Sound Of Freedom

[Coach is Back!]

Are these desk jockeys and fatasses or just 18 year olds straight out of the basic academy? Have you talked with these fellas and asked them why they attend your training, what they think they are lacking and what they learned after the training?

It’s not my training, not my curriculum and not my facility (that I own). Believe it or not a lot of the LE that comes to train have been cops for years.

[Agnostic007]

Never said on a range. During the week its an indoor kill house, room clearing, 1,2,3 and 4 man CQC, VCQC, etc.have never stated I was a full time instructor as a matter of fact my = exact words were "I help out in training LE" in a private facility. I also mentioned that a lot of the cops that come in for private training do not know basic firearms or tactical terminology. Maybe they use a different terminology at different academies or departments?

The exact words were actually ( I know facts don't matter on this forum but... ) " I train with and help train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics." I think the average person can see the difference between the final statement and the original statement... I won't say Coach lied... I will say he exaggerated pretty extensively. I'll let it go, but I think it's pretty clear what happened here... It's like I say I trained Green Berets in evasion and capture.. when reality was I assisted Green Berets in training in evasion and capture. The first sentence is untrue. The second sentence is accurate. If I were to tell 90% of the population the first sentence they would accept it.. Those in the Green Berets and those in K9 on Okinawa in the 80's would know I was embellishing.

[Agnostic007]

You know what Coach? Let's just agree to disagree. I said I was a Detective, you didn't believe me. You said you train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics. It doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. Let's move on.... there is so much Pizza gate and Biden Admin not paying for a dead soldiers to be transported to Arlington we can discuss.... lets not get bogged down in the details. 

[Coach is Back!]

You know what Coach? Let's just agree to disagree. I said I was a Detective, you didn't believe me. You said you train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics. It doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. Let's move on.... there is so much Pizza gate and Biden Admin not paying for a dead soldiers to be transported to Arlington we can discuss.... lets not get bogged down in the details.

I was just doing my nightly routine and watching videos. This is not just say but goes to my point of lack of training and not reinforcing the basics. I’m not sure if this was a full time SWAT unit or just part time crossovers. But this NG is a hard lesson

[Agnostic007]

Cool video

[Coach is Back!]

Cool video

NG or lack of training?

[Tapeworm]

His name was Larry Poulson.

[LurkerNoMore]

Qoach-47 doesn't train LE for shit.   Ag007 might not call him a liar, but I will.

The part where I train with and help train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics.

[Agnostic007]

His name was Larry Poulson.

He was a cool dude. Got out of the marines in the early 60's. No job. His buddy who drove a truck for Coca Cola suggested he apply for a sales job. No experience. He went in for the interview and left with a leather briefcase, keys to a new station wagon and a $300 check to buy suits. Worked his way up over the years. Got the owner of Carls Jr and his franchises to switch from Pepsi and well as Wendy's. Then he worked the Atlantic City casinos as well as Las Vegas. Had some cool stories about meeting mobsters in New York and Chicago. At the end of the day he retired at 53 as the Regional Manager over sales and a multimillionaire. And just the nicest guy. Made it to 79 healthy, but cancer put an end to his run. I know you didn't ask, but ...

[Dave D]

1. Did Biden say he wanted to take their guns away?
2. If so, then he was in the wrong, but I haven't heard anything that indicates Biden wants to take peoples guns away.
3. Even if the guy was full of Sh*% Bidens response was not professional. Obama, Bush Sr, Clinton, Reagan, maybe Bush Jr wouldnt have lost it. Trump... oh boy... Remember when Trump advocated violence? Was that not a big deal?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rally-violence_n_5bd121b1e4b055bc94882565

I agree Biden was unpresidential in his response. But are we playing on an even field here?

Ag007 I’m behind on this thread, I posted this just as a reminder to my original point that personality wise Trump and Biden aren’t that different. If this was Trump responding people would have gone nuts with the disrespect he showed here.

I don’t care if he did or didn’t say he wanted to take away guns, he responded the same way trump would have. That’s all I’m pointing out.

[Agnostic007]

Ag007 I’m behind on this thread, I posted this just as a reminder to my original point that personality wise Trump and Biden aren’t that different. If this was Trump responding people would have gone nuts with the disrespect he showed here.

I don’t care if he did or didn’t say he wanted to take away guns, he responded the same way trump would have. That’s all I’m pointing out.

Dave, I hear what you are saying. I think in this instance you have a good point. But I have yet to hear Biden say anything negative about another candidates wife. Or that POW's are lesser because they were captured, or made claims about anyone that disagrees with him that "They came to me crying for a job" type stuff. Biden is an old buffoon. I just haven't seen where on a regular basis, he attacks others in the X10 way Trump does.

