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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2023, 09:18:27 PM »
I laugh at these people. I saw Danny Trejo saying how inflation blah blah blah and how their pay isn’t going up. Fuck you pal, it’s been so high it doesn’t matter how can you compare yourself to regular people who actually work and make nothing. Get fucked Hollywood.

His CNBC interview about the strike was pretty funny though in a chaotic way

Literally mid-interview (0:40) he leaves a voicemail for Gov. Newsom

Trejo (in a demanding shout): Hey Newsom! Yeah...call me!!
Serious Reporter: So you're leaving a message for the Governor there, what's your message to him?
Trejo: To call me!

Then over the next couple of minutes he is rambling on about being more concerned about "regular intelligence" than artificial intelligence, and ad hoc thoughts about gardeners

Didn't sway my mind in relation to the cause one way or the other, but enjoyably random






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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2023, 09:20:40 PM »

Exactly who is going to hire all the drywallers etc.if most people are out jobs?

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« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2023, 09:34:12 PM »
If you work in a office, on a computer, in a store, AI will eventually take your job. It's not whos better. AI will ALWAYS be better in the end. So when the majority of people in this country are out of work because of AI, what then? The world only needs so many drywallers.

Will AI build a better Mr. O?

From the perspective of building a physique that rivals Coleman, no.
BUT from the perspective of prescribing drug protocols yes.

Bodybuilders are safe, guru’s are not.

AI will become the master to the man. The movies showed this reality and we asked for it.


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« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2023, 09:56:55 PM »
His CNBC interview about the strike was pretty funny though in a chaotic way

Literally mid-interview (0:40) he leaves a voicemail for Gov. Newsom

Trejo (in a demanding shout): Hey Newsom! Yeah...call me!!
Serious Reporter: So you're leaving a message for the Governor there, what's your message to him?
Trejo: To call me!

Then over the next couple of minutes he is rambling on about being more concerned about "regular intelligence" than artificial intelligence, and ad hoc thoughts about gardeners

Didn't sway my mind in relation to the cause one way or the other, but enjoyably random





He's about Biden's age, give him a pass for the scrambled brain. There was a building in East LA that had his face on the whole side of it when I visited a few months ago. Pretty funny.

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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2023, 09:57:31 PM »
Will AI build a better Mr. O?


Yes


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« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2023, 10:13:05 PM »
Exactly who is going to hire all the drywallers etc.if most people are out jobs?

If no one then I'll just do something else. Like I said, adapt or perish.

Say everyone yorkie listed has to find a new job. Yeah it'll suck. Versus what? Being Amish and pretending like reality doesn't exist while everyone passes you by? What's the plan exactly where that all works out and doesn't suck way worse before too long?

It's unsurprising to see an industry run by socialist propagandists protesting for government protection. It is suprising to see otherwise levelheaded people go along with it. Sorry your wallet is under threat but I'm sure you can be good at all kinds of other things. Don't panic and remember your principles.

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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2023, 11:24:23 PM »

This is different.



Only because you're personally affected.

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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2023, 12:44:50 AM »


Only because you're personally affected.
No, not like that. I would love to finish out my 10 years, say goodbye to this business and retire. But I am a resourceful person who has always had a knack for finding ways to make money. I already have a backup plan if things go south. I think it's different because I look at AI as the Great Disrupter. Kind of like computers did in the 80's, and the internet in the 90's. A lot of good came out of those. AI on the other hand will have more negative consequences on ALL of our lives than good. Like I said before, let's revisit this conversation in a few years.

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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2023, 01:05:11 AM »
The Danny Trejo's are the 1 percent of actors who make a lot of money. 5 percent are those who make a decent living. The other 95 percent work 2-3 jobs hoping they can join the 5 percent and most likely will never do so. The writers are in the same boat.
It is a terrible career to go into if you want to be successful in life. Luck and kissing up to the right people is more important than anything else.

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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2023, 01:50:25 AM »
No, not like that. I would love to finish out my 10 years, say goodbye to this business and retire. But I am a resourceful person who has always had a knack for finding ways to make money. I already have a backup plan if things go south. I think it's different because I look at AI as the Great Disrupter. Kind of like computers did in the 80's, and the internet in the 90's. A lot of good came out of those. AI on the other hand will have more negative consequences on ALL of our lives than good. Like I said before, let's revisit this conversation in a few years.

I say some disruption is in order given the current state of affairs.

Yeah we can talk again when some of the laptop class can no longer charge unreasonable sums for producing sweet fuck all. Oh the humanity.

Stay out of the business districts. Full of cannibal accountants any day now.

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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2023, 03:55:32 AM »
Will AI build a better Mr. O?

From the perspective of building a physique that rivals Coleman, no.
BUT from the perspective of prescribing drug protocols yes.

Bodybuilders are safe, guru’s are not.

AI will become the master to the man. The movies showed this reality and we asked for it.

