane Doe, no criminal tax prosecution would have ever been contemplated and he would have almost certainly been slotted into a pre-trial diversion program, saving the government the time and expense of a trial,” said Martin Sheil, a former supervisory special agent in the IRS Criminal Investigation.

“So if Hunter has paid all of his taxes, albeit delinquently, arguably Uncle Sam has suffered no harm and justice was done,” Sheil said.

As part of the agreement, Hunter Biden will plead guilty to two tax misdemeanors and struck a deal with prosecutors to resolve a felony gun charge. The DOJ has agreed to recommend a sentence of probation for the two counts of failing to pay taxes in a timely matter for the years 2017 and 2018, according to sources.

Federal district Judge Maryellen Noreika, an appointee of former President Donald Trump, will preside over the case and likely have the final say on any sentence. Noreika, a former patent lawyer in Delaware, had the support of both Democratic senators from the state when she was nominated in 2017.

A hearing is scheduled for July 26.

Hunter Biden owed at least $100,000 in federal taxes for 2017, and at least $100,000 in 2018, but did not pay what was due to the Internal Revenue Service by the deadlines. Part of the argument included that he paid back taxes owed, including penalties.
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