But to your specific point, I can't disagee

[Kwon]

His name was Larry Poulson.

Wasn't it Bill Brasky?

Heard so many been talking about him

[Gym Rat]

Dave, I hear what you are saying. I think in this instance you have a good point. But I have yet to hear Biden say anything negative about another candidates wife. Or that POW's are lesser because they were captured, or made claims about anyone that disagrees with him that "They came to me crying for a job" type stuff. Biden is an old buffoon. I just haven't seen where on a regular basis, he attacks others in the X10 way Trump does.

But to your specific point, I can't disagee

Biden belittles and yells at handlers in public. When confronted by a question he doesnt like, he snaps and acts like a child "I'll take you outside".
He brags about corruption, etc... Stop falling for "portrayal" you're not that stupid (I hope)...

[Agnostic007]

Biden belittles and yells at handlers in public. When confronted by a question he doesnt like, he snaps and acts like a child "I'll take you outside".
He brags about corruption, etc... Stop falling for "portrayal" you're not that stupid (I hope)...

I'm not defending Biden by any means.. but just on my observation of the two, which one is worse.. gun to head.. I'm picking Trump. Compared to Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Obama, and even BJ Clinton, these two don't match the smoothness. But again, of the two.. Biden in my opinion, is the lesser of two evils. And I get that it isn't a widely held view here and I'm ok with that.

[LurkerNoMore]

nows the time to post the DOJ Instuctor certificate.. If you do, I’ll apologize for doubting you and you can do likewise

This is like a big size 14 boot right up the ass.

"Irrefutable"

[LurkerNoMore]

I was looking at the NRA website and they have a specific Law Enforcement section.

https://le.nra.org/law-enforcement-training/

They mention: "Our instructors consist of active and former police officers from around the country who are highly trained and well-respected professionals in the field."

Also:

They also mention these 2 categories which you also don't seem to fit into:

Coach, what type of NRA training do you have that you can train cops in firearms and tactical situations?

Qoach-47 doesn't fit in any of those categories.
- Not an active LE/PO
- Not a former LE/PO
- Not highly trained
- Not well respected
- Not certified or qualified to train cops

[Coach is Back!]

Qoach-47 doesn't fit in any of those categories.
- Not an active LE/PO
- Not a former LE/PO
- Not highly trained
- Not well respected
- Not certified or qualified to train cops

Still in your head without even being on here. I own you….in every way lmao

[LurkerNoMore]

The only thing you own is that 47th chromosome. 

And a reputation for being completely uncredible.

[Coach is Back!]

The only thing you own is that 47th chromosome. 

And a reputation for being completely uncredible.

You seem butt hurt. Probably from sitting behind that keyboard talking shit

[LurkerNoMore]

You seem butt hurt. Probably from sitting behind that keyboard talking shit

You seem full of shit.  Probably from all the bullshit you post and can't prove.

[The Scott]

You seem full of shit.  Probably from all the bullshit you post and can't prove.

You seem really stoopid.  Oh wait...That's because you are.  Yes I am handicapable. What's your reason excuse? 

[LurkerNoMore]

You seem really stoopid.  Oh wait...That's because you are.  Yes I am handicapable. What's your reason excuse?

TGIF!   Well for the rest of us.  You?  Just another day when the bedpan overflows. 

[Never1AShow]

The Bhank episodes have clued me into the need for a certain precision (apologies for bringing him up).

Is “I help train LE officers” the same as “I train LE officers”?  Not that people don’t try to exaggerate importance of efforts, but what is the least action that qualifies as “help train”?  Do you help cook an omelet if you’re in the kitchen offering suggestions to the chef but never crack an egg?  What if you crack and beat the eggs but never touch the stove?

[joswift]

The Bhank episodes have clued me into the need for a certain precision (apologies for bringing him up).

Is “I help train LE officers” the same as “I train LE officers”?  Not that people don’t try to exaggerate importance of efforts, but what is the least action that qualifies as “help train”?  Do you help cook an omelet if you’re in the kitchen offering suggestions to the chef but never crack an egg?  What if you crack and beat the eggs but never touch the stove?

Getbig is going to end up a forum of pedants.

[Agnostic007]

The Bhank episodes have clued me into the need for a certain precision (apologies for bringing him up).

Is “I help train LE officers” the same as “I train LE officers”?  Not that people don’t try to exaggerate importance of efforts, but what is the least action that qualifies as “help train”?  Do you help cook an omelet if you’re in the kitchen offering suggestions to the chef but never crack an egg?  What if you crack and beat the eggs but never touch the stove?

 Excellent question. I think in these situations context is important. In the exchange, what was Coach trying to convey to the readers? What would the average person (Not that anyone on Getbig is average by any means) think when they read the exchange?