How many times have we heard this rap? From farm equipment to technology, it was all gonna eliminate everyone’s job. Meanwhile, the population has increased 4x in the last 100 years and unemployment is at 3%.

It’s about having a dynamic economy. So when one area of work becomes obsolete, there is somewhere else to go.

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« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2023, 05:50:04 AM »
Like someone said, anybody doing some sort of office job could possibly be out of a job. Shit, teachers can be replaced. But we are far off from AI being able to do any labor type job. I guess that’s what we’ll all be doing, manual labor. Until the AI becomes sentient and then enslaves us. That’s where this ultimately goes.

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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2023, 05:54:32 AM »
Adapt or die. If AI replaces them so be it.

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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2023, 05:59:30 AM »
actors just need to copyright their image and sit back and let Hollywwod make AI movies and they get the royalties.

I wish my employers would let me record my work sessions and just play them to the room while I sit at home doing fuck all.

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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2023, 07:02:09 AM »
How many times have we heard this rap? From farm equipment to technology, it was all gonna eliminate everyone’s job. Meanwhile, the population has increased 4x in the last 100 years and unemployment is at 3%.

It’s about having a dynamic economy. So when one area of work becomes obsolete, there is somewhere else to go.

I was at a work conference and people were talking about our positions being replaced by AI, specifically Chat Bots and I said that might be true but if that is the future who do we offer our products to? AI will replace everyone from teachers to pilots to doctors….. and the look on the faces was priceless.

You’re right. Every invention has replaced something and mankind has evolved

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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2023, 07:13:14 AM »
I was at a work conference and people were talking about our positions being replaced by AI, specifically Chat Bots and I said that might be true but if that is the future who do we offer our products to? AI will replace everyone from teachers to pilots to doctors….. and the look on the faces was priceless.

You’re right. Every invention has replaced something and mankind has devolved

we are getting to a turning point in history were all knowledge will be lost
The more we relay on computers and AI to do things then we will lose the ability to do it manually

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« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2023, 08:41:26 AM »
Exactly who is going to hire all the drywallers etc.if most people are out jobs?

Other drywallers will hire drywallers.

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« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2023, 08:48:25 AM »
An unnmaed studio executive recently gaslighted the whole thing, quotted as saying, "The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their homes."

In response to this comment, big tough guy Ron Pearlman made it clear he doesn't take kindly to disrespect, declaring, "We know who said that and where he f*cking lives. You wish that families starve while you’re making 27-f*cking million a year for creating nothing? Be careful, motherf*cker, there's lots of ways you can lose your home."

That’s one angry liberal inciting violence and destruction of property. I’m shocked.

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« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2023, 08:59:09 AM »
An unnmaed studio executive recently gaslighted the whole thing, quotted as saying, "The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their homes."

In response to this comment, big tough guy Ron Pearlman made it clear he doesn't take kindly to disrespect, declaring, "We know who said that and where he f*cking lives. You wish that families starve while you’re making 27-f*cking million a year for creating nothing? Be careful, motherf*cker, there's lots of ways you can lose your home."

Pearlman, a supremacist in his own right, was referring to Bob Iger, CEO of disney.


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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2023, 09:15:09 AM »
Actors and writers, like NFL running backs, are losing their leverage to negotiate.

What actors, other than A-listers, ever had any leverage?

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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2023, 09:49:37 AM »
Exactly who is going to hire all the drywallers etc.if most people are out jobs?

The government will need them when they start making the communes.

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« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2023, 10:02:46 AM »
That’s one angry liberal inciting violence and destruction of property. I’m shocked.
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Unions have to rely on threats of violence. If they didn’t, in this case, all the non union unemployed actors and writers would take their jobs in a heartbeat.

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« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2023, 10:24:41 AM »
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Unions have to rely on threats of violence. If they didn’t, in this case, all the non union unemployed actors and writers would take their jobs in a heartbeat.


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Re: Actors & Writers Strike on display
« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2023, 10:50:10 AM »
actors just need to copyright their image and sit back and let Hollywwod make AI movies and they get the royalties.

I wish my employers would let me record my work sessions and just play them to the room while I sit at home doing fuck all.

Who is going to get The Black Prince Robby Robinson's image rights and would such have any value?

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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2023, 11:05:59 AM »
How many times have we heard this rap? From farm equipment to technology, it was all gonna eliminate everyone’s job. Meanwhile, the population has increased 4x in the last 100 years and unemployment is at 3%.

It’s about having a dynamic economy. So when one area of work becomes obsolete, there is somewhere else to go.

Good paying jobs HAVE been eliminated and outsourced in the neverending search for higher profits.  60-70 years ago, you could support a family of four and own a house, all on a factory jobs income.  No expensive college degree needed.  Nowadays both parents need to work at least one job just to keep a roof over their heads.  Meanwhile the wealthiest Americans are hoarding more wealth than ever.

The end result of AI will be the loss of good-paying jobs and the further concentration of wealth into the 0.1%.  That is, if it ever gets off the ground.  All I’ve seen has been a glorified chatbot.